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Why do Labour not get it?

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Dacatspjs · 28/10/2025 12:30

It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

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Julen7 · 29/10/2025 12:59

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 29/10/2025 12:48

I don’t think it was ever answered what the ‘robust checks’ are that are done to asylum seekers once they get into the country. A PP talked about it and I’ve heard a government minister mention them but she then could t tell the interviewer what it entailed. If someone is undocumented then what checks can they do?

Think the checks a bit hush hush - wonder why.

OctaveoOctober · 29/10/2025 12:56

@Winter2020 I agree . People here have plenty of their own problems and strains on life to deal with without the added stress of many men suddenly in the area hanging around .

We have a hotel in our vicinity and as far as I'm aware we have not had any trouble or problems with men hanging around. It's out of the town bit we don't have issues on sm .
Which is obviously very good /lucky.

CorneliaCupp · 29/10/2025 12:53

KrystalStubbs · 29/10/2025 12:35

@CorneliaCupp Do you ever read the news?
I despair at your faux naivety.

Yep, I do. Maybe use facts to dispute my point rather than suggesting I'm uninformed?

BeachLife2 · 29/10/2025 12:51

Tbh I’m not convinced the boat situation will be solved until we have a policy that no one who comes illegally will be allowed to stay here.

There should be controlled legal routes for the most vulnerable, but we shouldn’t be prioritising people who pay thousands to smugglers and can travel across continents.

People will continue to try as long as there’s a good chance they will be able to remain in the U.K.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 29/10/2025 12:48

I don’t think it was ever answered what the ‘robust checks’ are that are done to asylum seekers once they get into the country. A PP talked about it and I’ve heard a government minister mention them but she then could t tell the interviewer what it entailed. If someone is undocumented then what checks can they do?

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 29/10/2025 12:43

OctaveoOctober · 29/10/2025 11:28

The whole system needs a root and branch over haul .

It absolutely should

EasternStandard · 29/10/2025 12:41

jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple · 29/10/2025 12:23

There should be NO reason at all that they should be allowed to roam freely ..they are NOT British citizens they should be confined until all checks are done and deported there and then or granted asylum. Freedom is not automatic as they arrived illegally in the first place.

They will be, hence the concerns being raised by people close by.

Heck even on mn there isn’t anyone who has said yes I’m ok with the barracks near to me.

No one wants this in their own area, Labour will struggle even more.

Btw checks aren’t always definitive, the recent sad death of the dog walker was after checks.

KrystalStubbs · 29/10/2025 12:35

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 12:59

What extra comforts are you thinking of?
You do realise that we are talking about traumatized people fleeing for their lives, not criminals?

@CorneliaCupp Do you ever read the news?
I despair at your faux naivety.

OctaveoOctober · 29/10/2025 12:35

@jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple quite but if we are having to put them up in hotels and barracks /taking ages to process them ,I'd also suggest we are taking too many in the first place.

So how do we reduce numbers

Winter2020 · 29/10/2025 12:33

ReginaPhalange1989 · 28/10/2025 13:57

I think that the news has done an incredible job on the "stop the boats" campaign, distracting people from actual issues with the UK economy.

The spend on Migrants is minimal in the grand scheme of the budget. Last year the cost was £2.8 billion, compared health £193.3 billion, education £89.2 billion and defence £37.6 billion.

I feel so unbelievably sorry for anybody who is desperate enough to cross the English channel on a dingy. The rhetoric that they're all living it up in hotels is so unbelievably inaccurate.

Also, nobody seems to realise the increase in the amount of boats arriving is directly related to Brexit. So not only did Farage LIE to the entire country during the Brexit campaign about the benefits of leaving the EU, all that happened was that things got much much worse, while simultaneously using the sh!t storm as fodder for his new Reform Campaign.

I feel desperately sorry for people murdered/raped and having their lives made worse by people that shouldn't be here.

Did Brexit cause the boats arriving in Greece too?

JHound · 29/10/2025 12:28

Livelovebehappy · 29/10/2025 11:30

Posts on here are obviously going to be coming from people with different experiences. All of which are valid, but I’m pointing out that in my experience, there is very little integration. Maybe some ‘forced’ integration where people from different racial backgrounds are placed in social housing together, but even then often cultural differences are too great for people to mix, whether they live next door to each other or not. It’s a lovely idea to think people are accepting of differences in the way we live and different religions/beliefs, but generally it just doesn’t work I’m afraid.

It doesn’t work for YOU in your experience.

Mine is the exact opposite.

You see living in diverse neighbourhoods as being “forced” to do so. Others seek it out deliberately.

Winter2020 · 29/10/2025 12:25

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:35

Their method of getting to the country may be unlawful, but once they step foot on British soil and claim asylum the are not committing any crime. If the government put more.money into speeding up the asylum process then none of this would be an issue!

It would be a huge issue as the vast majority will stay.

Government figures. 4% of people arriving on a small boat have been returned.

An amount that means we might as well not bother with a process at all. Give them a grand as they get off the boat and bid them good luck and save the whole expensive charade.

The only worthwhile immigration policy is stopping them coming (Rwanda etc) as once they are here they are going no where and all the "processing" us just paying people to shuffle papers for months or years before rubber stamping them- a complete waste of time and money.

Why do Labour not get it?
Why do Labour not get it?
PandoraSocks · 29/10/2025 12:25

Winter2020 · 29/10/2025 12:16

One man who shouldn't have been in our country.

Rhiannon Whyte's family, who made that statement, have made it clear they don't want her murder to be used to stir up anti-immigration sentiment. I think we should respect that.

jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple · 29/10/2025 12:23

There should be NO reason at all that they should be allowed to roam freely ..they are NOT British citizens they should be confined until all checks are done and deported there and then or granted asylum. Freedom is not automatic as they arrived illegally in the first place.

Worralorra · 29/10/2025 12:20

Whatifitallgoesright · 28/10/2025 12:39

I thought the point of army barracks was so they could be securely contained. I assume they will be locked in there and not have minibuses laid on to deposit them at the nearest town to wander round at will all day.

I would hope that containment is part of the solution, but I doubt it - once the human rights lawyers get involved it will be just like the failed ship solution. It’s a good idea though - the hotels chuck them out on the street after breakfast and they’ve nowhere to go at the moment, hence the antisocial behaviour.
Labour need to think through a solution that will keep them contained while teaching them about our language, law and culture and not just dump them with no rules for what they should do while they are preparing themselves for their immigration assessments…

marshmallowmix · 29/10/2025 12:18

If they won’t be held in the barracks then it’s a very scary prospect for the locals and their communities.

A Crowborough resident was interviewed yesterday an elderly man and he was very vocal that it is tiny village and the residents are scared stiff.

Winter2020 · 29/10/2025 12:16

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:31

"Many have tried to imply this is about immigration, but these are the choices of one man, not an ethnic group"

Do you agree?

One man who shouldn't have been in our country.

LizzieW1969 · 29/10/2025 12:14

The letter could also have been written by the Refugee Council or another charity supporting refugees (of which there are plenty).

Winter2020 · 29/10/2025 12:12

TheDenimPoet · 28/10/2025 13:30

Surely safety, particularly when you consider the countries these people are coming from, is THE greatest incentive? I don't think any of these people are making dangerous journeys for a daily breakfast buffet.

What about the safety of the British people "when you are considering the countries these people are coming from"?

LizzieW1969 · 29/10/2025 12:11

24karatPalamino · 29/10/2025 11:27

No, it doesn’t hold more weight. It’s just another one-sided viewpoint.

I believe immigration lawyers work hard. They work hard to keep illegal migrants in the country, even after many failed asylum applications.

They work hard to be paid as much as possible by the British taxpayer.

I would really be interested in seeing how much they cared or how hard they would work, if the migrants had to pay for themselves and legal aid was unavailable. (Which I think it should be).

The firm I worked for took on private work, too, so I have no doubt they would have worked equally hard if there had been no legal aid involved.

Obviously I can only speak for the firm I worked for, and that was over 20 years ago. So I have no recent experience of immigration firms.

But I have more recently worked for a charity that helps women asylum seekers from Afghanistan and Iran, so I know they don’t have it easy.

EasternStandard · 29/10/2025 12:09

jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple · 29/10/2025 12:08

I think, and I am NO Labour supporter that the Barracks thing is excellent. If they are processed there and not allowed into general society until we know who they are then it can only be good. As a safety issue alone its worth every penny. We need to reclaim our streets and stop being a third world trough for all and sundry.

People won’t be held there, they are free to come and go into the town or area.

jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple · 29/10/2025 12:08

I think, and I am NO Labour supporter that the Barracks thing is excellent. If they are processed there and not allowed into general society until we know who they are then it can only be good. As a safety issue alone its worth every penny. We need to reclaim our streets and stop being a third world trough for all and sundry.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/10/2025 12:06

DuncinToffee · 29/10/2025 09:55

You are very welcome Flowers

Posters can make their own minds up about you and you reaction to the letters.

Oh I think posters are making their own minds up about you and putting out biased information.

Julen7 · 29/10/2025 12:01

38thparallel · 29/10/2025 11:48

Fangisnotacoward · Today 10:50
Genuine question, because it seems like a simple solution do there must be a reason why its not been done

I don’t think Labour has much desire to stop asylum seekers arriving. It’s not so much that they care about them, it’s more that they know Tory voters dislike unchecked waves of immigration and that’s enough.
My enemy’s enemy is my friend.

Well it’s one of the biggest reasons they are going to lose the next GE so they ought to care a bit.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/10/2025 11:57

marshmallowmix · 29/10/2025 08:44

That is just hilarious! @DuncinToffee

Yeah right the concerned asylum seekers wrote that did they ….me thinks not!!

Put out by the Labour council …it’s so obvious! It has though given me a much needed laugh 😆.

I could knock something up like that in Word and say it’s asylum seekers writing it …utter tosh! Just more spin as people are sick to the back teeth of it.

One of those Pro Asylum groups/Labour council wrote that piece they are trying to defend the indefensible 😣.

Edited

Ha just read your post and already thought exactly the same written by a pro asylum group/labour council.