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Peoplecoveredinfish · 25/10/2025 13:12

I was prescribed testosterone by gynaecologist on 16/9. I have chased this three times, and had no response. I’ve still had no response, but I see from my record that the practice has written to the gynae. They’ve been pretty good about menopause, but this is a shitty misogynist policy.

TLDR: We don’t prescribe testosterone for women because it would be off licence. We prescribe off licence medication all the time, but we won’t prescribe this one, because we aren’t familiar with it and we don’t think women really need it. We think women need counselling for their made up symptoms. Even though we are not specialists and the specialist has asked us to do this, we think we know better.

The actual letter…

We have recently been receiving an increasing number of letters from the menopause clinics requesting us to prescribe testosterone for patients who are menopausal but have an intact uterus and ovaries and feel their menopausal symptoms are not being fully controlled on Oestrogen replacement therapy.
As you are aware, this medication is not licensed for women in the UK, so a clinician can only prescribe it off licence.
While there are many drugs that GPs do prescribe off licence, these are medications that we are familiar with, and there is known evidence to prove their efficacy and safety.
The GMC guidance around Good medical practice clearly states that “14 You must recognise and work within the limits of your competence. 16 In providing clinical care you must: a) prescribe medicine or treatment, including repeat prescriptions, only when you have adequate knowledge of the patient’s health, and are satisfied that the medicine or treatment serve the patient’s needs, b) provide effective treatments based on the best available evidence.”
Also “You are responsible for the prescriptions that you sign. You must only prescribe medicine when you have adequate knowledge of your patient’s health. And you must be satisfied that the medicine serves your patient’s need.”
The British Menopause Society states “Randomised clinical trials of testosterone to date have not demonstrated the beneficial effects of testosterone therapy for cognition, mood, energy, and musculoskeletal health. Further better designed studies are required with these health issues as primary outcome measures as some individuals report improvement of these symptoms. Until these data are available, the primary indication for testosterone should therefore be for HSDD following a biopsychosocial approach.”
We are thus unable to continue issuing testosterone prescriptions to our patients whom you have seen in clinic and advise they need testosterone. We expect you as the secondary care specialist in this area to manage these prescriptions and continue to issue and monitor their safety in those patients.
We would kindly request that you avoid telling our patients to contact the surgery for the GP to continue the prescriptions for testosterone. Furthermore, any letters we receive requesting this, will be returned with a TCS letter.

OP posts:
runawaywiththecircus · 25/10/2025 13:56

Is a private prescription an option, OP? You can get testosterone via Newson Clinic even if you don’t have your other HRT from them.

justasking111 · 25/10/2025 13:56

Fixed policy at my GP. You'll have to go private through your consultant

wombat1a · 25/10/2025 13:55

GP seems reasonable to me, it's off-licence, they are not qualififed whereas the specialist is - specialist should take the responsibility here.

chipsticksmammy · 25/10/2025 13:55

Oh and a consultant wrote to my GP at the time, told them to prescribe HRT, refer me for scans and put me on a list for counselling due to the mess the GP had made of my mental health with their denial of treatment.

I was met with a - No, you’re not 45 yet.

HeyBert · 25/10/2025 13:53

Problem is, these specialists write to the GP and insist on prescriptions, but pretty much then leave it to the GP. The specialist should be monitoring with bloods and follow up appointments and just seem to send the letter off thinking ‘job done’.
GPs aren’t able to monitor these patients as they are general practitioners, not specialists.

chipsticksmammy · 25/10/2025 13:53

The GP is correct here.

I have one GP who is trained and happy to prescribe at my surgery. The wait to see her is months and months.

She prescribed it to me, but I was one of the 60% of women for whom it doesn’t work. I just have hairy thighs and even less sex drive than before.

I think all GPs need significant retraining in menopause. I’ve been peri since I was 38, I believe, had HRT through the GP denied to me until I was 45. Why the actual fuck I ticked over into peri enough to be believed the night of my birthday I have no idea.

I have paid thousands in private prescriptions, consultations and scans. The NHS has failed all women in this regard and it continues to do so. The knock on effects of joint pain, life limiting periods, anti depressant usage and suicidal thoughts are COMPLETELY avoidable and utterly heart breaking.

The scam of supplements and health shop cures also needs to be stopped in its tracks.

I would love to have all HRT medications and any others reviewed, understood and correctly prescribed to all women.

Hons123 · 25/10/2025 13:45

Please don't lose your 'shit'. Speak to your GP in a civil manner - when I was young and my dc had pneumonia, I lost my shit at our GP, was branded 'aggressive/unreasonable' and de-registered. The GP refused to prescribe antibiotics, I took my dc to A&E, textbook pneumonia was diagnosed, antibiotics prescribed, GP was in the wrong, but I was the one who was de-registered and had to find a new GP. Unfortunately it goes on your record and if you are 'unreasonable' your future concerns might not be taken seriously by subsequent doctors.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 25/10/2025 13:43

Do they not just mean that if the specialist thinks you should have it, they should be the ones prescribing it?

PinkiOcelot · 25/10/2025 13:43

foodtoorder · 25/10/2025 13:20

This is a fair and valid response from the GP surgery.
If the specialist clinic/consultant recommends it, let them issue it under their specialist area of practice/knowledge.

You wouldn't want to be issued medication the prescriber isn't confident about or aren't familiar with surely?
They are simply asking the specialist service to take responsibility for it as it's their area of practice.

No it really isn’t. The OP has been prescribed a medication by a consultant who specialises in that area. GPs are general and not specialist so should follow the guidance of an actual consultant.

There is such a thing as a shared care agreement, which the consultant fills in and sends off to the surgery. The hospital will prescribe and monitor first, then pass this over to the surgery. The shared care agreement is held on the patient notes.

Its probably expensive and the GP surgery probably don’t want to fund it.

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 25/10/2025 13:41

In an ideal world all GPs would be able to treat many more conditions and I understand your frustration, but they are "general" practitioners, they have broad knowledge, not in depth knowledge of menopause, dermatology, hematology etc etc and should refer to specialists.

Your GP is not the issue here they have policies they need to work within. I think it is fair for the GP to ask the gyn to prescribe if they feel they don't have the expertise/training.

I've had similar before the ds. We asked the GP to write a referral letter which we took to a private specialist, the specialist wrote the prescription for the medication the GP couldn't prescribe, but the GP did shared care by prescribing the more routine medications the specialist recommended and they could, GP also did blood tests for us. We visited the specialist each time we needed a review/new prescription which was a pain in the arse as they were over an hours drive away from home so he missed quite a bit of school each time.

IkaBaar · 25/10/2025 13:41

Why can’t the gynaecologist prescribe it for you? I can understand a GP not wanting to prescribe a medication they don’t feel competent to prescribe. Having said that I feel for you stuck between a gynaecologist who wants the GP to do it, and the ago who doesn’t want to.

oldclock · 25/10/2025 13:41

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 25/10/2025 13:18

Shouldn’t GP’s get trained and educated in this treatment that could be needed by a significant chunk of their patients?

Not if the treatment isnt evidence based.

MajesticWhine · 25/10/2025 13:41

YABU. GP’s policy is reasonable; it’s not within their remit to prescribe an off-license medication or monitor the effects. This might change if the evidence becomes available and NICE guidelines are updated. Could you write to the gynae and ask for the prescription?

SingingOcean · 25/10/2025 13:41

I went to the GP last week hoping for a discussion about testosterone. She said no, it would need a referral to the Menopause Clinic. I agreed to try the Blissel (sp?) gel in the first instance :(

However, I would love, love, love to lose my shit at the GP receptionist who has to be the nastiest woman I have ever met.

Tistheseason17 · 25/10/2025 13:36

GP - General Practitioner.
Not specialist.
They cannot be specialists in every medical area. That is why there are specialists, that is why there are hospital drugs/off licence drugs.
Don't lose your shit at a GP who has trained for 10 years to help you to a high standard on 99% of things a specialist cannot help you with. Specialists only know the remit they specialised in.Try asking your testosterone specialist to prescribe the drug THEY recommended. Lots of lazy specialists instructing GPs to do something they are neither funded nor qualified to do. Bet your specialist could not help you with an urgent suspected cancer pathway for lung cancer, or treat necrotising fasciitis or tongue cancer or skin lesions.
People really need to understand how bloody amazing GPs are.
Don't get me wrong and dont jump on me, I know there are shoddy ones out there but I work with 8 amazing humans who happen to be GPs.

Cynic17 · 25/10/2025 13:35

Not sure why anyone should "lose their shit" at a qualified professional who is behaving in a responsible manner. If they are not confident/familiar/convinced re this medication then they are correct to refuse to prescribe it.

oldclock · 25/10/2025 13:35

That's a very common and not unreasonable approach. It isn't hugely expensive, you can continue to get it from the private provider. Lose your shit and you'll have to add finding a new gp to your jobs list

BadgernTheGarden · 25/10/2025 13:33

Is there a financial element of who's budget does it come out of, the GP surgery or the clinic?

It does sound reasonable that if the clinic wants someone to have a drug which is not licensed for use by the GP they should supply it, particularly if the GP then takes on responsibility for it being safe and effective. Can the GP avoid responsibility by just saying they told me to prescribe so I did, I rather doubt that would wash in a court.

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/10/2025 13:30

YABVU. Although I do understand your frustration. I would feel the same.

The GP has explained why they are not allowed to prescribe it. You need to get in touch with your consultant.

Notmymarmosets · 25/10/2025 13:28

Prescribers only prescribe within limits of their competency. If they don't feel competent, they shouldn't prescribe. They should refer you to (or back to) someone who is/feels competent. They are personally responsible for what they prescribe.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 25/10/2025 13:27

Matsukaze · 25/10/2025 13:21

GP here. If an unlicensed medication is commenced by a specialist, it has been reviewed by said specialist and patient is benefitting from it without any problems then there isn't a reason why I wouldn't continue it if got the appropriate letters from clinic etc

Thank you.
That seems to be a very reasonable response.

Nobody expects doctors to be experts on everything. All HCPs are very good and knowledgeable at some things, and less so at others.

If a consultant advises a GP that their patient requires X medication, surely that ought to be prescribed.

The message the OP's surgery is sending out is very unhelpful and obstructive IMO.

But thank you for being a reasonable, helpful GP @Matsukaze

gingercat02 · 25/10/2025 13:27

That is absolutely the correct response from a GP who is unsure of what is being requested. An off licence prescription is at their discretion. The consultant can prescribe if they feel you need it.

buffyreboot · 25/10/2025 13:25

Seeingadistance · 25/10/2025 13:16

The GP’s response seems fair enough to me. If a specialist wants this drug prescribed, then they should do the prescribing, and all monitoring etc as required and/or prudent.

In an ideal world - but I’m under gynae for the next year (open access) who have requested a testosterone blood test
gynae wait list is now 2 years to be seen. If they’re tied up doing the drugs too, the wait list is going to be even longer for those who need surgery

TheCorrsDidDreamsBetter · 25/10/2025 13:24

The GP is right, and it should be the specialist that prescribes it.

Some GPs do take on additional training, but it's not within the remit of general practice, this is a specialist issue.

The specialist is basically offloading their workload to the GP, and the GP is saying they don't have the capacity to prescribe and also do the follow up care.

Swiftie1878 · 25/10/2025 13:23

I think your GP is within their right to refuse, tbh, if they are uncertain about if/how it will help you.
Why doesn’t your gynae prescribe it? They want you to have it, so why pass the prescription responsibility on to someone else?