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To pay or not to pay for everyone’s dinner if I invite them out for my 50th?

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tricerotopsrule · 25/10/2025 22:48

I was thinking of inviting around 15 pals out for dinner to a nice restaurant to mark my 50th birthday. Normally for ‘normal’ birthdays for mine or others we have all paid for our own meal. But given this is a big birthday I wondered if I should pay for everyone? When I’ve been out for other big birthdays sometimes folk have paid for everyone and other times people pay for themselves.

What’s the norm?? WWYD?

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No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 16:09

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 15:56

If you’re taking advice from Debtrettes then we move in very different circles. And I’m perfectly okay with that!

Maybe you and your friends aren’t genuinely happy to see each other. But we are, and we do socialise pretty much every week.

OP, if you are so mind-boggled and shocked at the notion that some people actually host, why did you post your question in the first place? Clearly you still seem in disbelief that some people lead social lives that don't always involve separate-check meetups at cheap restaurants.

Mercurial123 · 30/10/2025 16:05

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 15:57

We don't all go through life as the lowest common denominator.

That must be where I'm going wrong in life by not owning a copy... Great you do. Do you wear your tiara when hosting?

tricerotopsrule · 30/10/2025 15:59

Your comments are harsh and very black and white @minvee! There have been numerous people pointing this out but it seems that you are only accepting your own view. And trying to round up a group of Middle Aged women who have kids, jobs and aging parents is not a matter of being able to catch up any day of the week, far from it! I personally felt a real love and warmth when they all replied immediately on WhatsApp to say they’d def be there, one even said ‘I will move heaven and earth to be there and wouldn’t miss it for the world!’ and we are renowned for taking ages to try to get mutual dates for a get together.

It’s pretty sad that you’re minimising that.

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No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 15:57

Mercurial123 · 30/10/2025 15:00

This post is insane. How many people would look to Debretts for planning a birthday meal with friends?!

We don't all go through life as the lowest common denominator.

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 15:56

MossAndLeaves · 30/10/2025 14:40

A birthday is meant to be about the birthday person. If people don't value spending time with them enough to want to go they don't have to go. It's the same as when people have a birthday night out, friends fund it themselves and generally buy drinks for the person being celebrated.

Nowadays offering to pay for 15 peoples meals would just come off as pretentious, it's a birthday meal not a wedding.

The pretext for the party is irrelevant - birthday, wedding, Guy Fawkes Day, or just a Saturday night. The host pays.

Plus, it's pretty crass to hold a "celebrate meeeee!" event at other people's expense.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 15:56

minvee · 30/10/2025 15:45

Reading that Debretts list, there is actually nothing on there that isn't basic common sense. Or should be!

Personally, I think this line, "they don't have to come if they don't want to," is just a convenient cop out, but there you go. As is the, "everyone is just so delighted to see each other anyway." That may well be, but they can do that any day of the week.

If you’re taking advice from Debtrettes then we move in very different circles. And I’m perfectly okay with that!

Maybe you and your friends aren’t genuinely happy to see each other. But we are, and we do socialise pretty much every week.

minvee · 30/10/2025 15:45

Reading that Debretts list, there is actually nothing on there that isn't basic common sense. Or should be!

Personally, I think this line, "they don't have to come if they don't want to," is just a convenient cop out, but there you go. As is the, "everyone is just so delighted to see each other anyway." That may well be, but they can do that any day of the week.

tricerotopsrule · 30/10/2025 15:13

My mind is a bit blown by reading all the comments! I’ve taken them on board and thought about it and would have to say in my circle of friends we’ve always just paid for our own meals if we’ve gone out, even it’s for a special birthday, or paid for our own and also chipped in for the birthday persons meal. Nobody has ever questioned that! The reason I wasn’t sure what to do is cos my SIL paid for her partners 60th meal for about 20 folk but that was a set meal in a private room in a restaurant. It was the first time in my entire life someone had done that and I remember feeling quite mortified that she had paid so much for us all.

That’s the only occasion though and I honestly think if, after 50 years of being on this planet and going out with friends for meals, I was to suddenly say I’m paying for them ALL, they would say no you’re not, they’d insist on sending me money after it, and my pals who are struggling financially may feel under pressure to do the same. I’d also worry I was coming across as flash!

As I said up thread it’s ended up not being just one dinner out with 15 folk but now 3 diff meals out with 3 different friend groups, roughly adding up to 15 folk. One group said THEY want to take me out for dinner, and I remember when we went for one of their 50th meals we all paid for our own meal in a restaurant so I think they’d be like WTAF if I declared I was paying for everyone. Another friend group always just splits the bill equally too and has done for years, we did this at a recent 50th birthday meal. The other friend group isn’t so clear as it’s old work pals and some of their big birthdays have been in private venues or homes so they’ve paid for that. But the way I see it is that hiring a venue with finger food etc or hosting at home is very different to all going out for a meal in a restaurant. And if they really don’t want to go they don’t have to!

I agree with folk who say that a dinner with pals in a restaurant isn’t a formal ‘invitation’ thing, it’s being arranged on WhatsApp with folk having a say where we will eat etc. We’ve chosen somewhere that’s not crazy prices, that everyone knows and loves. I’ve said no gifts please and it’s just a way to catch up with good friends and I plan at all the diff meals to pay for all the drinks which feels like a good middle ground.

I can’t have it at home as I live quite far from many people and also don’t live in a big house. My main thing is to see it as an excuse to catch up with friends I’ve not seen for years and I’d hope none of them would only want to go if it was all transactional!

Incidentally everyone seems so excited just to catch up with each other and that’s the main reason we are meeting up, it’s long overdue with some groups and if they feel utterly offended if they then have to pay for their food in a restaurant then I think that would be weird as I would personally never ever feel like that if I went to someone’s birthday meal!

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HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 15:05

Mercurial123 · 30/10/2025 15:00

This post is insane. How many people would look to Debretts for planning a birthday meal with friends?!

I know. I genuinely laughed out loud when I read that!

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 15:04

minvee · 30/10/2025 14:44

If you specifically invite a group of people to a restaurant of your choice on a date you have determined, and if you are paying the bill for the group, then you are the host effectively. Does this even need spelling out? Why else are people there if you didn't invite them? They haven't just shown up by random chance. You don't need to have cooked the food or own the building to be able to take responsibility for an event in your name. People may not all know each other, in which case it's on you to introduce people, and also move around the table so that you at least get to chat to everyone. Make sure there is enough wine, or whatever people are drinking. If you have guests who are vegan, or only eat halal, bear this in mind when you're booking for your selected group. All this kind of thing.

This is very different to a friend or friends casually saying, "let's meet for dinner for a catch up."

Our birthday nights out are basically casual catch ups with friends. That’s the bit you can’t seem to understand. We generally do all know each other.

We don’t stand on ceremony or engage in any of the formal nonsense suggest by the poster quoting debrettes.

Mercurial123 · 30/10/2025 15:00

This post is insane. How many people would look to Debretts for planning a birthday meal with friends?!

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 15:00

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 14:44

According to Debretts, hosting in a restaurant means focusing on managing the flow of the evening, ensuring your guests are comfortable and engaged, and remaining calm and discreet even if things go wrong. You should make the reservation, greet guests warmly upon arrival, handle coats and bags, and then let them enjoy themselves while you manage the flow of the meal, keeping drinks topped up and making sure everyone is included in conversation.

Preparing for the event
Make a reservation:
Book the restaurant in advance and make any special requests needed for your guests (e.g., a quiet corner or specific dietary needs).

Prepare your guests:
If you know any of your guests have allergies or dietary restrictions, be sure to let the restaurant know in advance.

Set the tone:
Arrive on time to welcome your guests and help them get settled.

During the event
Greet your guests: Welcome them with a smile and a warm greeting.

Handle the logistics: Offer to take their coats and bags and guide them to the table.

Manage the conversation: Make sure everyone is included in the conversation and that no one is left out.

Stay calm and collected: Do not get flustered if a mistake is made or if there are any issues with the food.

Yeah, nobody I know is referring to Debrettes when organising a birthday meal.
What a bloody ridiculous list of ‘tasks’ 😂 Jesus Christ what century is this.

We turn up, order our own food and drinks and the conversation takes care of its self.

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 14:44

According to Debretts, hosting in a restaurant means focusing on managing the flow of the evening, ensuring your guests are comfortable and engaged, and remaining calm and discreet even if things go wrong. You should make the reservation, greet guests warmly upon arrival, handle coats and bags, and then let them enjoy themselves while you manage the flow of the meal, keeping drinks topped up and making sure everyone is included in conversation.

Preparing for the event
Make a reservation:
Book the restaurant in advance and make any special requests needed for your guests (e.g., a quiet corner or specific dietary needs).

Prepare your guests:
If you know any of your guests have allergies or dietary restrictions, be sure to let the restaurant know in advance.

Set the tone:
Arrive on time to welcome your guests and help them get settled.

During the event
Greet your guests: Welcome them with a smile and a warm greeting.

Handle the logistics: Offer to take their coats and bags and guide them to the table.

Manage the conversation: Make sure everyone is included in the conversation and that no one is left out.

Stay calm and collected: Do not get flustered if a mistake is made or if there are any issues with the food.

how to be the perfect host

How to be the Perfect Host • Debretts

As the most sociable weeks of the year approach, you will undoubtedly be contemplating hosting at least one dinner or lunch over the festive period. Many

https://debretts.com/how-to-be-the-perfect-host/

minvee · 30/10/2025 14:44

If you specifically invite a group of people to a restaurant of your choice on a date you have determined, and if you are paying the bill for the group, then you are the host effectively. Does this even need spelling out? Why else are people there if you didn't invite them? They haven't just shown up by random chance. You don't need to have cooked the food or own the building to be able to take responsibility for an event in your name. People may not all know each other, in which case it's on you to introduce people, and also move around the table so that you at least get to chat to everyone. Make sure there is enough wine, or whatever people are drinking. If you have guests who are vegan, or only eat halal, bear this in mind when you're booking for your selected group. All this kind of thing.

This is very different to a friend or friends casually saying, "let's meet for dinner for a catch up."

MossAndLeaves · 30/10/2025 14:40

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 14:33

If you invite people to "celebrate" you, they shouldn't be out of pocket. If you wouldn't charge them in your own home, why would it be OK to charge them in a restaurant??

A birthday is meant to be about the birthday person. If people don't value spending time with them enough to want to go they don't have to go. It's the same as when people have a birthday night out, friends fund it themselves and generally buy drinks for the person being celebrated.

Nowadays offering to pay for 15 peoples meals would just come off as pretentious, it's a birthday meal not a wedding.

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 14:33

MossAndLeaves · 30/10/2025 14:32

Where exactly do you think it's affordable for a regular person to pay for 15 people to eat? Even mcdonalds would cost about £200...

If you invite people to "celebrate" you, they shouldn't be out of pocket. If you wouldn't charge them in your own home, why would it be OK to charge them in a restaurant??

MossAndLeaves · 30/10/2025 14:32

MsAmerica · 25/10/2025 23:56

The norm is that if you invite, you pick up the tab yourself. Can't believe you're even asking that.
If you don't have a lot of money to spend, choose a cheap place that doesn't serve alcohol.

Where exactly do you think it's affordable for a regular person to pay for 15 people to eat? Even mcdonalds would cost about £200...

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 14:29

Arran2024 · 30/10/2025 14:17

Simply not true. You can host a table, or an area, or a room. For my dad's 90th he had half the restaurant and another 90th had the other half.

Edited

That’s different to just booking a table though.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 14:25

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 14:09

That's simply not correct. One can host at a single table. Even when one's guests are selecting their own food and ordering from the server.

I don’t see that as hosting. But we’re all allowed a different perspective 🤷🏼‍♀️

Arran2024 · 30/10/2025 14:17

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 10:48

You can choose to foot the bill but you cant host in a public restaurant you don’t own where there are other people present 😂😂

Simply not true. You can host a table, or an area, or a room. For my dad's 90th he had half the restaurant and another 90th had the other half.

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 14:09

That's simply not correct. One can host at a single table. Even when one's guests are selecting their own food and ordering from the server.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 14:06

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 13:51

Actually, this is incorrect.

Many commercial venues exist to take the place of our own homes for social purposes, from wedding venues to village halls to funeral homes. They allow people whose residences are small or who want different vibe/amenities/services to host events that in past eras would have taken place at home. Restaurants fall into this category.

If you booked out the whole restaurant for an event then you could be considered a host. Especially if you planned the menu so are dictating what people are eating.
Booking a table where people are ordering and choosing their own food? Not so much

No5ChalksRoad · 30/10/2025 13:51

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/10/2025 10:48

You can choose to foot the bill but you cant host in a public restaurant you don’t own where there are other people present 😂😂

Actually, this is incorrect.

Many commercial venues exist to take the place of our own homes for social purposes, from wedding venues to village halls to funeral homes. They allow people whose residences are small or who want different vibe/amenities/services to host events that in past eras would have taken place at home. Restaurants fall into this category.

Fizzy208 · 30/10/2025 11:42

Pay if you can afford it :)

minvee · 30/10/2025 11:31

I would argue people who say 'my way' (aka what billions around the globe would regard as perfectly normal) is 'transactional' or 'sad' have a problem accepting that their way is not the only way.