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For admonishing DM - diabetes and having cake as a meal

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StationHouse89 · 26/10/2025 21:12

DM has been diabetic for last few years. Terrible diet. Very little exercise. On metformin. Doing things together over the weekend her meals would often consist of a massive piece of cake, hot chocolate with cream and marshmallows etc etc. I got frustrated with it and pointed out how terrible for her condition this is - to me it seems pointless to me to be taking medication then doing this to yourself. She seems quite put out. AIBU?

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Anotherdayanotherpound · 26/10/2025 22:23

It’s really frustrating when you know your loved ones are harming themselves and you’ll be the one picking up the pieces when they get sick

TalulahJP · 26/10/2025 22:18

The three diabetics i know all seem to behave as though the metformin is a miracle pill that allows them to continue as they always did.

One eats a packet of biscuits for dinner. Another eats chips and curry sauce.

It’s like they don’t take it seriously. All are still overweight.

One doesnt have a clue about what to eat, despite the internet and a plethora of books she has picked up second hand. And also what Ive told her from my relative who also has type 2.

All have had health implications such as permanent damage to the eyes or feet. Yet they do not change their ways. It’s like smokers. They are addicted to the thing that’s killing them. They just don’t want to stop.

Their attitude baffles me. I’d be terrified.

So youre not being unreasonable to point out that they aren’t doing themselves any favours. But then you have to step back and let them live their life. If they don’t want to change that’s their problem not yours. You can’t make them change.

It’s hard to step back and do nothing. But you have to.

NameChange0101010101 · 26/10/2025 22:13

Its one thing if you genuinely think she doesn't understand her condition and you were genuinely trying to enlighten her.

Its another thing entirely if you're just frustrated and taking it out on her. If she already knows the risks, nagging her isn't going to help change her behaviour (that doesn't mean what she's doiing is OK for her health, of course it isnt).

StationHouse89 · 26/10/2025 22:10

@Bobiverse we were out for lunch. That is what she chose to have. And listening to her it seems like this is not out of the norm. This is why I’m not sure on the level of her understanding, she seems to say ‘we just had a piece of cake’ if they went somewhere and I ask what they had to eat, as if it’s a good thing. Maybe she thinks just not eating a lot = weight loss = good for diabetes.

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StationHouse89 · 26/10/2025 22:06

She has some medical training, but seems to take little interest in the topic. I mean, everyone knows that’s not a good meal. But I’m not certain how much she understands exactly what this is doing to her insulin and the knock on effects. I’m worried and upset and also cross. She’s already had some serious health scares in her life, seems to never learn or put two and two together.

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BingBongBish · 26/10/2025 21:38

QueenOfHiraeth · 26/10/2025 21:29

You are quite right to point this out.
FIL was diabetic and refused to stop cake or sugar in tea, not too many years later he developed Alzheimers (the risk is hugely raised by uncontrolled sugars) which he eventually died of.
My aunt is also diabetic and has regularly broken eating advice, her health is now very badly affected. She has had heart attacks, ongoing pain and numerous hospital admissions all caused by the diabetes.
Maybe when she calms down you can have a serious chat about your concerns for her going forward

The OP doesn't need to 'point it out' because her mum is a grown woman and she already knows it's bad for her health.

It's like telling a fat person they should change their diet and exercise more.

However, the OP could gently point out how worried it makes her.

But still, her mum may not want to hear it.

GrumpyOldCrone · 26/10/2025 21:37

Instead of berating her, it might help if you adopted a healthy diabetic diet yourself, in solidarity with your mum. See how long you can keep it up. Can you manage a week? A month? A year? Twenty years? Give it a go, you might learn something!

FloofyKat · 26/10/2025 21:30

I think a lot depends on how you approached the topic. I’m Tupe 2 and don’t always make good choices as I am human and sometimes go with what brings me pleasure. I am also a grown up and recognise that my choices may have consequences. I don’t think I’d be very happy if my friends or family berated me for my decisions.

QueenOfHiraeth · 26/10/2025 21:29

You are quite right to point this out.
FIL was diabetic and refused to stop cake or sugar in tea, not too many years later he developed Alzheimers (the risk is hugely raised by uncontrolled sugars) which he eventually died of.
My aunt is also diabetic and has regularly broken eating advice, her health is now very badly affected. She has had heart attacks, ongoing pain and numerous hospital admissions all caused by the diabetes.
Maybe when she calms down you can have a serious chat about your concerns for her going forward

TomatoSandwiches · 26/10/2025 21:24

No point admonishing her, instead you could help find healthier or diabetic friendly versions of the food she likes.
Diabetes is so insidious, especially type2 because you don't really experience the worst symptoms until it's too late and need medication and I think it's actually quite difficult to change your lifelong eating habits even knowing what can happen.
You may as well learn the recipes because you are at a higher risk of developing it too.

BingBongBish · 26/10/2025 21:24

No-one likes their poor eating habits pointed out to them.

How did you put it to her?

Nicely or not so nicely?

Changecross · 26/10/2025 21:20

A GP friend d was bemoaning this sort of thing the other day. I wonder how much money would be saved by the NHS and on PIP etc payments if people took some responsibility for their health and followed the instructions of their doctor.

ItsOnlyHobnobs · 26/10/2025 21:20

How did you express your opinion?

What’s your mother’s quality of life like? Finances, friendships, interests, hobbies, mental health etc.

For a lot of people, food is their crutch, their emotional support/comfort, their safety net that numbs their emotions. It’s also immensely chemically pleasurable.

People aren’t idiots, but quite frankly they think the cake will make them feel better than extending their life span, when quality of life isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

Catwoman8 · 26/10/2025 21:19

Is she just treating herself more than usual because you are out for the weekend?

My nan was type 1 diabetic all her life. She ate unhealthy food regularly despite her daughter (a nurse) always telling her off for it, never exercised. She lived well into her 80s.

Bobiverse · 26/10/2025 21:16

How was she managing to get a giant slice of gave for lunch? Didn’t you go somewhere for actual lunch if you were hanging out for the weekend?

I’d be speaking to her too, because when she starts getting toes, then feet, then legs amputated, she’ll be expecting you to help her around.

Sleepyandtiredandlazy · 26/10/2025 21:16

It amazes me the number of people who don't take diabetes seriously.

Given the health repercussions of not controlling the condition behaviour like your DM's is absolutely ridiculous.

DoAWheelie · 26/10/2025 21:14

It's her life and she can make her own choices.