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To wonder why I can't claim Universal credit?

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Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 07:03

I'm single, 57, and I've been working 30 hours a week in retail for quite some time.
My contracted hours are 18, and over time has taken my hours to 30.

Now however, all overtime has been stopped for all staff and so I applied for Universal credit to try and help me out. I don't have savings over £6,000, but my Son (who is a full time student but working part time) was living with me when I applied.

I do own my own home outright, but I've read that this isn't taken into account as capital if it's the home you're living in. Considering I'm on minimum wage, I can't understand how my low income doesn't qualify me for any help when even couples can claim UC apparently.

I'm just wondering how little an income people have to actually earn to be able to qualify for help. Btw, I've been constantly looking for other jobs too, but I think my age could be putting would be employers off. Could it be the fact that my son was living me (he's just moved into his own place now) affected the outcome of M6 application?

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Fiftyandme · 24/10/2025 11:28

Moveoverdarlin · 24/10/2025 10:42

Surely people that own their homes outright can’t claim UC? In that case, I’ll use my savings to pay off the mortgage and get a lower paid job and claim UC?

Could you look to sell your home OP and move to a cheaper property to release some equity?

Edited

Go ahead. Full time on minimum wage as a single person with no dependants and no rent to pay will gain you - £O UC

Comefromaway · 24/10/2025 10:50

If you own your own home you can claim UC but you don't get a housing allowance.

Moveoverdarlin · 24/10/2025 10:42

Surely people that own their homes outright can’t claim UC? In that case, I’ll use my savings to pay off the mortgage and get a lower paid job and claim UC?

Could you look to sell your home OP and move to a cheaper property to release some equity?

iloveyoghurt · 24/10/2025 10:35

Single childless people are screwed when they suddenly fall on hard times. After working over 20 years 50-55hrs a week and paying every penny on my mortgage, no holidays , only charity shop clothes, no nails done ever, hair cut no more than once a year, saving every penny i could now can't find much work and i get fuck all. If i had my time again i would rent and enjoy life ,work cash in hand and claim benefits, hard work does not pay off any more if you are honest.

Catsknowbest · 24/10/2025 10:18

AquaForce · 24/10/2025 09:26

Do you contribute to a pension? If you do, that will affect your entitlement to benefits. UC is based on net income, that is after tax, NI and pension contributions. Use the benefits calculator to see what happens when you account for this.

You should get the 25% council tax reduction.

Apologies you seem to have already answered the 25% question. But definitely look at if you are qualify for further CTR

Catsknowbest · 24/10/2025 10:16

Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 07:03

I'm single, 57, and I've been working 30 hours a week in retail for quite some time.
My contracted hours are 18, and over time has taken my hours to 30.

Now however, all overtime has been stopped for all staff and so I applied for Universal credit to try and help me out. I don't have savings over £6,000, but my Son (who is a full time student but working part time) was living with me when I applied.

I do own my own home outright, but I've read that this isn't taken into account as capital if it's the home you're living in. Considering I'm on minimum wage, I can't understand how my low income doesn't qualify me for any help when even couples can claim UC apparently.

I'm just wondering how little an income people have to actually earn to be able to qualify for help. Btw, I've been constantly looking for other jobs too, but I think my age could be putting would be employers off. Could it be the fact that my son was living me (he's just moved into his own place now) affected the outcome of M6 application?

Have you now applied for your 25% council tax discount?

Catsknowbest · 24/10/2025 10:14

BedknobsNoBroomsticks · 24/10/2025 07:29

It is really easy to work out.

Start with what you are entitled to which would be a single person over 25 which is £400 per month.

Then you move onto your earnings. The first £684 of your wage is disregarded, then for every £1 above that 55p is taken off.

If your earnings are more than the £400 you will be entitled to nothing.

OP has no work allowance disregard. Has no LCWRA or child dependant. So does not apply. Earnings will be deducted from base.

Zooeymither · 24/10/2025 10:12

So sorry to hear your hours have been cut.

A pp has suggested cleaning work, this is a great idea. You could also consider ad hoc babysitting (childcare.co.uk), we pay a student £15 an hour cash for before or after school care for late primary-age kids, but would love someone older/with more life experience.

Also check out employers who have a positive approach to older workers, B&Q used to be good for this.

Would you consider renting a room to a lodger? You could try a short term arrangement initially to see how you get on. I believe you can earn up to £6-7k a year before you need to pay tax on income from a lodger.

5128gap · 24/10/2025 09:54

The applicable amount (the amount the government thinks you need to live on if you don't have housing costs) for UC for a single adult is £400 per month. For a couple its £628 per month. If you earn significantly more than the government thinks you need to live on, you don't get UC.

Hibernatingtilspring · 24/10/2025 09:50

UC is extremely low for people without children. Benefits always have been, even before UC. You rarely get anything at all unless you're unemployed, and even then the amount you get to live on whild claiming is miniscule unless there's something major (such as significant chronic illness/disability)

Contrary to what most people assume, the rate of benefits isn't tied in any way to the cost of actually living. The govt doesn't pretend that benefits are enough to live on, ie to pay for utilities and food, it's just a number that has been picked and very occasionally increases.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 24/10/2025 09:46

Viviennemary · 24/10/2025 09:42

Benefits for single adults with no children and no rent and no health conditions are much less generous than for families. What is your monthly income.

It isn't that generous for families either.

Comefromaway · 24/10/2025 09:43

Most people who get universal credit on similar sort of incomes are paying rent and living in high rent areas.

My daughter was entitled when she lived in Ealing as it has a high average rent but wasn't entitled on the exact same income when she moved to Croydon for example.

Viviennemary · 24/10/2025 09:42

Benefits for single adults with no children and no rent and no health conditions are much less generous than for families. What is your monthly income.

Fiftyandme · 24/10/2025 09:39

Nonametonight · 24/10/2025 07:11

You should be able to look on your online account to see how your UC was worked out

But as a single adult with no health conditions, no dependent children, no rent liability and no entitlement to support as a carer, earnings of about £730 a month would be enough to knock your entitlement down to zero

The media might tell us that people on UC are living it large, but in reality UC is set at a very low limit and most people whose incomes are low enough to get it are in severe hardship

It’s refreshing to see someone on mumsnet present the truth about benefits and what people can claim

Fiftyandme · 24/10/2025 09:37

You’re expected to get full time work if you’ve no young children under 5 and you’ve no personal circumstances health wise that limits your capability to work.

Hoardasurass · 24/10/2025 09:32

@Walkinginthemoonlight UC is subsistence living you earn almost twice as much as UC says you need to live on per month after your housing costs (which for you is zero)
I know that certain media outlets say that UC claimants are raking it in but really they aren't.
You may be able to get some extra help with your council tax bill, if you live alone you can get 1/4 cut off it btw. Other than that your not going to get anything because the UC rates are so low

AquaForce · 24/10/2025 09:26

Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 08:18

Ok it appears I earn too much over the threshold. Whilst I'm trying to up my hours or find a new job I'll check to see if I qualify for council tax support, although I probably won't!, I get a single person reduction, but someone told me I could maybe get more off due to a low income.

Do you contribute to a pension? If you do, that will affect your entitlement to benefits. UC is based on net income, that is after tax, NI and pension contributions. Use the benefits calculator to see what happens when you account for this.

You should get the 25% council tax reduction.

Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 09:02

PinkFrogss · 24/10/2025 08:22

Does DS still live with you? If so and he hasn’t been paying rent so far start charging him. He may also be entitled to more student loan if your earnings have changed by more than 25%, I’m not sure on the exact rules but may be worth him checking.

I would say look for a new job but I know the job market is absolutely shit at the moment.

No he doesn't, and I think my age goes against me when applying for jobs.

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Genevieva · 24/10/2025 08:22

Are you able to find other work elsewhere? I know it’s not easy, but there are often seasonal opportunities in the lead up to Christmas. These might open more permanent roles.

PinkFrogss · 24/10/2025 08:22

Does DS still live with you? If so and he hasn’t been paying rent so far start charging him. He may also be entitled to more student loan if your earnings have changed by more than 25%, I’m not sure on the exact rules but may be worth him checking.

I would say look for a new job but I know the job market is absolutely shit at the moment.

Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 08:19

Nonameagain31 · 24/10/2025 08:18

If you already work in retail will Xmas bring any opportunities for you?

I'm not sure yet, they've drastically cut the staffing figures and hours (even in a well known store), sign of the times.

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Nonameagain31 · 24/10/2025 08:18

If you already work in retail will Xmas bring any opportunities for you?

Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 08:18

Ok it appears I earn too much over the threshold. Whilst I'm trying to up my hours or find a new job I'll check to see if I qualify for council tax support, although I probably won't!, I get a single person reduction, but someone told me I could maybe get more off due to a low income.

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Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 08:14

RosesAndHellebores · 24/10/2025 07:37

@Walkinginthemoonlight I'm sorry your hours have been cut. I don't know where you live but in the South East cleaners and carers are in short supply and high demand. I pay my cleaner £18ph.

Are jobs like that an option?

I'll look into cleaning too thanks

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Burningbud1981 · 24/10/2025 07:38

You would only be entitled to standard allowance of 400.14. You wouldn’t be entitled to a work allowance so your wages would wipe of any entitlement