This is a scam isn’t it?

Yep it was Amway that I was referring to upthread. I'd forgotten the name of it.
Agree it was all very weird and cult like the way it was presented.

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Will depend on the tactics of @Namechabgeforthissss's "friend" if they are prepared to pressurise her so the "friend" can earn their £300

edited to clarify

This article is a few years old but still relevant. In fact for anyone wanting information on MLM the articles on the website linked are very useful. Someone upthread mentioned Which? Magazine endorsement of UW based on Which’s consumer survey results. Whenever the consumers are also the sellers the chances of getting falsely positive results is very high. Which? Magazine has acknowledged this problem. The real feedback for UW is pretty awful as you’d expect when the way UW is sold is rife with Miss-selling and misleading tactics are encouraged. https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/is-which-wrong-to-recommend-mlm-utility-warehouse-is-it-really-a-good-energy-provider/

I worked for a Business in the 90's that was not far from an RAF Base and a few wives worked with me. Amway went through the Base like Wildfire and caused all sorts of issues

Not sure about that but there's an episode of Schitts creek where Moira sets up an AlleVous makeup one and it turns out the entire town already signed up and sold to one another...

Do you not know how to use Google?

The ones which don't have a physical product are the pyramid schemes, which have been illegal for some years now, and the ones offering a so-called service - usually ones which you have to pay for a training programme. The training programme basically teaches you how marvellous it all is, and how to sell the training programme to your 'downline' and when they pay for it, you earn commission. Then your downline does the training and sells the same thing to the next lot of suckers, ad infinitum.

I’ve just remembered, a couple of years ago, a woman started chatting to me in the department store I was working in. It was that sort of atmosphere - not fast-moving, more personal. She started telling me how she had been very successful in life, seemed to think I was “too good for this” and why didn’t I want better for my children? 🙄 I was trying to be polite and diplomatic but she pushed and pushed for my phone number. I ended up accepting her business card (not giving my number out) and told the floor manager she was using the good nature of staff to tout for business.

Omg Amway, the thing that makes me laugh over the years all the houses I've ever visited or been in ,have you ever once seen an amway product? ..no!!
When I was a teenager, someone in our village tried to get my parents to sign up to amway, it was all secretive, they couldn't disclose over the phone ,had to come to our house...my mum soon gave her short shrift!!

Well, "This is a scam isn’t it?" and "Am I right to avoid her?" sounds like you weren't actually clear.

screams scam if you give her money more fool you don't come back crying the victim lol

OP run ,run run!

If you go along with this you’ll be doing exactly what she’s doing to other people. And you’ll have sleepless nights stressing about how you can recruit your 4 victims. The only way she can recoup her money is to pressurise others which is why she’s being so brazen.

This is a problem you don’t need.

Its like the cup of tea anology. She offered you said no, that should be the end of it... anyone who doesnt accept no the first time needs distance.

Defo a pyramid scheme

Yes @Namechabgeforthissss it's a scam, all of these kinds of things are. MLM, and pyramid schemes and the like. It's despicable for her to have targetted you as a newbie on the block - and well done for resisting.

I have had several women in my village wanting me to get on board with their 'bodyshop on line' business, or something similar. I have said 'definitely not,' and they haven't carried on... Maybe I gave a resting bitch face vibe!

What people don't tell you is that in most cases, you will pay say, £750 for goods that can sell for £2000 (with the mark-up on each item.) You get half the £1250 profit, and they get half. (So £625 each.) No matter how much you sell (or don't sell) you will still have to give them their £625.

So the onus is on YOU to make sure you sell sell sell, as you have to give them their £625 cut! Even if you don't sell most of the product(s.) and make just £200 (for example) then you will still have to give them £625. So you will have to fork out an extra £425 to make sure they get their £625 from you. And you will make nothing.

They will still want their cut even if you sell nothing! So you will be out of pocket for the £750 you forked out, and an additional £625 for their 'cut.' So £1375 gone, and you're stuck with a bunch of stuff you can't sell!

AVOID like the plague. These vile schemes always target women, and usually younger women who are mums, as they are seen to be more vulnerable than middle aged and older women - most who would flat out refuse. I'm not saying all younger mums are soft and gullible, and older women are not, but they do typically find that young mums who are perhaps not so well off financially are more likely to fall for this type of scam. And it is a scam. Very few people make money from it, and many people lose out.

Don't get involved. Don't be that annoying person trying to con people into joining in. You will very likely all lose money, and you will lose friends. I can't believe these dreadful schemes/scams are still going! I guess there are always some people gullible enough for them to continue!

Is there not an episode of This Country where Kerry Mucklow becomes a Juice boss lady

All the MLMs I've come across absolutely do have a product but that's not what you make the money from

Which ones don't have any product or service at all?

Amway products I understand are actually pretty good, or at least they used to be

The latest scam on my local FB seems to be about running your own travel agency from home.Lots of pictures of exciting free holidays you can earn.Im by no means simple minded but even i cant work out how it works apart from the usual recruiting..

I would also say. "No thank you I'm not interested and please don't ask again because the answer will always be no."

Bear in mind that pyramid schemes are illegal in the UK and any association is dangerous. For this reason put yourself first - tell her that you are not investing as it is illegal. People like this usually need firm words to get the message. If she keeps pestering you then inform the police. Pyramid schemes have caused so many financial disasters and suicides, this is just not worth spending any time worrying.

Sorry if I come across as abrupt but I do worry how many people can be taken in by these types of schemes.

Indeed. Like the ‘friend’, she’s probably desperately trying to do it and losing friends in the process. If she doesn’t do it, she’ll lose her money which she probably can’t afford. It’s all quite sad

I agree, and then OP gets snippy at posters answering her question about whether this is a scam or not.

Its a scam. Say you dont want to be involved.

It doesn’t sound like a bona fide company to me, more like pyramid scheme. My husband was approached by someone in the same band as him who also started up with” I have a great opportunity I’d like to share with you”. Took him about an hour and a half to extract himself from her clutches. Pushy and deaf to polite demurral is the norm with the recruiters.