Page 11 | To think this is why Reform will win the next election “Epping hotel asylum seeker mistakenly released”

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 2025-10-24T21:43:28+00:00

[[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo]] *Police have launched a manhunt after a former asylum seeker who sexually assaulted a 14-year-old girl was mistakenly released from prison.* Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu, who arrived in the UK on a small boat, was jailed for 12 months over the attack in Epping, Essex, last month.

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 15:03

Onmytod24 · 25/10/2025 14:25

Reform won’t win the next election. It gets to 33% and then is stuck.

Who do you think will

Pharazon · 25/10/2025 14:35

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 14:19

Ok
So we are not bound by EU rules then .. therefore we can send them back to be Frances problem.
I assume that's what reform will do anyway

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How does ‘sending them back’ to a country that won’t accept them work in practice? You need to have a return agreement in place before you can physically return people to a country. This is why we can’t return anyone failed asylum seekers to Afghanistan at the moment.

EasternStandard · 25/10/2025 14:25

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 14:14

Because we left the EU.

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Who is sending people back within the EU anyway? To any extent that resolves this issue. Have you noticed the news in Dublin on this?

Onmytod24 · 25/10/2025 14:25

Reform won’t win the next election. It gets to 33% and then is stuck.

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 14:20

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 14:19

Ok
So we are not bound by EU rules then .. therefore we can send them back to be Frances problem.
I assume that's what reform will do anyway

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And what happens when France refuse to receive them?

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 14:19

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 14:14

Because we left the EU.

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Ok
So we are not bound by EU rules then .. therefore we can send them back to be Frances problem.
I assume that's what reform will do anyway

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 14:14

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 14:03

Why are they allowed to refuse them,when that is where they came from .
France is safe .they can make a life there .
Just less niceties than UK

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Because we left the EU.

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 14:03

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 13:09

And when France refused to accept them??

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Why are they allowed to refuse them,when that is where they came from .
France is safe .they can make a life there .
Just less niceties than UK

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 13:56

Pharazon · 25/10/2025 13:38

It doesn’t need to be legal. The rule of law is an illusion, as Trump’s government is amply demonstrating. I have no doubt that a Reform government will simply ignore the courts (and Parliament) and do whatever they want.

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Which is precisely why they should never be anywhere near power!

Pharazon · 25/10/2025 13:38

LavenderBlue19 · 25/10/2025 09:37

And how exactly do you think they should do that? What's Reform's great plan? Do bear in mind it needs to be legal...

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It doesn’t need to be legal. The rule of law is an illusion, as Trump’s government is amply demonstrating. I have no doubt that a Reform government will simply ignore the courts (and Parliament) and do whatever they want.

Mimph · 25/10/2025 13:24

I think the news yesterday with the top two stories being about asylum seekers would make even those most strongly against the anti-immigration stance think that Reform and Nigel Farage had a point.

overstimulatedhermit · 25/10/2025 13:22

Gall10 · 25/10/2025 13:11

Poland is in the eec….fartage & his cronies were the cause of brexit…I’m not sure what your point is.

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No illegal migration what so ever and now the bill signed for zero personal income tax for parents of two or more children. Great stuff

Locutus2000 · 25/10/2025 13:21

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 24/10/2025 23:36

Constant threads banging on about how Reform are going to win the next election are coming across as astroturfing.

Especially threads started by new posters who then never return.

OonaStubbs · 25/10/2025 13:19

soupyspoon · 25/10/2025 13:12

Turned back to where?

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Anywhere but here.

soupyspoon · 25/10/2025 13:12

TwistyTurnip · 25/10/2025 11:18

Farage gave an interview recently and said that Reform will be using the navy to stop the boats. He said former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott implemented a military-led operation called Operation Sovereign Borders in 2013, which used the navy to intercept and turn back boats carrying asylum seekers. The operation dramatically reduced boat arrivals, with only a few dozen reaching Australia in the years following its implementation.

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Turned back to where?

Gall10 · 25/10/2025 13:11

overstimulatedhermit · 25/10/2025 12:55

with any luck reform will get in. We need to become a country like Poland

Poland is in the eec….fartage & his cronies were the cause of brexit…I’m not sure what your point is.

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 13:10

HedwigEliza · 24/10/2025 22:47

I'm somewhat convinced that 1. The Tories knew they'd fucked up massively and intentionally threw the last election to drop the bags on Starmer and do damage control on their reputations. And 2. Labour have now realised how royally fucked up the situation is and that some decisions that would previously have been seen as radical or extreme are going to have to be made - yet they don't want to be the ones to make them. They’re ideologically opposed and can’t square the circle.

It would be a relief for both parties if neither were the ones in power next election.

I actually think this situation is hitting the nail on the head .
And I don't think Nigel actually wants the responsibility of PM ..he often doesn't turn up for work as it is .
My worry is green will get in ..which once upon a time I'd of been thrilled with ..but now I feel it would be a disaster .
I don't think conservatives,or Labour are capable of difficult decisions,and I don't think Nigel wants the responsibility..I think he likes causing drama ,but I don't think he is relishing the thought of being PM ...my son was showing me some social media,where people pay Nigel large amounts of money to say rediculous things ...and I just thought..that's not someone taking politics seriously..and it will end up resurfacing in the event he ends up PM.
I've said before on here ...I have absolutely no idea who I will vote for next time ..but I am very very unhappy about immigration currently

CorneliaCupp · 25/10/2025 13:09

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 12:58

Come from France ,a safe country.
They can be sent back there
God knows we pay the french enough money to stop them ..

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And when France refused to accept them??

OonaStubbs · 25/10/2025 13:05

Why don't Labour just smash the gangs?

CagneyNYPD1 · 25/10/2025 13:01

HedwigEliza · 24/10/2025 22:47

I'm somewhat convinced that 1. The Tories knew they'd fucked up massively and intentionally threw the last election to drop the bags on Starmer and do damage control on their reputations. And 2. Labour have now realised how royally fucked up the situation is and that some decisions that would previously have been seen as radical or extreme are going to have to be made - yet they don't want to be the ones to make them. They’re ideologically opposed and can’t square the circle.

It would be a relief for both parties if neither were the ones in power next election.

I think you are spot on @HedwigEliza

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/10/2025 13:00

YABU to think Reform will be better at running prisons.

Winterrobin5 · 25/10/2025 12:58

Tiedbutchorestodo · 25/10/2025 00:11

I’m never quite sure how this the “send them back” calls are meant to work. Don’t the majority of illegal immigrants come with no papers so no way of telling where they’re from? So how can you send them back anywhere?

Come from France ,a safe country.
They can be sent back there
God knows we pay the french enough money to stop them ..

jbm16 · 25/10/2025 12:58

Not a fan of Labour, but not sure they can be blamed for this instance, just another example of the ineptitude of our public services.

overstimulatedhermit · 25/10/2025 12:55

with any luck reform will get in. We need to become a country like Poland

EasternStandard · 25/10/2025 12:54

Kimura · 25/10/2025 12:51

Just that it is not "entirely spin".

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It is if Labour sold in smashing the gangs as the solution and crossings are up. They haven’t done as stated, it hasn’t worked.