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LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 11:40

Wondering if I should suck it up...
I have a friend of 20 years and everything she does at the moment is annoying me. I have tried to pinpoint the top things that have annoyed me recently:

  1. I used to pick up her son from school once a week (I have 2 kids in the same school and I work part-time, she works full time). I did this for 2 school years. I fed him dinner, entertained him and occasionally took him and my 2 kids out for ice cream or a milkshake, I even bought him a book from the book fair as it was there on a day I was picking him up and I didn't want him to be left out. It was hard work when the weather was bad, walking the mile home in the rain up a big hill while feeding the 3 of them snacks but I did it and didn't complain. She'd always say thank you but I feel like she never fully appreciated the time and effort. If I met up with her, she'd never offer to pay the parking or occasionally buy me a coffee as an acknowledgement of me being out of pocket looking after her son, it was always split down the middle.
  2. For her 40th, I organised a fun thing for us to do with some friends, spent hours making her a photo book and get her a necklace with a personalised inscription. I went a bit OTT as it's a big birthday. For my 40th she admitted she shouted to her husband 5 mins before leaving to meet me for a drink "what can I get for her 40th?" and he found gig tickets online (for a tenner), bought them and printed them out. No time spent, no thought, just rushed.
  3. She's had a lot of heartache over the years trying for a second baby. I always check in, I took an afternoon off work to walk around town with her one day when she was struggling mentally, when she had a miscarriage I was checking in daily, ringing, texting, coming over to be a shoulder to cry on. When my uncle died recently I told her I left work early as I couldn't stop crying. She sent a generic "Sorry to hear that, let me know if there's anything I can do" text and that was it. I then sent a photo from the funeral as it was abroad and done very differently to here and I just got a heart emoji back. No checking in, Nothing.
  4. There are other small things but I'm not going to list everything.

I have found that I'm distancing myself from her recently and I feel bad about it as she's about to start IVF and will likely need me (and more childcare) over the next year. Should I suck it up for now and be there for her? She has a few other friends but no close family other that hubbie. It just feels so false.

What would you do? Am I being unreasonable (and selfish!)?

OP posts:
Papayatropics · 27/10/2025 13:08

StokePotteries · 27/10/2025 11:48

She's used you for years. Don't feel guilty. And stop doing things for other people that make you feel undervalued. You have to place value on your own time and efforts. If you don't, others take advantage.

This.

boymamahere · 27/10/2025 13:07

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:52

I worry she'd think I'm being a rubbish friend I guess. Then I'd have guilt that I'm here with my easily conceived 2 children and incredible childcare support in the form of very available and caring grandparents while she's having to pay £15k for IVF for a second child with no family support around her

You are too invested in her life and you’ve unhealthily attached yourself to believe you need to support her more than you should do. It’s not healthy to feel like you have to be your friends support system.

I also mean this with the nicest intentions to your friend but if she can’t afford childcare whilst she’s paying for IVF for a second child then she needs to have a think about that with DH. It’s not for you to step in and offer that to her.

just because you think you’ve had it easier than your friend doesn’t mean you need to step up and go way over and beyond. You have grandparents help that that’s great, but it’s a bit unhealthy for you to try and offer childcare as if you are a replacement for that for her.

It’s okay to fill grateful or even guilt when your friend is struggling with something that happened easily for you. Unfortunately, someone is always gonna have it better or worse off than others and you will also go through hardships in your life.

You’re not responsible for her. Seriously.

Cheeseontoastghost · 27/10/2025 13:01

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:52

I worry she'd think I'm being a rubbish friend I guess. Then I'd have guilt that I'm here with my easily conceived 2 children and incredible childcare support in the form of very available and caring grandparents while she's having to pay £15k for IVF for a second child with no family support around her

Her life is hers to sort out and live, not yours

Itiswhysofew · 27/10/2025 12:59

A 20 year friendship generally falls into a rhythm. You are a giver, she's a taker but will give when asked. Stop being so generous now, only because of how she is. If you had a friend similar in character to you, things would be different.

She's hinting at you giving your time again to her during her IVF treatment. How are you going to deal with that? Maybe tell her that she'll have to do what most others would have to and that's take her child with her or arrange alternative childcare. Not easy, but you're time is not hers to have and it's a huge responsibility taking care of someone else's child.

tragichero · 27/10/2025 12:54

One thing a counsellor once told, that sounds really really obvious but can be difficult to accept, is that other people are not me, and i will always be upset and disappointed if I expect them to behave as if they were.

It might be good to think about that now, OP.

Your friend is a different person to you, with different strengths and weaknesses. You sound like a very kind and generous person, with your time, money and resources. It sounds like this friend is not equally as generous, giving and thoughtful.

But that doesn't make her a bad person necessarily, or even a bad friend.

She sounds quite honest (I kind of admire her for being honest about the birthday gift, really - many people would have lied). Maybe she isn't very good at knowing what to say in difficult situations, but she isn't ignoring you, she did ask if you needed anything following your sad loss. Maybe she thought you would say if you wanted her to check in/wanted to talk about it.

I had to have a day off work recently as my dad (already seriously ill) collapsed in the night, and it looked like he was on the way out. I didn't hear anything from someone who is a good friend, that I work with. I texted her assuming nobody had told her what had happened, but she said she knew and that was the reason she HADN'T text me - she didn't want to intrude when I was clearly going through a difficult time. But I know from experience with this friend that, if I told her I needed to meet up for a chat, she would be there......

The childcare thing is an awkward one - on the surface it seems like she has been taking the piss, but have you ever said anything to her to imply it makes your life harder in any way? When my DD was little I had a reciprocal arrangement with her friend's mom and we both did an afternoon's childcare a week for the other, and I actually found it much easier than having to entertain DD on her own at that age, so I positively liked doing it..... And she may genuinely not have thought about the expense.

If you are happy to keep doing it (and you are not obliged to) , I think you should say, money is a bit tight at the moment, is there any way you could give me £10 a week (or whatever you think is fair) for his drinks and snacks after school? If she isn't happy with that, she will need to look elsewhere.

If you don't want to do it any more, just say so.

Maybe you don't want to be friends with her at all any more, and that's fine too. People change and friendships run their course. She will never behave exactly as you would like her to, because that's not who she is. But I see no evidence that she doesn't actually like and care about you - I think she is just perhaps a bit thoughtless/self absorbed even.

Depends whether her good points outweigh the bad for you at this point.

If you do want to end the friendship, I think the kindest thing would be a slow fade. It avoids unnecessary conflict, especially when both of you have lots going on in your life at the moment. Neither of you need the stress of a dramatic fall out!

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:52

FajitaNightCap · 27/10/2025 12:46

I’d start by thinking about why you over-give. Do you find it difficult to say no? Why? What do you think would happen if your friend said ‘Can you have X for a week after school when I’m away?’ and you said ‘Sorry, Y, I can’t. You’ll have to make other arrangements’? What, in your mind, does she say then? Are you imagining hostility? Would that be a problem? If so, is this really a friendship that is healthy for you, if it only functions on the basis of you never saying no?

Are you trading services for friendship?

I worry she'd think I'm being a rubbish friend I guess. Then I'd have guilt that I'm here with my easily conceived 2 children and incredible childcare support in the form of very available and caring grandparents while she's having to pay £15k for IVF for a second child with no family support around her

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Fiftyandme · 27/10/2025 12:48

She’s hardly been a friend to you

FajitaNightCap · 27/10/2025 12:46

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:41

What a very thought provoking reply, thank you for this. Yes I do struggle to say no and I end up taking on far too much.

These replies have been very eye-opening. Yes I do take on too much and go OTT on trying to be the best friend I can be and feel resentful when I don't get the same back. Time to stop giving 200%. Not sure how yet though 😂

I’d start by thinking about why you over-give. Do you find it difficult to say no? Why? What do you think would happen if your friend said ‘Can you have X for a week after school when I’m away?’ and you said ‘Sorry, Y, I can’t. You’ll have to make other arrangements’? What, in your mind, does she say then? Are you imagining hostility? Would that be a problem? If so, is this really a friendship that is healthy for you, if it only functions on the basis of you never saying no?

Are you trading services for friendship?

boymamahere · 27/10/2025 12:45

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:41

What a very thought provoking reply, thank you for this. Yes I do struggle to say no and I end up taking on far too much.

These replies have been very eye-opening. Yes I do take on too much and go OTT on trying to be the best friend I can be and feel resentful when I don't get the same back. Time to stop giving 200%. Not sure how yet though 😂

Stop being so available for others, if your friend calls or messages don’t reply straight away. If you are busy and can’t visit your friend who needs you then say “I’m sorry, I can’t do tonight but I’m free (insert date that’s convenient for you)

Start saying no to childcare, it’s clear you don’t want to do it, just say you’ve got things going on in your own life and unfortunately you can’t right now.

Support your friend during her IVF but you don’t need to do daily check ins, calls, messages.

You aren’t responsible for your friends life xx I know that’s hard when you are overly caring I’ve been there myself it’s been a long journey but focus on you!!

CottonDeTulear · 27/10/2025 12:44

Ditch her and tell her why.

boymamahere · 27/10/2025 12:42

FajitaNightCap · 27/10/2025 12:32

I think that’s a really important point, @boymamahere — a lot of the time on threads like this, the person complaining has been massively over-giving, beyond their own time/financial/emotional resources, and is then seething with suppressed resentment that the other person doesn’t match their efforts. People need to ask themselves what they can give in terms of support etc, and not go beyond that.

For instance, the OP is already envisaging being expected to do more childcare because of her friend’s IVF because of the working patterns of the fruend’s DH and other friends, but she hasn’t been asked, and she has the choice to say no.

What she should definitely not do is agree resentfully to do more childcare, and then get furious when her friend doesn’t throw her a big 50th birthday party or give her a lavish present to ‘repay’ her. Never do a service you resent.Ask yourself why say no is so difficult for you. What feelings are you avoiding in not saying no?

Yes this hits the nail on the head.

As I mentioned I did the exact same thing as OP doing and giving way more than necessary, no boundaries and didn’t want to say no. That let to resentment and “my friend is using me”

Actually, I was just doing way too much. Poor boundaries, saying yes to everything. That was MY choice to make.

OP needs to take a step back and focus on her own life. Say no to childcare, stop throwing big parties for others. Focus on her own life and children. OP is making herself responsible for her friend

You can support a friend without being her childcare and therapist.

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:41

FajitaNightCap · 27/10/2025 12:32

I think that’s a really important point, @boymamahere — a lot of the time on threads like this, the person complaining has been massively over-giving, beyond their own time/financial/emotional resources, and is then seething with suppressed resentment that the other person doesn’t match their efforts. People need to ask themselves what they can give in terms of support etc, and not go beyond that.

For instance, the OP is already envisaging being expected to do more childcare because of her friend’s IVF because of the working patterns of the fruend’s DH and other friends, but she hasn’t been asked, and she has the choice to say no.

What she should definitely not do is agree resentfully to do more childcare, and then get furious when her friend doesn’t throw her a big 50th birthday party or give her a lavish present to ‘repay’ her. Never do a service you resent.Ask yourself why say no is so difficult for you. What feelings are you avoiding in not saying no?

What a very thought provoking reply, thank you for this. Yes I do struggle to say no and I end up taking on far too much.

These replies have been very eye-opening. Yes I do take on too much and go OTT on trying to be the best friend I can be and feel resentful when I don't get the same back. Time to stop giving 200%. Not sure how yet though 😂

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Dollymylove · 27/10/2025 12:37

Sounds like a bit of a one sided friendship. If and when she has another baby do NOT offer childcare otherwise you will be stuck with it. I learned this lesson years ago !!

FajitaNightCap · 27/10/2025 12:32

boymamahere · 27/10/2025 12:10

I think some people give and do too much so they get resentful when others aren’t the same.

I was the same with a friend not that long ago, I was doing so much for her or being a listening ear continuously but didn’t get the same back. It caused so much resentment, I felt used. But I looked at my own choices and realised I was probably doing 200% effort. Even my therapist mentioned I was going too over and beyond, so felt disappointed when others were not doing the same.

Sometimes, like OP, it sounds like she never told her friend how she felt about the childcare, or spending money on her child’s friend, it were her choice to do these things, go big on the 40th birthday party and be a therapist to her friend during her secondary infertility.

Sometimes we need to take a step back and say no or put in boundaries

If this is a true friend that OP wants to keep then she needs to be honest with her x

I think that’s a really important point, @boymamahere — a lot of the time on threads like this, the person complaining has been massively over-giving, beyond their own time/financial/emotional resources, and is then seething with suppressed resentment that the other person doesn’t match their efforts. People need to ask themselves what they can give in terms of support etc, and not go beyond that.

For instance, the OP is already envisaging being expected to do more childcare because of her friend’s IVF because of the working patterns of the fruend’s DH and other friends, but she hasn’t been asked, and she has the choice to say no.

What she should definitely not do is agree resentfully to do more childcare, and then get furious when her friend doesn’t throw her a big 50th birthday party or give her a lavish present to ‘repay’ her. Never do a service you resent.Ask yourself why say no is so difficult for you. What feelings are you avoiding in not saying no?

boymamahere · 27/10/2025 12:31

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:28

I probably offered. I do struggle to say no when a friend is heavily hinting and I'm trying to be a good friend.

Yes I prob did go OTT for her 40th but I can't help feeling disappointed with the lack of thought. Especially after all I do for her.

I guess all I wanted from her when my uncle died was a text or two asking if I was ok. It would have shown that she at least cared. I didn't message or ring her after her miscarriage because I felt like I should. I did it because I was genuinely concerned about her. So when I didn't get anything from her when my uncle died, it made me feel like she doesn't give a sh!t.

The photo of the funeral was of the monks etc in the temple, I said it was his final send off and that I was sad I couldn't be there for it. That's when I got a heart emoji..

I think you seriously need to set some boundaries and step back if you genuinely do want to keep this friendship

for your own sanity stop going above and beyond.

and also, don’t feel bad reaching out for help from your friend because not everyone is the same, some people are there if you ask them to help and some naturally step in

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:28

HenDoNot · 27/10/2025 12:13

I’m on the fence with this one.

Did she ask for the childcare or did you offer? Although either way, I’d be much more appreciative than she has been.

You went OTT for her 40th imo. And it was quite crass of her to tell you the tale of her effort for your birthday.

When she asked if there was anything she could do after your uncle died, well, was there? Did you ask her? Tbh I’d find someone sending me a photo from a funeral quite odd, I wouldn’t know what to reply to that.

I probably offered. I do struggle to say no when a friend is heavily hinting and I'm trying to be a good friend.

Yes I prob did go OTT for her 40th but I can't help feeling disappointed with the lack of thought. Especially after all I do for her.

I guess all I wanted from her when my uncle died was a text or two asking if I was ok. It would have shown that she at least cared. I didn't message or ring her after her miscarriage because I felt like I should. I did it because I was genuinely concerned about her. So when I didn't get anything from her when my uncle died, it made me feel like she doesn't give a sh!t.

The photo of the funeral was of the monks etc in the temple, I said it was his final send off and that I was sad I couldn't be there for it. That's when I got a heart emoji..

OP posts:
WendyFromTransvisionWamp · 27/10/2025 12:28

Just because you work part-time does not mean you’re obliged to help her. You’ve chosen to work part-time to benefit your family and her working full time is not your problem to solve.

cinnamonda · 27/10/2025 12:24

Dontbeme · 27/10/2025 12:22

I would stop the childcare, you are saving her money on childcare and she can't treat you to a coffee now and again? You probably won't see her for dust when you stop being her free help.

This!

cinnamonda · 27/10/2025 12:24

It is ok to help her when you can but her being so tight she can’t buy you a decent birthday present or coffee or a meal every now and then is showing how she uses you.

some people just think they are entitled to your time and efforts without any appreciation.

please spare yourself more heartache and distance from her, go enjoy days out with yourself or other friends. She will realise something is missing when you are distant.
if she asks, then tell her your reasons of feeling unappreciated and that you don’t deserve this - maybe she doesn’t realise or maybe she does and takes you for a ride.

I hear so many good people being taken advantage by “takers” of this world.

good luck, focus on your selfcare

Dontbeme · 27/10/2025 12:22

I would stop the childcare, you are saving her money on childcare and she can't treat you to a coffee now and again? You probably won't see her for dust when you stop being her free help.

Americano75 · 27/10/2025 12:21

She's a user. Drop the rope.

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:20

JLou08 · 27/10/2025 12:07

Have you ever worked full time as a parent? I did it for a few years in a really stressful job and was probably like your friend. Life was hectic and I didn't have much time for putting the same thought into things like I do now I'm part time. I'd maybe cut her some slack if you enjoy her company.

No and I do agree with you on this, she does have a lot going on. Having said that, I do chair a charity on top of working and having the kids so it does feel like a bit of an excuse sometimes. Maybe I'm wrong!

OP posts:
HenDoNot · 27/10/2025 12:13

I’m on the fence with this one.

Did she ask for the childcare or did you offer? Although either way, I’d be much more appreciative than she has been.

You went OTT for her 40th imo. And it was quite crass of her to tell you the tale of her effort for your birthday.

When she asked if there was anything she could do after your uncle died, well, was there? Did you ask her? Tbh I’d find someone sending me a photo from a funeral quite odd, I wouldn’t know what to reply to that.

LilacHedgehog123 · 27/10/2025 12:11

Lasecretaire · 27/10/2025 11:54

You sound like you have different communication and love language styles. She doesn't necessarily sound like a CF but it also sounds like you have never directly asked her to do something for you. IE let me know what I can do when your uncle died. Actually can you take the kids to the cinema this weekend so I can have a breath. I would try a different approach before ghosting. (Also why do you need to do 'more childcare' because she's having IVF - no, you don't, you don't want to do don't. )

She would help if I asked, but I rarely need to since we have grandparent support. She does step in when I ask, but I still feel a bit taken advantage of at times.
Lately she’s been hinting about childcare again (she’s going abroad for IVF), her husband works full-time, and her other friends don’t have flexible schedules. I work part-time by choice and earn less, but I’m happy with that trade-off. Still, because I’m more available, she often leans on me for school pick-ups or half-term help.

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boymamahere · 27/10/2025 12:10

JLou08 · 27/10/2025 12:07

Have you ever worked full time as a parent? I did it for a few years in a really stressful job and was probably like your friend. Life was hectic and I didn't have much time for putting the same thought into things like I do now I'm part time. I'd maybe cut her some slack if you enjoy her company.

I think some people give and do too much so they get resentful when others aren’t the same.

I was the same with a friend not that long ago, I was doing so much for her or being a listening ear continuously but didn’t get the same back. It caused so much resentment, I felt used. But I looked at my own choices and realised I was probably doing 200% effort. Even my therapist mentioned I was going too over and beyond, so felt disappointed when others were not doing the same.

Sometimes, like OP, it sounds like she never told her friend how she felt about the childcare, or spending money on her child’s friend, it were her choice to do these things, go big on the 40th birthday party and be a therapist to her friend during her secondary infertility.

Sometimes we need to take a step back and say no or put in boundaries

If this is a true friend that OP wants to keep then she needs to be honest with her x