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To pay or not to pay for everyone’s dinner if I invite them out for my 50th?

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tricerotopsrule · 25/10/2025 22:48

I was thinking of inviting around 15 pals out for dinner to a nice restaurant to mark my 50th birthday. Normally for ‘normal’ birthdays for mine or others we have all paid for our own meal. But given this is a big birthday I wondered if I should pay for everyone? When I’ve been out for other big birthdays sometimes folk have paid for everyone and other times people pay for themselves.

What’s the norm?? WWYD?

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HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 01/11/2025 07:45

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 23:44

So, in YOUR experience I'm wrong.

But that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

It's a matter of basic courtesy. You don't put friends in situations where they're obliged to pay to please you. It seems to me that it's the "tone deaf wealthy posters" who would pull that stunt.

You aren’t wrong. But neither are we.

In MY social circle there has never been an expectation that the birthday girl/boy pays for everyone’s meal. It’s just not the done thing.
If you do it differently then good for you.

What is wrong is telling people they lack basic courtesy or calling them rude, entitled or crass.

Not everyone is wealthy enough to be able to cover the cost of a meal for 15 of their friends. In fact, I have friends who would struggle to cover the cost of a meal for 3 or 4 people. These are not young people either (another ridiculous assumption) they are people who are struggling with the cost of living, have been made redundant or have been dealt a truly terrible hand in life and have lost family members in very tragic circumstances or have suffered illnesses or injuries which limits their ability to work.

Some people on this thread would benefit from looking outside of their own bubble.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 01/11/2025 07:32

hopsalong · 31/10/2025 23:07

You’re 50, not 25. Of course you have to cover your guests’ meals! Anything else would be unthinkably rude in my book. But it’s your birthday, so the nice thing would be for your partner to cover it. And not just part of it, everything that people order while sitting at the table. My DH will be 50 next year and I imagine we’ll do something similar — with me paying.

She doesn’t HAVE to cover the cost at all. If you read the whole thread you will see that for many people this isn’t the norm.
The age is Irrelevant. Not all 50 year olds are wealthy enough to be able to cover the cost of a meal for all of their friends. Also, not all 50 year olds have a partner. I have a friend who was widowed by the time she was 50. She had very little disposable income as she’d been raising her children as a single parent.

The assumptions being made on this thread are becoming quite grating.

RampantIvy · 31/10/2025 23:59

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 23:44

So, in YOUR experience I'm wrong.

But that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

It's a matter of basic courtesy. You don't put friends in situations where they're obliged to pay to please you. It seems to me that it's the "tone deaf wealthy posters" who would pull that stunt.

No. I'm not wrong either.
What you do might be the done thing in your friendship group, but it isn't the done thing in mine and that of many people who have responded to this thread.

So, neither of us are wrong. If you had asked me to join you in a restaurant for a meal for your birthday I wouldn't expect you to pay for me.

Most of us can't afford to pay for 15 people's meals and drinks, which it is why it is not considered rude for people to pay for their own meals, and in some cases cover the birthday person's meal because that is customary amongst us. It is an extremely usual practice among the different friendship groups I'm in, so it isn't being tone deaf at all.

@hopsalong Great. You can afford it. Good for you. If you had bothered to read some of the posts on here you will realise that this doesn't happen in most friendship groups and there is no expectation that everyone should get their meals paid for.

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 23:44

RampantIvy · 31/10/2025 19:58

The clue is in your words "in my experience"

In my experience the person whose birthday it is doesn't pay for everyone else, and their friends have no expectation that they would.

Otherwise, to put it crudely, it's rather like: Come and fork over some money to do me homage.

No it isn't. It really isn't.

I see the tone deaf wealthy posters who live in big houses still don't understand that other people's friendship groups have different social norms that are acceptable to them.

So, in YOUR experience I'm wrong.

But that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

It's a matter of basic courtesy. You don't put friends in situations where they're obliged to pay to please you. It seems to me that it's the "tone deaf wealthy posters" who would pull that stunt.

hopsalong · 31/10/2025 23:07

You’re 50, not 25. Of course you have to cover your guests’ meals! Anything else would be unthinkably rude in my book. But it’s your birthday, so the nice thing would be for your partner to cover it. And not just part of it, everything that people order while sitting at the table. My DH will be 50 next year and I imagine we’ll do something similar — with me paying.

RampantIvy · 31/10/2025 22:33

"You people"

Good grief!

Kirbert2 · 31/10/2025 22:28

minvee · 31/10/2025 22:05

Would you people ever buy a round of drinks on any other day of the year?

You people? As in people who don't have a lot of money?

No. Not in my circle. Again, no one would be able to afford it.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 31/10/2025 22:18

minvee · 31/10/2025 22:05

Would you people ever buy a round of drinks on any other day of the year?

What do you mean by ‘you people’? Jesus Christ at least try and hide your disdain 🙄
Me and my friends are very generous with each other but in the opposite way to you. If it’s my friend’s birthday then I want to treat them. And they do the same.
We also treat each other throughout the year. I’m currently away working and I’ve bought my friend and her kids presents. I’ve actually gone out of my way to buy her son a local product i know he’d like.

minvee · 31/10/2025 22:05

Would you people ever buy a round of drinks on any other day of the year?

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 31/10/2025 21:57

minvee · 31/10/2025 20:26

Do the people who have to have birthdays in restaurants but just pay for themselves, ever provide anything like wine, a round of drinks, birthday cake?

No. If it’s a big birthday then their husband/wife/partner might bring a cake but not always.
A regular birthday might result in someone telling the restaurant and they often bring out a small cake for the birthday girl/boy.
The custom is also that people buy drinks for the birthday girl/boy, not the other way around.

Squirrelmirrel · 31/10/2025 20:48

minvee · 31/10/2025 20:26

Do the people who have to have birthdays in restaurants but just pay for themselves, ever provide anything like wine, a round of drinks, birthday cake?

No it's not up to the birthday person to 'provide' anything. You really don't get it do you? You're not 'hosting' anything, not every celebration needs a host. It's 2025. The group go out together to celebrate someone's birthday, and usually people buy drinks for the person who's birthday it is and sometimes, if someone suggests it beforehand, they cover the birthday persons meal. It's about making a friend feel special on their birthday, going along to celebrate with them and making sure they have a nice time.

Kirbert2 · 31/10/2025 20:33

minvee · 31/10/2025 20:26

Do the people who have to have birthdays in restaurants but just pay for themselves, ever provide anything like wine, a round of drinks, birthday cake?

Birthday cake is the norm in my circle. No wine or rounds of drinks.

minvee · 31/10/2025 20:26

Do the people who have to have birthdays in restaurants but just pay for themselves, ever provide anything like wine, a round of drinks, birthday cake?

cupfinalchaos · 31/10/2025 20:13

dimension2025 · 30/10/2025 00:45

@cupfinalchaosI just find your assumption that your way is the right and only way so odd, etiquette appears fairly subjective surely ? Amongst my friendship groups and associations people enjoy celebrating our friends.
I just find your post quite unpleasant about “anyone older than a teenager’
what a ghastly outlook on life and friendships

I’m interested to know why you think it’s ghastly to want to celebrate a birthday and treat people close to you because you’ve invited them?🤪 Is it ghastly because it isn’t what you do?

RampantIvy · 31/10/2025 19:58

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 18:57

Paying for a dinner if you're inviting it to honor yourself certainly is the norm in my experience.

Otherwise, to put it crudely, it's rather like: Come and fork over some money to do me homage.

The clue is in your words "in my experience"

In my experience the person whose birthday it is doesn't pay for everyone else, and their friends have no expectation that they would.

Otherwise, to put it crudely, it's rather like: Come and fork over some money to do me homage.

No it isn't. It really isn't.

I see the tone deaf wealthy posters who live in big houses still don't understand that other people's friendship groups have different social norms that are acceptable to them.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 31/10/2025 19:55

No5ChalksRoad · 31/10/2025 19:21

Then one invites fewer people.

I did type a sarcastic reply but decided to not take the piss, however tempting it was.

It might surprise you to hear that some people live in houses that are so small that a party of any size is impossible.

CrocusVase · 31/10/2025 19:35

No5ChalksRoad · 31/10/2025 19:21

Then one invites fewer people.

Or one meets up in a restaurant where everyone chips in, if that is the norm for one’s social group.

No5ChalksRoad · 31/10/2025 19:21

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 31/10/2025 19:11

Not everyone has a house big enough … this has already been addressed dozens of times 🙄

Then one invites fewer people.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 31/10/2025 19:11

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 19:04

Exactly! So you don't do it! You throw a party at your own house, where you control the budget and the menu. Or you find a restaurant that does a cheap brunch.
What one friend of mine did once was to have a party at a bar where, if memory serves, there was a clear implication that people would buy their own drinks. (It was a very disappointing party, by the way.)

Not everyone has a house big enough … this has already been addressed dozens of times 🙄

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 31/10/2025 19:10

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 18:57

Paying for a dinner if you're inviting it to honor yourself certainly is the norm in my experience.

Otherwise, to put it crudely, it's rather like: Come and fork over some money to do me homage.

I‘m sorry your friends don’t adore you. Mine love me and vice versa so I’m always happy to spend money to celebrate them on their birthday.

CrocusVase · 31/10/2025 19:04

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 19:01

Lol. You think I'm going to read 25 page of responses for something that's basically just a trivial etiquette question?
Just because people don't agree doesn't mean there's no traditional norm. People wear black to weddings now, but that doesn't mean it's the norm. If you expect people to pay, you should announce it upfront - but I still think it's tacky.

From your username you’re in the US.

This could well be something where cultural norms differ.

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 19:04

MossAndLeaves · 30/10/2025 14:32

Where exactly do you think it's affordable for a regular person to pay for 15 people to eat? Even mcdonalds would cost about £200...

Exactly! So you don't do it! You throw a party at your own house, where you control the budget and the menu. Or you find a restaurant that does a cheap brunch.
What one friend of mine did once was to have a party at a bar where, if memory serves, there was a clear implication that people would buy their own drinks. (It was a very disappointing party, by the way.)

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 19:01

outofofficeagain · 26/10/2025 10:08

”can’t believe you’re even asking that”

From this thread alone you must be able to see that there is no set rule.

I’ve been out for many many 50th birthday meals recently- never once has the birthday person paid.

if anything it was a higher standard of restaurant than normal

Lol. You think I'm going to read 25 page of responses for something that's basically just a trivial etiquette question?
Just because people don't agree doesn't mean there's no traditional norm. People wear black to weddings now, but that doesn't mean it's the norm. If you expect people to pay, you should announce it upfront - but I still think it's tacky.

MsAmerica · 31/10/2025 18:57

Baconking · 26/10/2025 05:27

It's clearly not the norm though.

Paying for a dinner if you're inviting it to honor yourself certainly is the norm in my experience.

Otherwise, to put it crudely, it's rather like: Come and fork over some money to do me homage.

minvee · 30/10/2025 22:22

The woman was literally a stalker and she eventually went off grid.