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To pay or not to pay for everyone’s dinner if I invite them out for my 50th?

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tricerotopsrule · 25/10/2025 22:48

I was thinking of inviting around 15 pals out for dinner to a nice restaurant to mark my 50th birthday. Normally for ‘normal’ birthdays for mine or others we have all paid for our own meal. But given this is a big birthday I wondered if I should pay for everyone? When I’ve been out for other big birthdays sometimes folk have paid for everyone and other times people pay for themselves.

What’s the norm?? WWYD?

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MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 22:38

dimension2025 · 28/10/2025 22:28

How unpleasant and entitled

Why?
It’s OP’s occasion.

Kirbert2 · 28/10/2025 22:32

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 22:25

So don’t arrange a dinner.

Why not? That's completely normal in my circle because no one is wealthy and can afford to pay for dinner for everyone and we'd never go out for dinner otherwise because it's for birthdays etc only as a treat.

dimension2025 · 28/10/2025 22:28

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 22:25

So don’t arrange a dinner.

How unpleasant and entitled

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 22:25

RampantIvy · 28/10/2025 20:17

Why of course? Have you not read the many posts as to why people can't or don't pay? Or why they can't host at home?

Does it not depend on what is customary among your friendship group?

Does it mean that if you don't have a lot of money you can't celebrate your birthday with like minded friends?

Edited

So don’t arrange a dinner.

Kangarooney · 28/10/2025 21:56

I think if you decide to pay you should pay in advance for say , set meal and wine for the table . Otherwise you may have a situation where someone wants to pay for you because it’s your birthday , and others aren’t expecting to / can’t afford to or whatever. The embarrassing thing would be for one guest to want to pay and end up paying for everyone who doesn’t/cant . If there are 15 of you the restaurant would probably appreciate a pre order anyway.

RampantIvy · 28/10/2025 21:30

Arran2024 · 28/10/2025 21:18

Yes, but they shouldn't choose a venue and date and send out invites. They should discuss where/when to go with everyone.

And that is what happens in my circle. I don't "send out invitations" when I ask friends to join me for a birthday meal in a restaurant. I just discuss it with them informally, and we discuss where to go among ourselves.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 28/10/2025 21:25

Arran2024 · 28/10/2025 21:18

Yes, but they shouldn't choose a venue and date and send out invites. They should discuss where/when to go with everyone.

Who sends out formal invites for a meal?!
In my experience it’s a WhatsApp message saying ‘ I’m planning on going to x on y date for my birthday, let me know if you fancy it so I can book a table’.

Nobody is being forced to attend.
If you got the above message would you only attend if they were paying for you?
Are you only allowed to have a preference on where you’d like to eat on your birthday if you’re wealthy?

Arran2024 · 28/10/2025 21:18

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 28/10/2025 20:24

So poor people and those with small houses don’t ever celebrate their birthday??

Yes, but they shouldn't choose a venue and date and send out invites. They should discuss where/when to go with everyone.

ConverseAddict · 28/10/2025 20:31

I would expect to pay if invited to a meal. I would expect it to be a reasonably priced place though and to choose my own food.
If you wanted to pay for something I might do shared starters for the table or dessert.

Kirbert2 · 28/10/2025 20:29

I've never been to a birthday meal where I haven't paid myself. I wouldn't expect someone to pay for my meal just because they've invited me for their birthday.

No one I know would be able to afford that.

RampantIvy · 28/10/2025 20:27

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 28/10/2025 20:24

So poor people and those with small houses don’t ever celebrate their birthday??

The privileged just have no idea. Do they.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 28/10/2025 20:24

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 20:09

Of course you pay. Or host at home?

So poor people and those with small houses don’t ever celebrate their birthday??

Greensquarecold · 28/10/2025 20:20

Arran2024 · 28/10/2025 18:05

There is a huge difference between arranging a night out with friends to celebrate your birthday, where you all get to choose the date and venue, and organising an event which you invite people to.

So, for my most recent big birthday, I invited a load of people to afternoon tea. I chose the date, the venue and good and I sent out nice, card invitations. I had decorations on the tables and an open bar. And I paid for this.

But I also got together with a group of 5 friends where we all discussed it in a WhatsApp group, chose a venue and date that suited us all, and I didn't pay for anyone but me.

Imo if you make it an invitation to your party then you pay. If you suggest a less formal get together you don't.

If you are a guest and not paying then you take a decent present. If you are paying you can be less generous with the present.

Yes that makes sense.

RampantIvy · 28/10/2025 20:17

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 20:09

Of course you pay. Or host at home?

Why of course? Have you not read the many posts as to why people can't or don't pay? Or why they can't host at home?

Does it not depend on what is customary among your friendship group?

Does it mean that if you don't have a lot of money you can't celebrate your birthday with like minded friends?

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 20:09

Of course you pay. Or host at home?

Kendodd · 28/10/2025 20:08

Top tip OP
If you don't plan to paying for everyone, make it clear when inviting.
If you do plan on paying for everyone, don't tell them in advance, leave them to think they might be paying. Just pay the bill when it comes so people don't take the piss.

Kendodd · 28/10/2025 20:03

zazazaaar · 25/10/2025 23:10

Literally never have been to a meal paid by the birthday person and Im 52 and go out all the time.
I have countless times paid for the birthday person's meal.

Me too

RampantIvy · 28/10/2025 19:18

There is a huge difference between arranging a night out with friends to celebrate your birthday, where you all get to choose the date and venue, and organising an event which you invite people to.

And this is exactly what my frirnds and I do.

Happyher · 28/10/2025 18:37

Is it a set menu or a la carte? I wouldn’t pay if it’s a la carte as you don’t know what the full bill will look like. I paid for a party of 11 at my sons 21st but it was a set menu and I advised people they would have for their own drinks

CheeseWisely · 28/10/2025 18:12

Totally depends on your circle. I have a few very comfortable friends who would pay for everyone for a big celebration, but lots of others for whom everyone would pay for themselves and not bat an eyelid. I would never accept an invite if I wasn’t prepared to pay for myself, it’s just a nice surprise on the day if the host covers it.

Arran2024 · 28/10/2025 18:05

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 28/10/2025 14:04

What would you suggest the other options are in this scenario.
A good friend of mine lives payslip to payslip. He has zero savings and very little disposable income after he’s paid his bills and mortgage.
His house is tiny so can’t have a party and there’s no garden or outside space. His birthday is in November and we live in the north of England where it rains a lot and already feels like winter.

He’s suggested a meal for his birthday. There will probably be between 8-10 of us. He can’t afford to pay for us all. According to you he shouldn’t be inviting us out if he can’t pay for us all.
What should I suggest he does instead?

There is a huge difference between arranging a night out with friends to celebrate your birthday, where you all get to choose the date and venue, and organising an event which you invite people to.

So, for my most recent big birthday, I invited a load of people to afternoon tea. I chose the date, the venue and good and I sent out nice, card invitations. I had decorations on the tables and an open bar. And I paid for this.

But I also got together with a group of 5 friends where we all discussed it in a WhatsApp group, chose a venue and date that suited us all, and I didn't pay for anyone but me.

Imo if you make it an invitation to your party then you pay. If you suggest a less formal get together you don't.

If you are a guest and not paying then you take a decent present. If you are paying you can be less generous with the present.

RampantIvy · 28/10/2025 17:48

cupfinalchaos · 28/10/2025 16:27

Omg of course you pay! I wouldn’t even mention you were footing the bill, in the same way you wouldn’t ask people to bring cash for a meal at a wedding!

OMG, of course it isn't a given that you pay.

Read the room.

Mercurial123 · 28/10/2025 16:33

cupfinalchaos · 28/10/2025 16:27

Omg of course you pay! I wouldn’t even mention you were footing the bill, in the same way you wouldn’t ask people to bring cash for a meal at a wedding!

OMG... no because YOU pay doesn't mean everyone should do what you do.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 28/10/2025 16:33

cupfinalchaos · 28/10/2025 16:27

Omg of course you pay! I wouldn’t even mention you were footing the bill, in the same way you wouldn’t ask people to bring cash for a meal at a wedding!

A meal in a restaurant isn’t the same as a wedding.
And if you read the whole thread you can see it’s not just a case of you pay… lots of people wouldn’t expect the birthday girl/boy to pay.

Not everyone can afford to foot the whole bill 🙄 a concept which is obviously lost on many people.

cupfinalchaos · 28/10/2025 16:27

Omg of course you pay! I wouldn’t even mention you were footing the bill, in the same way you wouldn’t ask people to bring cash for a meal at a wedding!