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£15bn on hotels?

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wineandagoodbook · 27/10/2025 08:16

While Rachel Reeves is trying to find £10-£30 billion by more taxes, we are spending £15bn on hotels for asylum seekers, it beggars beyond belief

news.sky.com/story/home-office-needs-to-get-a-grip-on-asylum-seeker-accommodation-after-chaotic-response-mps-say-13458475

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EasternStandard · 29/10/2025 11:58

randomchap · 29/10/2025 11:54

It's from a poem engraved at the bottom of the statue of liberty. The New Colossus

I was enjoying the irony

Ik I’m still interested does this mean you relate to the poem and would be fine with barracks near you?

Netcurtainnelly · 29/10/2025 11:57

Disgusting, and they took the Winter fuel allowance away last year. Say no more. Says it all.

randomchap · 29/10/2025 11:54

StatuteofLiberty · 29/10/2025 11:48

You do understand that those who passed through Ellis island had rigourous checks done ?in all sorts of ways ?
It was a processing island and if you failed the checks you did not stay.

Freedom .what does freedom mean to many people fleeing here with extremely right wing views on religion ?

Much like the people in the hotels are being processed then?

randomchap · 29/10/2025 11:54

EasternStandard · 29/10/2025 11:50

@randomchapwhen you quote this are you saying bring people nearby?

Eg you’d say yes to a barracks near to you and if you are as your name suggests do you have DDs who would be nearby too?

It's from a poem engraved at the bottom of the statue of liberty. The New Colossus

I was enjoying the irony

EasternStandard · 29/10/2025 11:50

randomchap · 29/10/2025 11:42

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

@randomchapwhen you quote this are you saying bring people nearby?

Eg you’d say yes to a barracks near to you and if you are as your name suggests do you have DDs who would be nearby too?

StatuteofLiberty · 29/10/2025 11:48

You do understand that those who passed through Ellis island had rigourous checks done ?in all sorts of ways ?
It was a processing island and if you failed the checks you did not stay.

Freedom .what does freedom mean to many people fleeing here with extremely right wing views on religion ?

randomchap · 29/10/2025 11:42

StatuteofLiberty · 29/10/2025 11:30

Unvetted = unknown .

That's enough.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

StatuteofLiberty · 29/10/2025 11:30

Unvetted = unknown .

That's enough.

CorneliaCupp · 29/10/2025 11:01

StatuteofLiberty · 29/10/2025 10:55

@CorneliaCupp the very first job of any government is to protect it's citizens

So they must simply do that and stop qllowing an endless throng of unvetted men in

I agree.
However, unvetted does not equal dangerous.

StatuteofLiberty · 29/10/2025 10:55

@CorneliaCupp the very first job of any government is to protect it's citizens

So they must simply do that and stop qllowing an endless throng of unvetted men in

Whatafustercluck · 29/10/2025 10:53

WilfredsPies · 28/10/2025 11:35

I don’t understand why you’re so resistant to accepting that Dublin did us no favours at all and we’d have been better off ditching it a few years before Brexit. Is it an anti Brexit thing? You’re so cross about it that you want to attribute all of our current issues to it? I understand that, but you’re flogging a dead horse over Dublin.

Yes, if it makes you happy, we technically had the means to argue that case, but looking at the stats, we had very few cases that met the criteria we needed to satisfy before we could argue it. I repeat, we accepted more people under Dublin than we removed. It was not a loss to the UK.

And of course, one of the criteria was demonstrating that asylum applicants had been in a particular country. Do you think EU countries would simply take our word for it that an asylum applicant had said he’d been through countries A, B and C en route to the UK? Even if he admitted to knowing his route? And bearing in mind that France is not the only country in Europe that is not landlocked, do you think they’d be willing to accept the return of thousands of asylum seekers from the UK because it’s ’obvious’ that’s where they came from? No, they absolutely wouldn’t.

As per my reply to the previous poster, between 6 and 16% were being processed for transfer out by the UK under the DA. That's between 6 and 16% more than are currently, at zero. And as I've also said, accepting your point that there are known problems with the DA, even when the EU's new system comes into place next year, we won't benefit from that either now.

WildLimePoet · 28/10/2025 20:55

Originality really goes to die in a corner when people start copy pasting your own replies back to you.

Try harder.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 20:19

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 20:17

I don’t think they should be locked up, I think that was what you were responding to, perhaps another poster.

I do think there’s a better system where we don’t have such chaos and lack of safety.

Apologies.
And I agree, the system needs revising.
Though in this specific case I'd imagine it has as much to do with poor mental health services and poverty as it does the asylum system (based on the scant details the press have given us).

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 20:17

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 20:16

Touche!
Doesn't make all refugees criminals, and doesn't mean they should be treated as such.

I don’t think they should be locked up, I think that was what you were responding to, perhaps another poster.

I do think there’s a better system where we don’t have such chaos and lack of safety.

Clavinova · 28/10/2025 20:16

StripyHorse · 28/10/2025 18:57

Have a look at Serco, Mears and Clearsprings Ready Homes and their lucrative contracts. Providing the minimum for maximum cost. Boris Johnson's government Sioned off on those contracts in 2019 and the Home Office is locked in to them until 2029.

There is a no-penalty break clause for most of the contracts, beginning March 2026. The Home Affairs Committee warned that current ministers have shown "little clarity regarding the basis on which they will make a decision on using the break clause".

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 20:16

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 20:13

The checks listed in earlier discussion didn’t flag anything.

Touche!
Doesn't make all refugees criminals, and doesn't mean they should be treated as such.

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 20:13

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 20:11

No. A refugee.

The checks listed in earlier discussion didn’t flag anything.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 20:11

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 20:08

He arrived in 2020 on the back of a lorry, so yes an asylum seeker.

No. A refugee.

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 20:08

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 16:25

Because this is a thread about asylum hotels.
Generally speaking it doesn't matter at all, but it does matter in the context of this thread.

He arrived in 2020 on the back of a lorry, so yes an asylum seeker.

sleepwouldbenice · 28/10/2025 19:11

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:19

Just going to leave this here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypkd57n97o

Of course this is horrific
So is this
news.sky.com/story/man-charged-over-racially-aggravated-rape-in-walsall-13459304

StripyHorse · 28/10/2025 18:57

Have a look at Serco, Mears and Clearsprings Ready Homes and their lucrative contracts. Providing the minimum for maximum cost. Boris Johnson's government Sioned off on those contracts in 2019 and the Home Office is locked in to them until 2029.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 28/10/2025 18:48

Did the Tories have a Fast Lane for hotel owners like the PPE farce?

BundleBoogie · 28/10/2025 18:34

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 16:25

Because this is a thread about asylum hotels.
Generally speaking it doesn't matter at all, but it does matter in the context of this thread.

If he’s described as an ‘Afghan National’, he clearly hasn’t been here for long. Given his age, he is clearly not a doctor (as some pro immigration types like to claim about all migrants) and he is unlikely to be on any kind of essential worker visa. I guess he could be here on a student visa or he could be an asylum seeker straight off a small boat and into a hotel.

It’s not as relevant as the fact that he has come here and murdered an innocent man. Like the young migrant from Sudan murdered an innocent woman. We need to stop men who hate us and want to kill us entering and residing in our country. We need to stop the hate preachers and radical hate preachers who actively hate us and advocate stoning women and murdering us en masse. The government need to work out how to achieve that. If they have the will. I’m not sure they care enough.

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 17:13

SpaceRaccoon · 28/10/2025 15:19

Just going to leave this here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypkd57n97o

That is awful. He was trying to help and this happened. It’s horrendous.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 16:25

ChessBess · 28/10/2025 16:21

Why does their immigration status matter?

Edited

Because this is a thread about asylum hotels.
Generally speaking it doesn't matter at all, but it does matter in the context of this thread.