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To think this is why Reform will win the next election “Epping hotel asylum seeker mistakenly released”

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 24/10/2025 22:43

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo

Police have launched a manhunt after a former asylum seeker who sexually assaulted a 14-year-old girl was mistakenly released from prison.
Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu, who arrived in the UK on a small boat, was jailed for 12 months over the attack in Epping, Essex, last month.

Custody shot of Hadush Kebatu

Manhunt for asylum seeker jailed for sexual assault mistakenly released

Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu sparked nationwide protests after sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo

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Netcurtainnelly · 25/10/2025 00:35

Reform have a good chance.
They seem to be the only ones who have a backbone re immigration.

Bobiverse · 25/10/2025 00:26

EmeraldRoulette · 25/10/2025 00:06

@Bobiverse may I ask the context for your question please - so are you asking the question in a legal sense or a practical sense?

All reform supporters keep saying that same sort of stuff. But they can never explain how it would actually be achieved. What mechanisms would actually be put in place and how would they work?

My guess is that reform voters can’t actually answer.

Ablondiebutagoody · 25/10/2025 00:24

Tiedbutchorestodo · 25/10/2025 00:11

I’m never quite sure how this the “send them back” calls are meant to work. Don’t the majority of illegal immigrants come with no papers so no way of telling where they’re from? So how can you send them back anywhere?

Safe 3rd country like, erm Rwanda as the Danes are doing or Uganda as the Dutch are.

NewspaperTaxis · 25/10/2025 00:17

Almost off topic but the Celebrity Traitors seems to sum up the UK today - a bunch of clueless muppets unable to see who the real enemy is, coming down hard on the wrong people - who gets ousted? Two blacks, one posho, a Scot, a beardy, that young woman who also looked from the wrong side of the tracks, basically anyone who wouldn't fit in your local Weatherspoons or might have a hard time from the Met police... or again is this all off topic?

soupyspoon · 25/10/2025 00:15

Tiedbutchorestodo · 25/10/2025 00:11

I’m never quite sure how this the “send them back” calls are meant to work. Don’t the majority of illegal immigrants come with no papers so no way of telling where they’re from? So how can you send them back anywhere?

Even if people have papers, you cant by law (which Im sure people would say could just be changed) send someone back where they may be at risk.

And the country itself has to agree to take the person back, you cant just pop them on a flight or a boat.

If for example someone has come from Italy or France (might not be their originating country), France or Italy has to agree to take them back. Why would they do that?

Tiedbutchorestodo · 25/10/2025 00:11

I’m never quite sure how this the “send them back” calls are meant to work. Don’t the majority of illegal immigrants come with no papers so no way of telling where they’re from? So how can you send them back anywhere?

Poppingby · 25/10/2025 00:08

EmeraldRoulette · 25/10/2025 00:06

@Bobiverse may I ask the context for your question please - so are you asking the question in a legal sense or a practical sense?

Try both?

EmeraldRoulette · 25/10/2025 00:06

@Bobiverse may I ask the context for your question please - so are you asking the question in a legal sense or a practical sense?

Ablondiebutagoody · 25/10/2025 00:04

PolarExpression · 24/10/2025 23:41

Yanbu. Both the tories and Labour have made a total mess of illegal immigration. Both parties have also screwed the economy and no one is happy.

I think voters probably feel there is no choice but to vote Reform. Everyone is angry about the lies and mess. What happened to Starmer 'smashing to gangs'? He can't even manage to return one migrant successfully.

The gangs should start offering bogof crossings?

Bobiverse · 25/10/2025 00:03

MissKitty0 · 24/10/2025 23:14

If Reform were in power he wouldn’t have been let in in the first place and put up in a four star hotel free to roam around and sexually assault children would he!

See, this is where I’m unclear. Since you seem to know @MissKitty0, can you please explain exactly the steps reform would have taken?
How would they have stopped his boat landing?
If it had landed, how would they have immediately deported him, so he wasn’t every provided with accommodation or allowed to walk around?

How are they doing all of that?

HeddaGarbled · 25/10/2025 00:03

Reading some of the analysis of the Plaid Cymru victory, there’s a sense that this was a who’s-best-placed-to-keep-Reform-out vote.

Lib Dems for the win?

TBH, it’s so far away, I don’t think any predictions are meaningful at the moment. I think it’s likely that both Starmer and Badenoch will have been replaced by the time the next general election comes around.

Dragonscaledaisy · 25/10/2025 00:01

HeddaGarbled · 24/10/2025 23:41

Plaid Cymru, though 🎉

Yes - a very grim day for Labour and a clear message for Starmer.

GoldThumb · 25/10/2025 00:00

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2025 23:56

What the fuck are Labour playing at? Do they want Reform to win?

I think they do tbh.

They don’t seem to want to actually do anything about anything, it’d suit them greatly to be back in opposition, lamenting on what needs to be done, and not being the ones to have to do it.

Bobiverse · 24/10/2025 23:59

NewspaperTaxis · 24/10/2025 23:45

I don't get who is putting up the flags in high streets - I don't dislike the British flag but the agenda behind this is disturbing, it feels foisted on us and it's odd the Council can't or won't do anything. I live in Epsom Surrey btw.

The prison release reeks of State incompetence or even corruption; Zoe Williams on Sky News hinted as much of the latter on the News Preview this evening it seemed to me. I mean how do drones with drugs get into prisons, it can't be that hard to stop them surely, just get a big net to go over the place. Or do criminal gangs know the home addresses of the prison governors?

I generally like a 'prisoner on the run' story and often enough am egging them on like they're Richard Hannay in The 39 Steps or Young Churchill in the Boer War but I make an exception in this case - that said maybe one year in the clink for attempting to kiss an underage teenager might be a tad excessive... then again didn't he have a history back home of this kind of stuff?

Did he jump the barrier so he could get on a train to London? How much cash would he be issued?

To me it just seems to be the State that is rubbish and nobody ever does jail time if they work for it, look at the Post Office scandal and any other State-orientated scandal.

I’m pretty sure it’s the English flag being put up all over the place, At least, that’s what the news shows.

OonaStubbs · 24/10/2025 23:56

What the fuck are Labour playing at? Do they want Reform to win?

soupyspoon · 24/10/2025 23:55

MissKitty0 · 24/10/2025 23:14

If Reform were in power he wouldn’t have been let in in the first place and put up in a four star hotel free to roam around and sexually assault children would he!

But he would because (perhaps not specifically in his case), other countries have o accept him back in order to deport someone from this country.

ReplacementBusService · 24/10/2025 23:55

The words that spring to mind are "piss up" "brewery" and "Reform will not make anything better"

EmeraldRoulette · 24/10/2025 23:50

NewspaperTaxis · 24/10/2025 23:48

In a way Farage is a typical State operative - create a problem then present yourself as the solution to it, I mean of course re Brexit and the small boats, which have grown in number ever since.

But Brexit is not the only reason for the increase.

CherrieTomaties · 24/10/2025 23:50

MissKitty0 · 24/10/2025 23:16

Normal countries can manage it. Try illegally breaking into China or UAE. You’d be jailed immediately, deported and have a lifetime ban from the country. No four star hotels, council house and lifelong benefits and healthcare.

I wouldn’t call China or UAE a ‘normal country’…

Mom6toomany · 24/10/2025 23:49

Reform are clueless. They have no policies and zero knowledge of what it takes to run a country, saying that they can fix the problems doesn’t mean they actually can.

Please take a moment to reflect on why we have these huge problems (Nigel, UKIP & the gift that keeps on giving Brexit) and then use the inch of common sense that God (or whatever higher power you believe in) and dig deep to see that if you vote for Reform then you are voting for the Turkeys that created this mess in the first place.

It’s really not that complicated.

Labour & the Tories also currently have no clue, unfortunately neither are brave enough to reverse Brexit and finally take back control.

EmeraldRoulette · 24/10/2025 23:49

I live in Essex and I know exactly what you mean

My main concern with Reform is that they have no experience of the mechanics And practicalities of running a country

But given the absolute shit show the experienced parties have produced over the last few years, perhaps my concern is foolish.

This situation is probably the result of years of problematic decisions and cuts within prison staffing

But Reform are the only party who would look to prevent him being here in the first place. In reality, I'm not sure that they will have the balls to sort that out.

NewspaperTaxis · 24/10/2025 23:48

In a way Farage is a typical State operative - create a problem then present yourself as the solution to it, I mean of course re Brexit and the small boats, which have grown in number ever since.

ninjahamster · 24/10/2025 23:45

I mean, they might win. They won’t be the answer though. They’ve no experience of government, no decent policies. Just empty rhetoric and campaigns fueled by the public vulnerabilities.

Farage would have to actually spend time in his own country. The NHS would be wiped out.

Reform supporters, what’s his policies on education? Social care? climate change?

NewspaperTaxis · 24/10/2025 23:45

I don't get who is putting up the flags in high streets - I don't dislike the British flag but the agenda behind this is disturbing, it feels foisted on us and it's odd the Council can't or won't do anything. I live in Epsom Surrey btw.

The prison release reeks of State incompetence or even corruption; Zoe Williams on Sky News hinted as much of the latter on the News Preview this evening it seemed to me. I mean how do drones with drugs get into prisons, it can't be that hard to stop them surely, just get a big net to go over the place. Or do criminal gangs know the home addresses of the prison governors?

I generally like a 'prisoner on the run' story and often enough am egging them on like they're Richard Hannay in The 39 Steps or Young Churchill in the Boer War but I make an exception in this case - that said maybe one year in the clink for attempting to kiss an underage teenager might be a tad excessive... then again didn't he have a history back home of this kind of stuff?

Did he jump the barrier so he could get on a train to London? How much cash would he be issued?

To me it just seems to be the State that is rubbish and nobody ever does jail time if they work for it, look at the Post Office scandal and any other State-orientated scandal.

HeddaGarbled · 24/10/2025 23:41

Plaid Cymru, though 🎉