To think Toby Carvery is working class ?

People allowed to identify with the class that they feel based on their culture and upbringing.
Personally I cringe when I read the graspy attempts on MN to be middle class.

Hmm maybe. I was brought up working class. I was proud to be working class. But when I try to claim that now, people laugh. So I’m class confused. I guess the Toby Carvery question is the clincher and im Still working class. Hurrah.

I don’t see why it really matters, but obviously it’s very cheap and you can pile your plate high, so it’s more likely to attract people who aren’t super rich.

My niece has worked as a waitress at 2 different branches and said the hygiene of the kitchen staff was the worst she has seen out of all the places she has worked as a waitress at. 🤢🤮

@Comefromaway lol, no idea. Ive only been to Harrods twice I think (decades ago) and never had a meal at a Toby's. Im probably an alien.

I dont think its helpful to put people into categories of that sort nowadays anyway - Traditionally WC means people that dont work but are not titled (ie upperclass). WC is everybody that is working (ie almost everybody!)

Obviously nowadays people use middle class to include people that do work but are not "however they choose to categorise working class as" which is generally insulting?

I dont know why people are disingenuous about what is working class and that basically its everyone who works. You know it isnt

It reminds me of that documentary that John Prescott did many many years ago and he interviewed a single mum, very young girl who was living on benefits and she said she thought she was middle class and he asked why and she said, well Im not working class because I havent got a job.

We are also more recently, certainly over the past 10 years or so, in the habit of calling people who are more accurately the underclass as the working classes. Then everyone else is categorised as middle class.

I eat at Toby Carvery & shop at Harrods’ where does that put me then?

What is “working class”? Someone who works at a job? Isn’t that nearly everyone except retired people and SAHM?

I don't know as I've not been. But it's meant to be cheap and plentiful, so I wouldn't expect to see the aristocracy or emirati royal family dining there. But any one who likes roasts and a bargain and lives near one and likes the taste. So more than just working class people but certainly plenty. I'm guessing.

Working class hero and my life long crush
I hope they have a carvery up in popstar heaven
I hope you are enjoying double bubble Yorkies, the crispy bits swimming in honey at the bottom of the parsnip vat, caulk cheese mush as hot as lava and extra slightly greasy gravey with a bit of skin forming - always and forever my sweet sweet man…with a side of pigs in blankets when it’s not even fucking Christmas time!

absolutley starving now ! Could hands down do a big daddy/the guv’nor oval plate to be fair!!

Working class hero and my life long crush
I hope they have a carvery up in popstar heaven
I hope you are enjoying double bubble Yorkies, the crispy bits swimming in honey at the bottom of the parsnip vat, caulk cheese mush as hot as lava and extra slightly greasy gravey with a bit of skin forming - always and forever my sweet sweet man…with a side of pigs in blankets when it’s not even fucking Christmas time!

absolutley starving now ! Could hands down do a big daddy/the guv’nor oval plate to be fair!!

What on earth is " gammon" ? You've lost me there.

I read the title and thought “who is Toby Carvery?” I’ve nothing useful to add.

Of course it's a slur. But an apt description of the people that act like it. It's something people can control and choose how to behave so totally different from skin colour which someone was trying to bring into it

I'm working class but not a Chav .

They’re all crap these days. Carvery used to be great, these days it’s all bland, unseasoned, minimal effort crap. It also used to be cheap, not so anymore.

Are the working classes poor then?

Working class hasnt really been about income, its more about labour/division/ownership/management or otherwise

Manual jobs are generally seen as WC for example but they earn quite a lot of money , plumbers, train drivers, etc etc

Are you middle class quiz:

1. do you go to Toby Carvery?
2. do you go to the Harvester?
3. do you go camping?

Never heard of it! Brought up very much WC… is it an English thing??

I’ve never been and never intend to, does that mean by default I’m middle class?

George Michael loved a carvery.

I love it, especially the breakfast. The toby carvery near us has closed down and been replaced by miller and carter, not impressed!

Chav is a discriminatory slur, it’s weird that you can’t see the connection

You know full well ‘Chav’ is a loaded term in some contexts - see also ‘gammon’ for someone like my dad who is a beautiful person, conservative with a small C in his world view which results in him being offensive to some people for just existing

Chav- Doesn't bother me at all as despite my two degrees and ‘career’ and money, I use it about myself and my kids at times in affectionate way relating to my W/C background upbringing, accent, and some of my kids dress sense and crazy antics during their teen/ school years

You mean it in the nastiest sense of the word , it’s classist and derogatory and well you know it me duck !

Sadly it would seem you are working class

What's the point of this thread?

You were looking in the mirror then?