Why do Labour not get it?

That will have been written by an group that advocates for asylum seekers.

Fangisnotacoward · Today 10:50
Genuine question, because it seems like a simple solution do there must be a reason why its not been done

I don’t think Labour has much desire to stop asylum seekers arriving. It’s not so much that they care about them, it’s more that they know Tory voters dislike unchecked waves of immigration and that’s enough.
My enemy’s enemy is my friend.

It’s quite reassuring that with another 4 years until a general election, people are speaking up more than ever. Voices are louder than ever. People are no longer silenced by ridiculous accusations of being racist.

It’s not still the case. People are granted asylum.

Agree with this.

Ah, i see, thank you. I wondered after i read about the recent stabbing in London, the man arrested was granted asylum after arriving on a lorry.

It’s irrelevant. Just because we have our own horrible criminals doesn’t mean we should have to take in those from other countries as well. One murder or rape by a person who really shouldn’t be here, is one too many.

The problem with this approach is that you would not be able to meet the demand. It’d cause such an increase in movement to wherever the claims are processed and you’d either need to accept very high numbers who meet the criteria, or you’d have to cap it.

If you do the latter under international law people could still arrive to be processed.

Posts on here are obviously going to be coming from people with different experiences. All of which are valid, but I’m pointing out that in my experience, there is very little integration. Maybe some ‘forced’ integration where people from different racial backgrounds are placed in social housing together, but even then often cultural differences are too great for people to mix, whether they live next door to each other or not. It’s a lovely idea to think people are accepting of differences in the way we live and different religions/beliefs, but generally it just doesn’t work I’m afraid.

Im not questioning why people arrive on small boats, that and the reasons why, i understand. Its not a journey I would ever want to have to make.

It was a question as to why the current and previous governments, havent made it illegal for people to claim asylum who arrive via lorry or small boat a blanket ban on claiming asylum. Cant they give safe, reasonable legal ways to claim before arriving?

Reforms one trick pony is "stop the boats". A way to stop the boats, but give people safe and legal means for asylum.

The whole system needs a root and branch over haul .

No, it doesn’t hold more weight. It’s just another one-sided viewpoint.

I believe immigration lawyers work hard. They work hard to keep illegal migrants in the country, even after many failed asylum applications.

They work hard to be paid as much as possible by the British taxpayer.

I would really be interested in seeing how much they cared or how hard they would work, if the migrants had to pay for themselves and legal aid was unavailable. (Which I think it should be).

He entered on a lorry and was granted asylukm in 2020 from Afghanistan.

There are some big problems with asylum and a huge one is some very biased panels and judges.

One barrister at a chambers representing asylum seekers was also the presiding judge on appeals. So quite neutral, then

Another judge ruled that family is not necessarily limited to blood relations in some cultures, thereby ruling that some bloke could bring over 20 friends and family.

Some extremely unpleasant individuals have been represented by Garden Court Chambers, who seem to relish keeping dangerous individuals in this country.

How many other serious assaults or worse took place in the UK yesterday? And what is the nationality of all those involved in those crimes?

This is 100% not written by a charity. It is definitely not saying leftist do-gooder. This is certainly the words of all illegal migrants. I believe it completely.

Yes it is appalling it was a triple stabbing and the dog walker is dead...beyond horrific.

If the majority are granted asylum we need to change the asslyum rules.

Surely as a nation we went to provide sanctuary for the truly vulnerable ?

I'm sorry but huge great strapping men fleeing war and leaving women and children are not my top priority .

We should be allowed to chose who we take and not have it foisted upon us.

Apologises if it's not true but apparently people are going back to Afghanistan for holidays.

In our country we don't understand many things; we have no idea how desperate many people are and the terrible restrictive regimes they lived under and we don't understand networks ,allegiances , culture , reference points that are a million light years away from our own that we can't assimilate or change.

I mean - it’s labour. I’m sure they’ll fuck it up somehow but don’t worry - we will pay for it with increase of tax - that is all Labour know how to do properly. Hooray! In the words of someone on Mumsnet who told me ‘give Labour a chance - they’ll change the UK’ - hopefully you still feel that way.

Yep I think you’re right there, Labour are processing asylum claims but other parts might be continuing.

Further googling and it seems bits of it are and bits aren't!

Apologies if it's been mentioned but a dog walker and school boy where stabbed yesterday in uxbridge by an afghani national .

100%, I wasn't supposed to Google them and see who they are.

Crib sheets and sob stories at the ready you are correct, pull the other one people have had enough.

Same I didn't bother reading beyond the first page as it is so badly written 😆

I don’t think this is in place now.

The Illegal Migration Act changes the law so that those who arrive in the UK illegally will not be able to stay here and will instead be detained and then promptly removed, either to their home country or a safe third country.

www.gov.uk/government/collections/illegal-migration-bill