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£15bn on hotels?

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wineandagoodbook · 27/10/2025 08:16

While Rachel Reeves is trying to find £10-£30 billion by more taxes, we are spending £15bn on hotels for asylum seekers, it beggars beyond belief

news.sky.com/story/home-office-needs-to-get-a-grip-on-asylum-seeker-accommodation-after-chaotic-response-mps-say-13458475

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TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 14:45

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 14:27

Better than nothing? You haven’t looked at the stats, have you? They’re out there. They aren’t secret.

You are aware that we left the EU without any agreements in place? No access to the security database for instance.

So yes, any agreement is better than what Brexit gave us which was nothing.

There were no boat crossing recorded before 2018.

TheGrimSmile · 27/10/2025 14:44

This whole shitshow has been caused by Farage. Thanks to him we left the EU and we are no longer able to just send them back. He did it deliberately to make it a bigger problem so he has something to whip people up about. I'm sick of hearing about the bloody boats. In the scheme of things we have much bigger problems. Farage knows what he is doing. He doesn't care about the boats, he just wants to get in power to make him and his cronies even richer than they already are (at our expense) Just like Trump. And all the fucking idiots are falling for it.

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:44

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 14:42

Asylum seekers have been returned, Rwanda plan sent back 2 volunteers.

No party is going to stop the boats, don't you agree that we need a working asylum process instead of demonising refugees?

They’ve been swapped you mean. It’s one in one out.

How does that help if channel crossings keep going up? Which they are.

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 14:42

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:27

Channel crossings are up this year, how is the France deal better?

Asylum seekers have been returned, Rwanda plan sent back 2 volunteers.

No party is going to stop the boats, don't you agree that we need a working asylum process instead of demonising refugees?

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 27/10/2025 14:41

Whatafustercluck · 27/10/2025 08:20

Yes, just when will the Tories take ownership of their mistake in implementing this policy, as well as taking us out of the EU and therefore the Dublin Agreement?

@Whatafustercluck , The Conservatives were justifiably kicked out; Labour came in to office promising the earth and have failed to deliver their exit can’t come soon enough. No one absolutely no one is taken in by their policy of blaming everyone else for their endless list of failures.

randomchap · 27/10/2025 14:36

ChessBess · 27/10/2025 14:24

I think a safe to say the majority of the British public are sick of it. I’d bet my house on Reform winning the next general election, because it’s clear as day this government isn’t going to stop the boats. No wonder we’re the laughing stock of the world.

Reform will make us an absolute laughing stock.

Farage et al are just the faces of the disaster capitalists who want to strip this country bare. You'll lose the NHS, workers protections, holiday and maternity pay. Environmental protections will disappear.

They are not in any way patriotic, and will rip out everything good about this country and give it to their backers.

You think it's bad now, wait until those charlatans get in

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 14:35

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:27

Channel crossings are up this year, how is the France deal better?

It’s the assumption that the migrants themselves will go along with this deal that makes me laugh! They’ve already been in France, there’s a reason they jumped on a small boat to come to the UK. Who in their right mind thinks that any of them will say ‘ok, fair enough, I’ll stay in Paris’ when they’re told that we have this agreement?

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 14:27

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 14:23

The Dublin agreement was still better than nothing, as in the no deal Brexit.

Same with the France return agreement, better than the Rwanda plan that cost a lot and did nothing.

And ofcourse a working asylum processing system would save a lot of tax payers money

Better than nothing? You haven’t looked at the stats, have you? They’re out there. They aren’t secret.

Dragonscaledaisy · 27/10/2025 14:27

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 08:34

Yanbu maybe Starmer will do as he says and smash the gangs and they won’t be needed.

Absolute farce

I note that stupid line has quietly been forgotten. Time to admit Labour has lost control of the economy, lost control of immigration and lost the confidence of the public. Starmer needs to resign.

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:27

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 14:23

The Dublin agreement was still better than nothing, as in the no deal Brexit.

Same with the France return agreement, better than the Rwanda plan that cost a lot and did nothing.

And ofcourse a working asylum processing system would save a lot of tax payers money

Channel crossings are up this year, how is the France deal better?

ChessBess · 27/10/2025 14:24

I think a safe to say the majority of the British public are sick of it. I’d bet my house on Reform winning the next general election, because it’s clear as day this government isn’t going to stop the boats. No wonder we’re the laughing stock of the world.

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 14:23

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:15

@WilfredsPiesyes you’re correct. It’s a shame this has grown as misinformation.

The Dublin agreement was still better than nothing, as in the no deal Brexit.

Same with the France return agreement, better than the Rwanda plan that cost a lot and did nothing.

And ofcourse a working asylum processing system would save a lot of tax payers money

sleepwouldbenice · 27/10/2025 14:21

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 13:01

the report appears to refer to a 10 year cost of £15bn.

the deficit RR needs to fill is annual

Agreed. Everyone wants the cost to be lower. However in context:
Its a 10 year cost so assume £1.5b per year
Which is only a small amount compared to the budget gap (various figures quoted but let's say £40bn pa)
I am pretty sure it comes out of Overseas aid budget as well. Yes of course its all taxpayers money but its overseas aid that is hit the most

Iwantmyoldnameback · 27/10/2025 14:19

Ablondiebutagoody · 27/10/2025 08:31

This government is a farce. They are incapable of taking action on so many issues

It wasn't this government that stopped processing immigrants and just let the numbers in hostels (formerly hotels) increase. Guess there's some hotel owners making a pretty penny.

TopPocketFind · 27/10/2025 14:17

ohfourfoxache · 27/10/2025 13:07

Follow. The. Money.

Always.

the contracts were agreed under the Tory government……who are the stakeholders here?

Serco pops up a lot.....

EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:15

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 14:10

@Bagsintheboot @Whatafustercluck

Leaving the Dublin Agreement didn’t make the slightest bit of difference. The stats are publically available if you want to fact check.

Apologies for any spelling mistakes, I’m typing this without my glasses on, so it’s all a bit of a blur.

@WilfredsPiesyes you’re correct. It’s a shame this has grown as misinformation.

SmallerTheSubj · 27/10/2025 14:14

Whatafustercluck · 27/10/2025 08:20

Yes, just when will the Tories take ownership of their mistake in implementing this policy, as well as taking us out of the EU and therefore the Dublin Agreement?

Absolutely. But state money to private equity, fantastic for shareholders to profit from the tax payer.

WilfredsPies · 27/10/2025 14:10

@Bagsintheboot @Whatafustercluck

Leaving the Dublin Agreement didn’t make the slightest bit of difference. The stats are publically available if you want to fact check.

Apologies for any spelling mistakes, I’m typing this without my glasses on, so it’s all a bit of a blur.

WildLimePoet · 27/10/2025 13:52

Bagsintheboot · 27/10/2025 10:41

55% of the welfare bill goes on pensioners, most of which is the state pension. We have an ageing population and this isn't going anywhere any time soon; this will only increase. There is no way the welfare bill can be drastically reduced without hitting pensioners hard as well, and no government will do that.

The remaining is working age and child benefits, of which 11% is housing benefit and 24% is disability.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/benefit-expenditure-and-caseload-tables-information-and-guidance/benefit-expenditure-and-caseload-tables-information-and-guidance

There is no excuse for 1000 people a day going onto PIP and nearly 10 million welfare claimants that aren’t pensioners.

New Labour and Bliar caused this, Tories made it worse, and Two Tier has just broken the camels back.

MO0N · 27/10/2025 13:14

The ageing population is not just a UK problem.

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 13:10

Bagsintheboot · 27/10/2025 12:37

But this is like Brexit all over again. "If we leave the EU we'll have so much more money".

Even if, tomorrow, every single asylum seeker vanished from our shores, even if we cancelled every penny of foreign aid, this country would still be broke.

We have staggering debt and the interest payments on that are huge.

Our welfare bill is astronomical and increasing due to the ageing population and the consequent stage pension spending.

We are economically fairly inactive as a nation too.

Stopping all asylum support isn't going to touch the sides. It's a drop in the ocean.

The uk has really only been prosperous when allied to other countries resources- be that colonialism or offering a sanctuary for money launderers at the height of globalisation or aligning to the EU.

we haven’t a hope alone and will just continue to get more and more poor and miserable

ohfourfoxache · 27/10/2025 13:07

Follow. The. Money.

Always.

the contracts were agreed under the Tory government……who are the stakeholders here?

MO0N · 27/10/2025 13:05

parietal · 27/10/2025 09:01

it was under the tories that these policies were developed and badly implemented and the money was spent. so blame Boris & co for this utter incompetence.

I agree!

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 13:04

xanthomelana · 27/10/2025 08:56

They need to get on with making this country less appealing to the chancers that are not at any risk in their home countries and just here for the money. Until they toughen up the boats will keep on coming and the cost will spiral out of control.

In the fight to make this country less appealing to “chancers” we have successfully put off the great and the good- students, researchers, professionals etc who don’t want to come to the uk because it’s unwelcoming of foreigners and has a poor standard of living. They’re going to Canada, the EU or the Middle East who welcome them with open arms.

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 13:01

wineandagoodbook · 27/10/2025 08:16

While Rachel Reeves is trying to find £10-£30 billion by more taxes, we are spending £15bn on hotels for asylum seekers, it beggars beyond belief

news.sky.com/story/home-office-needs-to-get-a-grip-on-asylum-seeker-accommodation-after-chaotic-response-mps-say-13458475

the report appears to refer to a 10 year cost of £15bn.

the deficit RR needs to fill is annual