To think this is why Reform will win the next election “Epping hotel asylum seeker mistakenly released”

Again nobody said it was. 🤷‍♀️

By choice because it was in Britain’s best interest at the expense of the US. Not because Britain was hard done by.

Nobody suggested it should have been paid off early. It still took the best part of 50 years to do it.

No one paid it off early because the terms were so generous. It would have been silly.

We were repaying it for decades. I was born eight years after the war ended and my tax was repaying it for 36 years of my working life.

Up to 900 men in the barracks? With no work and close to properties that you say are wealthy.

Were you against the Bibby Stockholm but you’re for grouping men in large accommodation like this, why?

I don't have a problem with it in principle.

The training camp in Sussex that I mentioned in my previous post is one of them. It's on the edge of a town, so people accommodated there will have access to services. I might not feel the same if it was in the middle of Dartmoor or something and isolated.

I certainly think it's preferable to accommodating them in hotels in deprived areas, where they may be living alongside people little better off than themselves. I think it's less likely to cause resentment. And East Sussex is a good choice, there are a fair few voluntary groups in the county that support refugees and asylum seekers.

I think most people would.

Do you honestly think that?
They seem mostly unable to think for themselves and just follow Nigel and Tommy two names for their "political knowledge"

Asylum seekers aren't allowed to work. They only get that right if/when they are granted leave to remain.

Are you ok with the Labour barracks proposal?

One of the sites announced to be new asylum seeker accommodation today is Crowborough Training Camp in East Sussex.

It's in an incredibly affluent area, on the edge of the Ashdown Forest, all large detached houses (many with swimming pools, according to my BIL who lives a couple of miles away) and in a ward that has probably never voted anything but Tory.

I'd like to think that this is something of a shift away from accommodating asylum seekers in deprived areas, where so many are struggling.

According to Wikipedia some was funding but much was loans and not fully paid off till the 60s/70s dependent on which country it was.

Why do you think reform are competent? They are headed up by a rotten man who managed to get soppy Cameron to hold a Brexit vote. We are all worse off. Why makes things even worse 😕

Not only a loan but a loan on terms highly favourable to the US.

I don’t think we need to, there’s much better and more successful options who have resolved border issues.

They had a 34.2 swing idk what that would do in other seats.

PP chose China and UAE as paragons of normality and I wouldn't aspire to emulate those.

I think if Labour make hard choices and do things they may find unpalatable but ultimately stop the boats Reform won’t win. We saw in Wales last week that they did a lot worse than opinion polls too. They will gain seats, but maybe not that many.

The Appeal of Reform.....

"How's your kid's physiotherapy going?"

"Not that great. Been three times and not much improvement."

"There's a bloke at my pub who says physiotherapists are useless."

"Oh - is he a physiotherapist himself?"

"No. Not sure what he is, really. But he likes a pint."

"And he reckons physiotherapists are useless? The one we've got for Audrey at the moment doesn't seem to be doing much. She's always achey after a treatment."

"You should let the bloke at the pub have a go."

"Yeah - can't do any worse than the current one, can he?"

"Gotta try something new for little Audrey's sake. His name's Nigel. I'll give you his number."

Australia is a ‘normal country’ and manages it.

Interesting choice of examples for 'normal countries'...

Who do you think will win?

This comment will age like milk.

Both Labour and Tories are extremely incompetent, and both have extreme views that are not shared by the majority of the public at this point. It’s an extreme view to believe that the UK is coping with current levels of immigration, and that the public will have to accept such high levels going forward into the future - they just won’t. Mass immigration and multiculturalism has been a failure - David Cameron said it himself. It’s madness to continue in this failing experiment, but Labour will continue with it for ideological reasons.

Tories and Labour are two sides of the same coin. Both have been tried, and found wanting. The only option left now is Reform.

I didn't think the electorate would be stupid enough to vote for Brexit, and yet they did. They seem to have learnt nothing from that shitshow, so I have little faith in them coming to their senses.

That said, I'm not convinced that Farage actually wants to be PM, so perhaps he will look for a way out.