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Am I a dickhead, friend and her child.

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amiadickhead · 25/10/2025 20:10

I have a group of friends, all women in their late 20s/early 30s. We maybe meet up about 4 times a year. Sometimes husbands and partners will join if they're around and sometimes not. It is usually around 6 -8 people can make each one, someone throws out a date if you can make it fab if not then you catch the next one, there's usually very little drama, until Lucy.

Two of the couples have one child each, Martin and Angela have a DD we'll call Lucy and John and Linda have a DD we'll call Kate. No one else has children.

For our most recent meets, Martin and Angela have insisted on bringing Lucy, while John will either stay home with Kate or they'll get a babysitter. It's reached a stage where if someone suggests a dinner, Angela will say no it has to be lunch for Lucy and Martin to join. If someone suggests going for a drink on only a days notice, we're told oh that's not child friendly.

Lucy is two, and while her dad / Angela's partner is a nice man he's only in the friend group because he's with Angela, no one has a relationship with him outside of this, some feel he should stay home if they can't get a sitter. Anyway, people are getting annoyed that they are forcing their way all the time and it means plans don't get followed up on because we don't want to hang out with a 2 year old we want grown up time.

They won't take any hints and seem to think the world revolves around their little girl. Is there a way to phrase sorry this occassion is for adults only without being rude?

Am I/the rest of the group unreasonable to not want to spend our limited time together and adult catch ups with Lucy?

I think Kate's parents are most annoyed as they arrange care because because they want an adult night out with mostly child free friends,c if they cant Kate's dad stays home and they feel Lucy's parents should do the same.

AIBU?

OP posts:
arcticpandas · 25/10/2025 20:33

amiadickhead · 25/10/2025 20:19

I think the first time this happened we were a bit blindsided and kind of felt guilty because Lucy was younger, about 10 months I think. It's been hard to row back from.

Time to stop these entitled parents to decide over your outings. When mine were younger I let my husband go by himself to see friends in the evening if we couldn't get a sitter. No way I would have tried to change plans in order to include my children. How selfish and selfabsorbed.. and you are all being unreasonable changing your plans.

Zempy · 25/10/2025 20:33

Yeah you need to plan things that are totally not child friendly and stick to it.

GreenBlorgle · 25/10/2025 20:33

Your friend group is like a wet lettuce convention, OP.

I will never understand why so many Mners come on here to complain about other people’s behaviour when they refuse to do anything about it

Blessedbethefruitloopss · 25/10/2025 20:30

“X and I (another group member) are going to Y restaurant for dinner. Anyone want to join us?”

This way you are not asking for input into the plans, you are asking whether they want to join you. My friend does this all the time.

No5ChalksRoad · 25/10/2025 20:30

“We want an adult-only gathering on Friday, sorry.”

Supersimkin7 · 25/10/2025 20:30

Go ahead with your plans, they’ll get the idea soon.

KTheGrey · 25/10/2025 20:27

An adult meet up isn’t all about Lucy. If Angela never wants to leave the house again without her pfb then she doesn’t need to come. Just make it explicit; say you are free for an adult only catch up on the evening occasions, and let Angela set up lunches if she wants.

GoldMerchant · 25/10/2025 20:24

"We were thinking we would have an adults only meet up this time - so that's why we've opted for dinner. Let us know if you can make it!"

I'd start specifically framing each invite as either families welcome or adults only (most adults would take the hint that dinner at 8 is the latter).

WiddlinDiddlin · 25/10/2025 20:24

Make the venue/type of event the prominent thing..

'We're all going out for dinner to xyz, these are the available dates...'

So if you get a 'oh lets do lunch' you say 'maybe we'll do a lunch next time but this time, we all want to go to dinner at xxx, sorry if you can't make it'.

The event is happening, at the time and the venue its happening at - if thats not child friendly, tough tittie they can find a sitter or one stays at home or not come, so they DO have options.

Might need to be one person organising it so if they say 'oh but can't we do lunch instead' you can say 'I am organising a child free evening meal, if you'd like to organise a daytime kid friendly meet up, feel free...' .

amiadickhead · 25/10/2025 20:19

Pranksters · 25/10/2025 20:14

Bit surely you go for a drink or dinner anyway? Why are you letting Angela stop you? Just say ‘oh sorry, maybe next time’. Stop letting Angela dictate it.

I think the first time this happened we were a bit blindsided and kind of felt guilty because Lucy was younger, about 10 months I think. It's been hard to row back from.

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AliceTheCamelHasTheHumpSoGoAliceGoBomBomBom · 25/10/2025 20:15

I would probably give one more chance and post "adult only dinner at x venue on y day" if they complain, I would probably make a separate group chat and don't add them to it tbh. I can't be arsed with people like that though.

Cherrysoup · 25/10/2025 20:15

When they say it needs to be lunch because of Lucy, tell them you’ll see them next time and forge ahead with the evening plans. Don’t let them stop you doing the adult event, they don’t have to come. You say if cant make it, it’s no big deal, so a bright and breezy message eg ‘Oh don’t worry if you can’t get a babysitter, see you next time’. They’ll soon realise!

Pranksters · 25/10/2025 20:14

Bit surely you go for a drink or dinner anyway? Why are you letting Angela stop you? Just say ‘oh sorry, maybe next time’. Stop letting Angela dictate it.

Eenameenadeeka · 25/10/2025 20:13

I think people just need to start saying, "Sorry that doesn't work for you guys, but we aren't available to meet for lunch this time. Anyone who is free for dinner, let's meet at xyz" and have some dinners as well as lunches.

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