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Breaking the NHS picket line

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helpidkwhattodopls · 28/10/2025 08:40

I work in the NHS, non-clinical. Obviously there are junior doctor strikes coming up and I’m fully in support of them, but I have no choice but to go to work during the strikes. I can’t afford to take time off.

Our manager has given us a warning and said that we shouldn’t be taking the main route into the hospital during the strikes as apparently the striking staff can be very angry at you for breaking the picket. But I have no choice, I don’t drive into work so I have to go this way.

AIBU to ask what the hell I should do?????

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80smonster · 28/10/2025 14:09

Call in sick - then you are supporting the strikers and not breaking the picket line.

PinkDaffodil2 · 28/10/2025 13:24

Unless you’re a resident (junior) doctor you cannot and should not strike. If you want to show your support for the doctors (which is greatly appreciated and not something they would take for granted) please come and say hi to the picket on the way to or from work, they’ll probably have a sticker or badge you could wear if you like to indicate your support.
Your manager is talking absolute rubbish - please let other colleagues know that nobody else is expected to strike and I’ve never heard of unpleasantness on any of the pickets (I was around in the 2016 strikes too).
There’s also an understanding that plenty of our doctor colleagues need to work for reasons we might not be privy to - this isn’t the miners strikes - there’s no shouting at people crossing a line!

AlohaRose · 28/10/2025 13:22

27pilates · 28/10/2025 10:36

Are you very young OP? Or just very naive 🤦‍♀️

This.

Seriously, your manager should be reported for spreading this kind of misinformation. It’s not the 80s with the miners’ strikes and lines of police holding back the picketers!

I’m another one who doesn’t understand why you can’t use another entrance to the hospital. Either the bus you use drives straight onto the hospital grounds in which case it will pass by the strikers (And believe me, no one will be throwing eggs!) or you get off the bus at the stop outside of the hospital and walk through a different entrance or the car park. It doesn’t seem like rocket science.

araiwa · 28/10/2025 13:16

GagMeWithASpoon · 28/10/2025 09:05

Either your manager is talking rubbish , or you are.

Not empty quoting

NoctuaAthene · 28/10/2025 13:10

Crunchymum · 28/10/2025 12:39

I know I am massively missing the point but how can the other entrances to the same hospital be an hours walk away?

I think what the OP might be saying is that on her normal bus route, due to the relative location of the picket and the hospital entrance, she would already be 'crossing the picket' on the bus or by getting off at the bus stop that will drop her into the middle of the protest - I think she's imagining a scene like this with rioters surrounding the strike breakers bus. And she's saying that is the only bus route that goes within 3 miles of the hospital.

But evidently if that is the case OP (or her manager) are likely to be wildly disappointed by the extremely tame and undramatic nature of resident doctor picking! There weren't even any placards or loudspeakers the last time at our trust, just some fairly sad leafleters...

Breaking the NHS picket line
Destiny123 · 28/10/2025 13:07

Noone cares. I've been on strike earlier in training but now as st7 with a few months left of training I need my clinical days to get signed off so have worked, I'm not sacrificing 16yrs of work/my career for the pickets, quite a few were working and felt similar. Most hospitals don't even have pickets as they're often centralised now

PinkyFlamingo · 28/10/2025 12:59

This isn't right, you aren't on strike so it's not your picket line!

NoctuaAthene · 28/10/2025 12:59

None of this makes sense - 'breaking the picket' really isn't a thing with NHS staff. As a non clinical member of staff you literally legally cannot be on strike with the doctors as it is only doctors/BMA members striking. All other staff members are fully expected (including by the BMA) to go to work as normal. Nothing to do with whether or not you can afford a day off.

And then are very strict rules about picketing which are enforced by the BMA themselves as well as by employers. They limit the numbers of people allowed on the picket at any one time and picketers are absolutely not allowed to hassle or block or intimidate people walking into the building, not even other doctors who theoretically are 'strike breaking' never mind other staff members or patients just going about their business.

But even assuming you don't want to walk past the picket, the thing about the bus makes no sense - just get off the bus at the normal stop and then walk through the car park or around the hospital building to the back/side entrance? Unless there are accessibility issues stopping you doing that? Even if your manager is right about the intimidating picket by the main entrance they aren't going to monitor who is getting off the bus or chase people around the car park trying to stop anyone getting into th building Confused

NeverDropYourMooncup · 28/10/2025 12:58

It's a load of bollocks.

You're in a different union (hopefully you're in a union) and it's illegal to take secondary action in any case.

The striking staff know that, their union rep knows that, anybody with half an ounce of knowledge of trade union law knows that. You can walk straight through the middle of them if you so wish (or need to), say hello, take exactly the same route into work and across the largest hospital complex on the planet going by the time you reckon it takes to get across it as you normally would and nobody will notice or give a monkey's that you're doing it because you aren't crossing a picket line or breaking a strike in the slightest. Because it's not your union, it's not your grievance, it's not your perfectly legal industrial action, it's theirs.

So either your manager is talking utter shite to create a feeling of hostility towards the resident doctors - or you are.

Hankunamatata · 28/10/2025 12:48

Iv always gone into work as iv not been a profeasion that strikes. Tbh they have never blocked the entrance. They are off to one side. Never rude and never nasty to anyone

I usually go over and give them a packet of biscuits on the way in

Nightingaille · 28/10/2025 12:46

I worked as a nurse for the NHS for over 40 years and I have never seen unpleasant behaviour towards staff or public on any picket line.

Crunchymum · 28/10/2025 12:39

helpidkwhattodopls · 28/10/2025 08:45

the only other ways in aren’t on public transport routes - so I’d have to walk over an hour to get to them

I know I am massively missing the point but how can the other entrances to the same hospital be an hours walk away?

AtomicPumpkin · 28/10/2025 12:32

I don't see how anyone can work in the NHS if they can't cope with the possibility that someone might get angry.

nocoolnamesleft · 28/10/2025 12:17

This sounds like a pile of bollocks from your manager.

Gall10 · 28/10/2025 12:15

helpidkwhattodopls · 28/10/2025 08:45

the only other ways in aren’t on public transport routes - so I’d have to walk over an hour to get to them

Walking for an hour you could easily cover 3 miles….must be a VERY big hospital site!

Lasecretaire · 28/10/2025 12:11

Um. Sounds like you don't want to go to work!! As others - I have been a junior and a consultant and have both been on strike and crossed picket lines. In actual fact we have checked who is striking when to plan for cover. (Whole other story here of them saving on wages and yet little impact on care. oh yes, staff goodwill, what keeps it going).
You are being precious. No one is going to get angry or violent.

BIossomtoes · 28/10/2025 12:10

How big is this hospital that it would take an hour to reach another entrance?

Exactly. We regularly attend one of the UK’s biggest hospitals. You could walk round the entire site in half an hour.

latetothefisting · 28/10/2025 12:07

NerrSnerr · 28/10/2025 11:57

But when you get off the bus why can’t you walk round to one of the other entrances? Why will that take hours? That’s what doesn’t make sense?

This! Your hospital doesn't sound like any one I've ever been to if you can't walk through one department to get to another and there's only one entrance/exit to the entire building!

Say the doctors are striking outside the main entrance by A&E which is where the bus drops you off and where you would usually enter and then walk along a few corridors to get to paediatrics in a different wing/building, instead just walk alongside the outside of the building/through the car park or wherever and enter by a different door.

Also doctors absolutely won't (or shouldn't be!) shouting at patients!

Dacatspjs · 28/10/2025 12:05

JuliesName · 28/10/2025 11:57

Just seems like your 'manager' is anti-strike and trying to stir up anger against those striking...

That's funny, i thought pro-strike and trying to strong arm others into joining.

Pippa12 · 28/10/2025 12:00

This is pure rubbish and your manager wants reporting for these comments!

Im a nurse. I didn’t strike because I felt (personally) it was morally wrong as I work in a specialist area, second time I couldn’t afford it.

Not once was there bad feeling. Never ever would the staff be disrespectful to the patients over it.

Do not give this another thought.

JuliesName · 28/10/2025 11:57

Just seems like your 'manager' is anti-strike and trying to stir up anger against those striking...

NerrSnerr · 28/10/2025 11:57

helpidkwhattodopls · 28/10/2025 11:53

It’s not the entrances but where the bus drops you.

But when you get off the bus why can’t you walk round to one of the other entrances? Why will that take hours? That’s what doesn’t make sense?

PurpleCyclamen · 28/10/2025 11:56

Nonsense.

helpidkwhattodopls · 28/10/2025 11:53

LakieLady · 28/10/2025 11:25

Bigger than my town of 20k plus people, by the sound of it.

I think average walking speed is approx 3mph. I live right one on side and before I was old and decrepit I could walk the 2.2 miles to the far side of town in 40 minutes.

If it takes an hour, I'd say that the hospital site must be at least 3-3.5 miles across the shortest distance between two entrances.

It’s not the entrances but where the bus drops you.

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Greybeardy · 28/10/2025 11:47

I'm going to have a guess that your manager is a bit anti-doctor and is just trying to make them out to be bullies as they are talking inflammatory nonsense. If you're not a resident doctor then you are not striking and going to work as planned is completely normal. Resident doctors have for the most part actually been grateful for the work of other staff in ensuring that safe care has continued during strikes. If you really don't want to use the front door then just pick one of the others.