To think this is why Reform will win the next election “Epping hotel asylum seeker mistakenly released”

Yanbu. Both the tories and Labour have made a total mess of illegal immigration. Both parties have also screwed the economy and no one is happy.

I think voters probably feel there is no choice but to vote Reform. Everyone is angry about the lies and mess. What happened to Starmer 'smashing to gangs'? He can't even manage to return one migrant successfully.

Constant threads banging on about how Reform are going to win the next election are coming across as astroturfing.

Yes. It amazes me most commenters on mumsnet can’t see it. Flags up in even well to do villages now.
I’d never vote Reforn, but live in a bit of the country which is very mixed electorally (lots of county and seat borders). People I know in both economically deprived and well off areas have had enough and the immigration thing goes to the heart of a unifying issue - fairness.
They’ll keep growing in popularity and for those of us who really don’t want a Reform govt or coalition, our only hope is they mess up/implode enough to put enough of their middle ground voters off.

The suggestion that all the migrants are in 4 star hotel is frankly risible. However, what is a fact is that migration is only going to become a bigger issue, as climate change takes hold, and more and more people have to leave the places they’ve lived in. To suggest that it’s going to suddenly reduce or become ‘manageable’ is a fantasy.

I think we could hazard a guess.

And what do you think about the possibility of Reform winning the next election, OP?

There is, others have managed it.

They are not 4 star hotels.

Yanbu 😪

Normal countries can manage it. Try illegally breaking into China or UAE. You’d be jailed immediately, deported and have a lifetime ban from the country. No four star hotels, council house and lifelong benefits and healthcare.

If Reform were in power he wouldn’t have been let in in the first place and put up in a four star hotel free to roam around and sexually assault children would he!

Yep. If only there was a solution to all this migrant madness.

It will be an expression of public anger. Whether it helps the situation or not is irrelevant.

Starmer has to hang someone out to dry for this or he is history.

Can you explain your reasoning?

I think people would be willing to forgive mistakes if they were made. It’s the utter inability to act, the paralysis, the unwillingness to do anything at all to tackle the problems at all that’s most infuriating. They simply won’t try. Drastic measures are needed, and Labour don’t want to be the ones to do it.

I’m not sure how Reform would stop this sort of incompetence…

How would a Reform government possibly translate to fewer mistakes? I mean .... aren't they essentially the same party who advocated for Brexit?

I'm somewhat convinced that 1. The Tories knew they'd fucked up massively and intentionally threw the last election to drop the bags on Starmer and do damage control on their reputations. And 2. Labour have now realised how royally fucked up the situation is and that some decisions that would previously have been seen as radical or extreme are going to have to be made - yet they don't want to be the ones to make them. They’re ideologically opposed and can’t square the circle.

It would be a relief for both parties if neither were the ones in power next election.

I dont see how voting for more austerity policies and yet more cuts to public services will help with matters like this OP.