Don't have kids you can't afford!

But it’s taking others’ money to make up for one’s own failures. That’s a moral crime, even of inot a legal one.

you certainly don’t think there’s a magic pot of money, do you? The money to support these people comes from sacrifices by those of us who are actual productive contributors. Who used self-discipline and didn’t organize our lives to grab the maximum possible from hard working fellow citizens.

One supplier of Covid disposables is now being sued by the government for £millions.
So some of the money will be returned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1792rk7ynko

Better late than never, I suppose.

Well bank robbers are committing a crime. Being on benefits isn’t one. Apples and oranges.

Robbing a bank is a crime. Being on benefits is not.
Single parents working part time to maximise benefits (if that is even a thing... on UC, it pays to work) are just using what system is there. It is not fraudulent.

@hadenough2025 not everything is a slight on you. I'm not highly educated. It's just a fact that the higher educated a woman is the fewer kids she's likely to have. Those are the women more likely to limit their family sizes and not have as many kids as they like, even if they're well off. So it's actually them being deprived here.

Kind of understand? 😬

that’s like saying you kind of understand why the bank robber committed a heist, because he couldn’t fund his desired lifestyle without using others’ hard-earned money to pay for it.

Kind of understand? 😬

that’s like saying you kind of understand why the bank robber committed a heist, because he couldn’t fund his desired lifestyle without using others’ hard-earned money to pay for it.

LOL you the taxpayer seem to be perfectly happy to waste billions on failed covid contracts enriching friends of our amazing politicians 😂 Good for you, you must be filthy rich to be able to afford that and do not mind at all :)))

I can kind of understand it when working full time would mean losing most/all of UC AND spending a fortune on childcare because bills still need to be paid and no one accepts principles as payment.

Haha to this comment lady grey!!

just read it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Exactly-the well off and highly educated are the ones stopping at two or three kids because they know if things went south they wouldn't be able to afford more. Why should they have to limit their families whilst others pop out as many as they like?

No, of course not, but she's the one posting and he's not here to give his side.

Either way, unless he's also earning enough to support four children, which he clearly isn't either since the state is now picking up the tab for them, both irresponsible.

Accidents are one thing, but actually planning four children you can't afford to pay for? Why is that OK? That's worse!

I think the issue arises where there is a lack of accountability and expectation that tax payers should pay for poor life choices.

Why should tax payers pay towards people who choose to work part time? Not all 'low paid' parents are doing all they can to be self sufficient. Many realise the minimum required to maximise benefits and choose that.

So what? She was paid for her work. I didn't bang any pans and neither did a lot of other people. I pay my taxes. That pays their wages. They are paid for their work like the rest of us.

I certainly don't feel I owe NHS workers anything, especially ones I've never met or been treated by.

Twinkle pays taxes to not only pay her wages but also the for her children's keep as she can't pay for them herself, it's certainly not Twinkly who owes that lady, it's the other way around! Unless you're one of those weirdos that think NHS workers are our moral superiors and should be worshipped, which you may well be from your posts.

My mum is a high up NHS surgical nurse. When I considered working for the NHS she told me not to. She also pays for private health care. Tells you all you need to know.

Well you pay for private healthcare care now so you won’t be experiencing it again.

NHS bashing is another things that pees me off. Yes there are staff who don’t care and their attitudes can be disgusting but not all of them are like this, tarnishing them all in the same way isn’t right nor ok.

Working for the healthcare industry for me was what I wanted to do long term, loved every second of it, my personality fits it too, which is why I wanted to become a nurse and WILL achieve that in due course. I just don’t appreciate the level of judgement and opinions on here by people who doesn’t know anyone personally or the ins and outs of their situations. Everyone’s circumstances are different.

I have two chronic health conditions and have been treated poorly by all but three HCPs in the NHS. Over the course of 18 years only three people were compassionate and treated me gently while I was in pain.

It's absolutely the minority who are kind to patients.

And anyway, I still shouldn't be falling over myself with gratitude for someone doing the job they are paid to do adequately, it's literally the basic expectation of an employee!

Don’t mean we are all the same though does it? NO.

Trust me, the ones I sued for negligence that cost me an organ and got struck off do give a shit love 😘

You seem to give a shit too, hardly calm and unbothered are you?

Trust me, the ones I sued for negligence that cost me an organ and got struck off do give a shit love 😘

You seem to give a shit too, hardly calm and unbothered are you?

I think everyone has the right to have children and a family, regardless of their income. I think having more than two if you don’t have the finances to support them is irresponsible.

Oh look another one tarnishing everyone with the same brush.

now because lady grey here has had a bad experience with the nhs care that means every nurse and every healthcare professional who works for the nhs have a ‘god’ complex and are dismissive and and appalling attitude. Honestly 🤣

Carry on paying for your private healthcare then. 🤣 like the nurses and staff there give a shit that lady grey thinks that of them. Pah!