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To ask you to swerve Shein & Temu

587 replies

DoNoTakeNo · 25/10/2025 18:12

This Christmas?
I know it’s mainly a cost thing but if it’s achievable, can people possibly manage with less stuff?

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UncertainPerson · 25/10/2025 22:43

Watch Buy Now on Netflix!

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:42

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:40

But you just said that you don’t have any way of avoiding of goods linked to Chinese supply chains? So how exactly are you not buying good made by slave labour?

Where did I say "I don't have any way of avoiding good linked to Chinese supply chains", please?

I said I make every effort to avoid it. In most cases I can easily avoid it by buying second hand.

Once again, I will ask: where else do you think slavery is acceptable?

DrowningInSyrup · 25/10/2025 22:40

If you can swerve posting ridiculously patronising threads, then maybe we can talk.

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:40

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:37

Which goods do I buy "all day long" from chains linked to slave labour, please? I buy very little day to day or even week to week (not counting food). And when I do, it is mainly second hand.

Again you haven't answered my question: where else do you think slavery is acceptable?

But you just said that you don’t have any way of avoiding of goods linked to Chinese supply chains? So how exactly are you not buying good made by slave labour?

ChickpeasOnEarth · 25/10/2025 22:39

ninjahamster · 25/10/2025 22:22

But why would a top from Shein be more likely to end up in landfill than a top from Next?
Or a manicure kit from Temu be more likely to end up in landfill than one from Boots?

Because cheaper shite from Shein and Temu probably won't last as long.
Or the people who buy it are more likely to throw it away and just buy another manicure kit the next Christmas, knowing they can get another cheap one as a present.
I honestly don't understand how people can care so little about the planet and the slavery that we are paying for.

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:37

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:35

Ok so you buy goods all day long linked to Chinese supply chains and slavery. But like to virtue signal about two brands in particular.

Got it.

Hoensyly, so predictable from the ultra woke crowd. None of their ‘morals’ ever stand up to scrutiny.

Which goods do I buy "all day long" from chains linked to slave labour, please? I buy very little day to day or even week to week (not counting food). And when I do, it is mainly second hand.

Again you haven't answered my question: where else do you think slavery is acceptable?

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:35

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:33

I didn't say I had. I said I make every effort to avoid it.

There is no excuse for knowingly buying something from a platform like Temu which you know is rife with slave produced goods just because it's cheap.

How about you answer my question: where else do you think slavery is acceptable?

Ok so you buy goods all day long linked to Chinese supply chains and slavery. But like to virtue signal about two brands in particular.

Got it.

Hoensyly, so predictable from the ultra woke crowd. None of their ‘morals’ ever stand up to scrutiny.

ninjahamster · 25/10/2025 22:34

utamea · 25/10/2025 22:33

But your kids are grown up? So they can understand they don’t need presents?

Also, in your earlier post you refer to “beauty bits” that your don’t buy from Shein/Temu. These aren’t necessary items. Why buy them? The beauty industry is a con anyway.

Oh I don’t wear make up.
But my daughters do. And beauty bits I also mean to cover toiletries like deodorant, shampoo, shower gel.

utamea · 25/10/2025 22:33

ninjahamster · 25/10/2025 21:18

Not things I personally need, no. Presents for my family.,

But your kids are grown up? So they can understand they don’t need presents?

Also, in your earlier post you refer to “beauty bits” that your don’t buy from Shein/Temu. These aren’t necessary items. Why buy them? The beauty industry is a con anyway.

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:33

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:30

But tell us how you have managed to stop buying everything that is linked to Chinese supply chains. It is a major achievement which we’d like to know about. So go on, how have you done it?

I didn't say I had. I said I make every effort to avoid it.

There is no excuse for knowingly buying something from a platform like Temu which you know is rife with slave produced goods just because it's cheap.

How about you answer my question: where else do you think slavery is acceptable?

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 25/10/2025 22:31

ninjahamster · 25/10/2025 19:02

Like I said, it makes me uncomfortable. But I do want people to have gifts at Christmas.
Many other companies also have connections to child labour. Nestle, new look, h and m, Apple…

I’d be really upset if a hard up relative felt they had to get me anything, and it would be massively compounded if they’d spent money they couldn’t afford buying me planet-destroying child labour produced shite from Temu and Shein.

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:31

ninjahamster · 25/10/2025 22:29

Define unnecessary?

Are socks unnecessary?
Period pants?
cutlery?
screwdrivers?
tape measures?
wellington boots?
pyjamas?
sunglasses?
reading glasses?

Well manicure kits for one.

Advent calendars and stocking fillers for adult children for another.

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:30

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:26

I make every effort to avoid doing so. For example, most of the clothes I buy are second hand as is my phone.

There is absolutely no excuse for buying unnecessary stuff from Temu when you know there is slave labour in the chain. Absolutely none.

For what other reasons do you find slavery acceptable?

But tell us how you have managed to stop buying everything that is linked to Chinese supply chains. It is a major achievement which we’d like to know about. So go on, how have you done it?

ninjahamster · 25/10/2025 22:29

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:26

I make every effort to avoid doing so. For example, most of the clothes I buy are second hand as is my phone.

There is absolutely no excuse for buying unnecessary stuff from Temu when you know there is slave labour in the chain. Absolutely none.

For what other reasons do you find slavery acceptable?

Define unnecessary?

Are socks unnecessary?
Period pants?
cutlery?
screwdrivers?
tape measures?
wellington boots?
pyjamas?
sunglasses?
reading glasses?

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:26

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:23

Do you have stopped buying everything made in China? Do enlighten us as to how you are extricating your purchasing from Products linked to Chinese supply chains.

Or are you just virtue signalling.

I make every effort to avoid doing so. For example, most of the clothes I buy are second hand as is my phone.

There is absolutely no excuse for buying unnecessary stuff from Temu when you know there is slave labour in the chain. Absolutely none.

For what other reasons do you find slavery acceptable?

Tollington · 25/10/2025 22:24

Buy cheap, buy twice

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:23

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:18

Sorry but this argument is totally fatuous.

There is NO valid excuse to use slavery in this day and age.

Absolutely none.

You certainly don't get to use slavery to bring yourself "a little bit of joy".

I mean what the actual fuck. What else is it ok to use slaves for as long as it's cheap.

Do you have stopped buying everything made in China? Do enlighten us as to how you are extricating your purchasing from Products linked to Chinese supply chains.

Or are you just virtue signalling.

DiscoBeat · 25/10/2025 22:22

I agree totally. Please shop responsibly. We need less stuff and more thought.

ninjahamster · 25/10/2025 22:22

Screamingabdabz · 25/10/2025 22:16

“Elitist” ha what a joke. If you saw my life that’s the first time I’d ever be called that.

I haven’t got a pot to piss in but I’d rather go without unnecessary future-landfill crap than be a proud sponsor of human slavery and a wasteful consumer of the earth’s resources.

It’s called having integrity.

But why would a top from Shein be more likely to end up in landfill than a top from Next?
Or a manicure kit from Temu be more likely to end up in landfill than one from Boots?

MossAndLeaves · 25/10/2025 22:21

This is worrying as many things on amazon seem to be resold temu items too

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 22:20

Digdongdoo · 25/10/2025 22:14

Don't come crying when Temu etc capture the markets entirely and then drive prices up. Because that is what will happen. This cheap crap will become expensive crap. Careful what you wish for.

Eh? Have you been hibernating for the last 30 years since online shopping has taken off? You seem to not have a clue about this works.

Happyhappymeee · 25/10/2025 22:19

ConnectingPoint · 25/10/2025 22:05

Oh come on…a school with NO pens and pencils…

And if they really haven't, the children can't write, leaders would soon know.

Meanwhile you are filling a very basic gap with pens and pencils that maybe toxic. If a child is ill, or a parent complains about unethically sourced products, do you really think your excellent (can't even plan for the school to have pencils) leaders are going to defend you?

I was given 23 pencils for a class of 31 so yes there are schools that don’t have enough resources for all their pupils and god forbid if some get lost - there aren’t any to replace them! You clearly haven’t worked in a school if you think we’d get away with saying children can’t write becuase we don’t have the resources. If a parent would ever like to donate an ethically sourced box of pencils to a class so I wouldn’t have to use my own salary I would be delighted. Somehow I don’t think that’s likely to happen though.

ninjahamster · 25/10/2025 22:19

Digdongdoo · 25/10/2025 22:13

Spending more or buying more items?

I think I probably buy far less items at Xmas than the average person.Ditto Xmas food. No xmas trips out like pantomimes or light trails. No real xmas tree. Decorations years old.
I don’t buy from Temu so there is loads to open, I buy so there are some things to open.

Bagsintheboot · 25/10/2025 22:18

Jumpingthruhoops · 25/10/2025 21:57

And, so what!? You know, it's OK for people to just want things that might bring them a little joy!? For however momentarily that may be...

Sorry but this argument is totally fatuous.

There is NO valid excuse to use slavery in this day and age.

Absolutely none.

You certainly don't get to use slavery to bring yourself "a little bit of joy".

I mean what the actual fuck. What else is it ok to use slaves for as long as it's cheap.

Screamingabdabz · 25/10/2025 22:16

SharpOliveUser · 25/10/2025 22:07

No - stop being elitist. People will shop where they can afford to shop. Just because you have less money doesnt mean you ‘deserve’ less things. These corporations will prosper whatever the common person does so just stop with your trying to save the world - it makes no difference

“Elitist” ha what a joke. If you saw my life that’s the first time I’d ever be called that.

I haven’t got a pot to piss in but I’d rather go without unnecessary future-landfill crap than be a proud sponsor of human slavery and a wasteful consumer of the earth’s resources.

It’s called having integrity.

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