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To be furious about this?

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Overlenders · 26/10/2025 07:55

When I was 11 my parents forced a friendship with a 10 year old girl from my neighbourhood - 2 streets away.

This is how it happened - we went to the same church as this girl’s cousins and aunt/uncle who lived about a mile away - think neighbouring area of a provincial city.

one day I and my parents went up to the aunt / uncles / cousins house and I played outside - with cousins and this girl and her brother - we were all the same age - well within 2 years of each other.

my parents were indoors with the other 2 sets of parents. That meeting itself wasn’t bad but I thought that it was just a get together for all of us - I didn’t realise it was a specific thing to get my and the girl together.

about a month later the girl - Anna - turned up at my house asking me to go other cinema. I’ve always hated watching films as I have a short attention span unless it’s a comedy and I didn’t want to go. My grandparents were staying with us and said “that’s nice she’s asked” etc. so I only said yes to the cinema trip cos j was afraid of being criticised if I said no.

the cinema was shit tbh I find films boring. Did age 11 - do now unless it’s comedy.

anyway - a few weeks later 11 year old me was at home with my parents and said m

“I want to do x today” - I can’t for the life of me remember what x was. I can’t really hazard a guess even.

my mum said “no you’re seeing Anna Taylor today”

and thus they forced a friendship between me and this girl that lasted til the end of secondary school.

AIBU to feel angry about this? Growing independence imo is important at 11 and this was being stifled be forcing me with this girl

also though my secondary school years my mum used to guilt me into socialising with Anna saying Anna’s mum had been complaining I wasn’t making an effort with her etc.

AIBU to feel violated? Someone was let into my life that I didn’t even want or need.

Anna fyi was a doctor’s daughter who was very very snobby. Her Mum was sahm.

i was only child of 2 working parents but mum was alcoholic abusive - I’ve literally had to deal with my mums aggressive moods aged 10 - so after mopping up my mum’s shit I found Anna very ‘precious’

AIBU to feel angry that part of my childhood freedom was taken away ?

I feel a friendship was forced on me with no context for it

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Overlenders · 27/10/2025 04:26

The other thing was I was a fat 15 year old who was over eating out of insecurity.
me and my mum were talking about this one day on one of my mum’s rare sober moments and I revealed how I felt down about being fat and was overeating. My mum responded

“I think it’s boredom - you could’ve had a ‘good go’ with Anna Taylor round the park!” We lived near a park and ‘good go’ was her weird way of saying ‘walk’

That statement had the effect of making me feel even more down than I already felt. I thought to myself that my mother didn’t know me at all, in that case, if she thought I liked spending time with Anna Taylor.

The other thing is, aged 13, I’d lost a lot of weight if gone from a fat kid to a normal weight kid. During the time I was losing weight I hardly socialised with anyone - and I was happy like that. I was more popular in my school class after losing weight despite not socialising outside school. I was also more independent and confident. But by aged 15 I’d put the weight back on, lost my school friendship groups and become insecure.

so in essence o disagreed with my mum that I was overeating out of ‘boredom’ more insecurity- 2 different things

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Overlenders · 27/10/2025 04:07

The other thing about my mum forcing me into a friendship that had a bad effect on me - this actually wasn’t the only friendship she forced. She did this even more directly once on holiday, possibly because on holiday I was a captive audience, and called me selfish for not, in her opinion, being genuinely sociable enough

The unfortunate effect of this was I was brought up, essentially, to see friendships as a thing of obligation. Because of this - aged about 14 - I myself used to ask other kids out repeatedly and phone them repeatedly despite being told “no” 4 times! The psychology behind this was my mum had brought me up to feel that friendships were a thing of obligation rather than actively wanting a friendship iyswim.

There was one girl Claire if I phoned 4 times and my mum said

“Don’t phone her - not if you’ve had 3 refusals!” - so I thought because I was obligated by my mum to do friendships then so was everyone else!

Forcing friendships and using words like ‘selfish’ for perceived lack of sociability is damaging - it really is

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YoudonemessedupAyAyRon · 26/10/2025 23:24

OP, I don’t know if you want to be getting the hard time you are receiving on this thread. Is this a deliberate attempt to replicate the sort of responses you would have received from your abusive, gaslighting parents? Once again, I recommend you move this thread to Relationships and/or join the Stately Homes thread. Vent in a place where people might understand where you are coming from, otherwise you are just hurting yourself and wasting your time.

Swiftie1878 · 26/10/2025 22:52

PrettyPickle · 26/10/2025 22:18

And you need to have some compassion and not all of us were brought up in a picture perfect world. As a child, the way you are treated can have long lasting affects on your psyche and its not always easy to unravel it without a lot of pain.

If you are not interested in trying to help...then go look at some other persons post...this is what Mumsnet is all about, somewhere to let off steam and share experiences.

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I am trying to help. Sometimes, indulging people in their navel gazing is counterproductive.

This isn’t a case of abuse. She is unhappy about the way she was ‘forced’ to be friends with someone she didn’t like very much (and who didn’t like her).
If you can’t get over stuff like this, 50 years on, you either aren’t trying, or you have sunk into a state of utter self-obsession/indulgence.

Does she even realise that others have REAL problems? Is there no perspective?

You may feel YOU are helping, with your compassion and understanding.
I say you’re enabling a load of old nonsense.

PrettyPickle · 26/10/2025 22:18

Swiftie1878 · 26/10/2025 20:37

She’s an adult now. She needs to get a grip.

And you need to have some compassion and not all of us were brought up in a picture perfect world. As a child, the way you are treated can have long lasting affects on your psyche and its not always easy to unravel it without a lot of pain.

If you are not interested in trying to help...then go look at some other persons post...this is what Mumsnet is all about, somewhere to let off steam and share experiences.

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 20:55

Howmanycatsistoomany · 26/10/2025 10:19

My parents forced me to to go out with our fucking creep of a neighbour when I was 14 and he was 38! You think you were violated?

So sorry to hear this ❤️

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Overlenders · 26/10/2025 20:49

Around the time my mum pushed me with this girl I can remember her saying distinctly out of the blue random no context for it .- and she avoided eye contact with me -

“you can’t live in an adults’ world - because adults push adults around and children push children around” - so maybe that was her motivation for getting me together with this girl …

but thing is .. I wasn’t living in an adults’ world. Living in an adults world is a child who’s left school, works and contributes to family bills and / or family upkeep . I did none of those things.

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Swiftie1878 · 26/10/2025 20:37

PrettyPickle · 26/10/2025 20:00

Do you not considered that she may feel that she was being controlled and manipulated? And the person they tried to force on her was also being abusive to her from the sounds of it.

That is a relentless environment to be in. She is just trying to understand and find answers her parents clearly have not/cannot provide.

You are looking at this with an adult mind, she was a child trying to navigate her way through a traumatic upbringing.

She’s an adult now. She needs to get a grip.

PrettyPickle · 26/10/2025 20:00

Rainbows41 · 26/10/2025 19:48

Are you actually kidding me?
Your mum was an alcoholic and abusive to you, yet you find the orchestrated friendship they set up as having robbed you of your childhood ?
FFS. Get a grip

Do you not considered that she may feel that she was being controlled and manipulated? And the person they tried to force on her was also being abusive to her from the sounds of it.

That is a relentless environment to be in. She is just trying to understand and find answers her parents clearly have not/cannot provide.

You are looking at this with an adult mind, she was a child trying to navigate her way through a traumatic upbringing.

TakenewNn · 26/10/2025 19:49

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 19:41

Yes I’ve got kids

parents not alive

yes I’ve got a good support network

That actually makes sense. Your parents are not around for you to have these conversations with and so here you are ruminating over things that you cannot resolve with them.

has there been a situation with your children that has triggered these issues? How old are they?

Rainbows41 · 26/10/2025 19:48

Are you actually kidding me?
Your mum was an alcoholic and abusive to you, yet you find the orchestrated friendship they set up as having robbed you of your childhood ?
FFS. Get a grip

DarkYearForMySoul · 26/10/2025 19:41

It sounds like you had a hard situation from a very young age.
I wonder if your parents pushing you and this girl together, despite you not being suitable as friends, suggests they had an inkling they were failing you? But there actions totally missed your needs.
Lots of people have suggested therapy. The children of alcoholics need a chance to process why their primary care givers failed to give appropriate care. Often siblings process together. Do you have any family who saw the reality and how it impacted you? Can you talk to them? If not, finding appropriately qualified therapy could be really helpful.

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 19:41

TakenewNn · 26/10/2025 19:34

Op, do you have children? Are your parents still alive? Do you have a support network at all? Friends? Family?

Yes I’ve got kids

parents not alive

yes I’ve got a good support network

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TakenewNn · 26/10/2025 19:34

Op, do you have children? Are your parents still alive? Do you have a support network at all? Friends? Family?

DaisyChain505 · 26/10/2025 19:11

@Overlenders get yourself some therapy. You’re rightly angry about your childhood but holding onto it is only doing yourself wrong.

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 19:03

Swiftie1878 · 26/10/2025 18:58

This has to be a wind up/troll post now.

Ok being honest - I didn’t clean up her literal shit aged 10 - BUT - I had to deal with her extremely aggressive, drunken, unexpectedly angry behaviour at 10 ALONE - so some might say I was cleaning up her metaphorical shit!!

sorry - misleading - shouldn’t have said literal

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Swiftie1878 · 26/10/2025 18:58

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 18:43

Just after my parents pushed me and Anne together - I was 11 she was 10 - my dad made a point of saying he thought Anna was more mature than me .. I was offended . I mean at 10 I was literally cleaning up my alcoholic mum’s shit and then just had to get on with it !

This has to be a wind up/troll post now.

Pistolpunk · 26/10/2025 18:55

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 18:43

Just after my parents pushed me and Anne together - I was 11 she was 10 - my dad made a point of saying he thought Anna was more mature than me .. I was offended . I mean at 10 I was literally cleaning up my alcoholic mum’s shit and then just had to get on with it !

That's the crux right there as being a child forced into toxic and doing adult caring roles and then forced into friendships would cause these feelings now which are absolutely valid. You were a child but lost a childhood which is why I got you straight away. Also I think people forget that early experiences can and does shape us as adults. We are all immature as children and with experiance we gain maturity. I can completely understand why you feel the way you do and please reach out to friends to support you. As an adult you will be grieving the child you were and also dynamics of families, people and society in general. It will get easier but work through all the emotions and dont let anyone tell you that your feelings are not valid.

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 18:43

Just after my parents pushed me and Anne together - I was 11 she was 10 - my dad made a point of saying he thought Anna was more mature than me .. I was offended . I mean at 10 I was literally cleaning up my alcoholic mum’s shit and then just had to get on with it !

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Pistolpunk · 26/10/2025 18:28

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 16:12

Thank you sounds like you’ve got a sensible attitude with your kids

just out of interests - why do you think these issues surface more in middle age ?

I think it's been part of the change of life with being middle aged and peri menopause to be honest as traumas dealt with years ago can sneak up unexpectedly and what seems trivial to some people are far from it when in that moment as families and life can be complex. I used to hate the big family gatherings as a child as like you have experienced chaos and alcoholism with relatives.

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 18:15

Sorry thread should read Anna had a brother not neither

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Hotflushesandchilblains · 26/10/2025 17:43

It sounds like a very strong reaction to something which was annoying but hardly the end of the world- lots of parents try to foster friendships, especially if they are worried about their own children.

Has something happened in your life recently to remind you of this? Sometimes things will pull up memories from years ago. Or if we are feeling stressed or unhappy, our brain retrieves memories of times we felt like that before.

If it is a random thing that you are processing, fair enough. But if you think about it a lot or go over it a lot, you may need to talk to a professional about why that is happening. You mentioned attention - if you have ADHD or ADD you may also be prone to getting hung on on questions of fairness.. Most people dont like unfair behaviour, but people with ND find it particularly hard to cope with.

Bundleflower · 26/10/2025 17:07

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 15:53

I actually asked my dad why was this friendship with Anna forced. He gave me 2 different reasons on 2 separate occasions

he firstly said that “this” (our neighbourhood) wasn’t an area where there were many children so he and my mum thought it was better and safer for me to ‘go round as “2 rather than one”.

this doesn’t wash though as by 11 nearly 12 - which I was when the friendship was forced - kids let’s face it don’t tend to ‘roam the neighbourhood’ as much they stay in their rooms etc .. also I’ve managed alright until nearly 12 so surely I’ll manage fine going forward ?

Also he said that Anna was very likely given her social background to go to university and they wanted me to do the same so thought it was a good thing I hung round with Anna. I mean WTF?! tbh if I didn’t want to go to uni ‘naturally’ then forcing a friendship aged 11 IS NOT the way to get me to go!!!

Also my parents were both MUCH TOO OBSESSED with going to uni in general I thought

Maybe there was TWO reasons they wanted you to be friends?
’this doesn’t wash though’ - Christ alive. Your parents simply encouraged and fostered a friendship that you weren’t particularly invested in. End of drama.

CinnamonBuns67 · 26/10/2025 16:51

It's alright to feel miffed that a friendship was forced on you. But to feel furious and violated is OTT especially so many years later. Maybe "Anna Taylor" was forced to befriend you by her parents, they perhaps could see your mum was an alcoholic and aggressive and wanted Anna to look out for you, get you out of the house for a bit and that was their way of trying to help.

Overlenders · 26/10/2025 16:47

Sassylovesbooks · 26/10/2025 09:27

Did you at any point ever say to your parents 'I don't want to be friends with Anna' or 'I don't like Anna'? Not waving at Anna, just gave the impression you were being rude, not that you disliked her! Yes, clearly the friendship with Anna was engineered by both sets of parents. However, why did your parents feel the need to do this? Did you struggle socially to make friends? If you just did things like not wave at Anna, rather than say how you really felt, then your parents couldn't have known how you truly felt about the friendship. Perhaps they thought you lacked social skills? She's someone you never maintained a friendship with after secondary school, and I guess haven't seen since. The only people who know why they engineered the friendship, is your parents. Have you asked them why? Have you told them since you became an adult that you didn't like Anna?

When I said that Anna was being really patronising the once because she had a neither and I didn’t and insinuated I was fed up with Anna my mother simply shouted

Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!! - as if she absolutely didn’t want to hear me criticise Anna at all

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