The Rest is Entertainment podcast

I think the interrupting and mansplaining have got MUCH worse. When the podcast first started,I remember saying to DH that it was a really enjoyable listen because they gave each other space to talk and weren't trying to out-funny each other

I do like them both and find them extremely knowledgeable and funny, but I agree that it's become a stressful listen. Agree about the Gregg Wallace minimising from Richard and the inexplicable Glenn Powell madness from Marina. I also find it annoying that they both claim to have seen every new film and TV series, and listened to every new album - how can they possibly have the time?!

I stopped listening because I started to find them a bit irritating. The intro music is also really jarring on my ears (stupid reason but I listen in bed) and the ads annoy me.

I stopped listening to it as I had got fed up of his constant monologues, how everyone in the entertainment industry is so wonderful blah blah blah.

I didn’t have anything new to listen to so I thought I’d give this podcast another go. He’s even worse, I had to stop listening to the boyfriend section it made me so irritated.

I know, I was listening thinking where will Marina place Louis Partridge in her top 10 UK celebrity boyfriends as I had just finished watching House of Guinness and Richard interrupted yet again just to say he’d never heard of Louis Partridge ?!?

I do find Richard Osman interesting and he knows a huge amount about tv and the industry but between the interrupting and never saying anything controversial I’m getting a bit fed up with him.

If you look at any of the comments on eg Spotify, they all say what we’re saying. It’s astounding nobody is managing him, and that he’s so thick-skulled as to not have changed his behaviour. For a man who is utterly determined to avoid controversy, never offer a real opinion, fence-sit, and say how ‘brilliant’ everything and everyone is, he’s remarkably tone-deaf regarding how he himself comes across.

Yes, @NameinVaneits the celebrity boyfriends episode I’m thinking of !

The other day he completely knocked her off her train of thought with incessant attempts at jokes. It was really rude. YANBU he needs to stop it.

I remember, years ago, watching and conversation between him and Frankie Boyle ( I won't even get into what I think about him) where Frankie was arguing for more interesting, challenging TV, and Richard having none of it, fighting the corner or lowest common denominator rash because it would make the most money. Really put me off him, not that I particularly enjoyed him anyway!

Once you notice it you can never un-notice it I agree!

I find Marina very articulate and interesting, if a bit jaded and cynical. Richard I'm afraid I find a bit dull

@BoredZelda I think that was the episode that put me off listening for a while. He said something about pulling someone up about inappropriate behaviour & modelled the conversation, in which he completely minimised it. Pissed me off so much, I don't know how he can't see that makes him part of the problem.

I've also noticed that Dominic from TRIH tends to minimise the female experience from sexual predators - guessed long before I learned that he doesn't have a daughter. Easy to tell that Tom H does.

I do love how Marina is rubbish at hiding her real feelings for celebs - you can always tell exactly what she thinks even when she's not being explicit.

Oh I love the podcast - I like their back-and-forth, I like the way it gallops off randomly in different directions, the endless sidebars.

I agree Richard can sometimes seem a little self-satisfied but I think they work well together and I adore Marina - the combination of being incredibly intelligent and witty but also just constantly a bit chaotic.

I listened to this episode this morning and thought exactly this. It's the first time I've noticed it but now I have, I can imagine I'll be far more aware of it - and annoyed by it - in future.

It was very annoying as he was ruining the flow of her bit, just to make fairly unfunny comments.

That being said, I generally love the podcast and I think the 2 of them bounce well off each other for the most part.

I think of Colin Powell.

@Colinfromaccounts Anita Anand is co-host on the Empire podcast. She and William Dalrymple work well together. My only criticism has been when they had William Dalrymple’s son on to talk about Partition when I’m sure there are far better qualified people who could have done it.

I wonder why Richard wants this gig. He already does TV and book writing, that must take up so much time. These podcasts bring in a lot of money but he must have made millions already.

also, is Marina the only woman on Goalhanger’s podcast roster? Sports, history, politics all male hosts, presumably light entertainment was the one arena they could find room for a woman host in 🙄

I think part of the problem is that Marina (as much as I love her as a print journalist) is a poor broadcaster. Her commentary is all over the place - she starts thoughts and doesn't finish them, forgets to give any context and just generally babbles. A lot of Richard interrupting is him trying to structure her stream of consciousness, although I agree he also loves an opportunity to dominate a topic. I really liked this podcast to begin with but am gradually going off it.

He did say women in tv were all very tough....... Its so disappointing when smart, funny men show themselves up like this. I have a group of male friends from a hobby who are all quite nice, all see themselves as quite liberal and progressive - and who all pull shit like this regularly. It is like they just cannot see what they are doing at all.

Christ he sounds dull.

I think he thinks he’s one of the good guys, but when I listened to the episode about Greg whatshisname from Masterchef, he was saying all the “correct” things about him, but he minimised what he had done quite a bit and seemed to be making excuses for him. I suspect if you got him in a quiet corner he would think it was all fuss about nothing.

He pretends to be self deprecating but he also never admits he is wrong.

Marina is also slightly obsessed with Guy Ritchie who she hates, or at least hates his work .

He's probably a " male feminist".

I used to like Richard but this podcast has made me aware that he’s a bloviating cynic.

And he says ‘by and large’ far too often.

Yuk.

I suspect she talks fast for the same reason i do: a combination of boarding school and then working in a male dominated environment. You have to get your words out fast or not at all.

but he absolutely views himself as one of the good guys.

Haha this is perfectly damning and such a good observation.