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To wonder why I can't claim Universal credit?

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Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 07:03

I'm single, 57, and I've been working 30 hours a week in retail for quite some time.
My contracted hours are 18, and over time has taken my hours to 30.

Now however, all overtime has been stopped for all staff and so I applied for Universal credit to try and help me out. I don't have savings over £6,000, but my Son (who is a full time student but working part time) was living with me when I applied.

I do own my own home outright, but I've read that this isn't taken into account as capital if it's the home you're living in. Considering I'm on minimum wage, I can't understand how my low income doesn't qualify me for any help when even couples can claim UC apparently.

I'm just wondering how little an income people have to actually earn to be able to qualify for help. Btw, I've been constantly looking for other jobs too, but I think my age could be putting would be employers off. Could it be the fact that my son was living me (he's just moved into his own place now) affected the outcome of M6 application?

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estellacandance · 25/10/2025 12:21

You should think more of a lodger. The right fit can really improve your quality of life. The £625pcm they bring in doesn’t count as income for UC and isn’t taxed.

Viviennemary · 25/10/2025 10:43

Ashersmom · 24/10/2025 11:58

HRTFT but I think you've fallen into the Daily Fail trap of how generous the benefit system is.

Generous for those who know how to play the system. Forgive me if I sound cynical but that has been my observation.

Createausername1970 · 24/10/2025 20:29

OP, a friend of mine was in a similar situation and needed a second job that was flexible with hours/days etc. as her supermarket hours were variable.

She now works for a local care Agency who care for people in their own homes. The pay isn't brilliant to be fair, but they need workers from breakfast to bedtime, so she manages to gets plenty of hours to fit round her supermarket shifts.

Obviously this depends on you having a good care provider in your area.

She enjoys it and says sometimes she is doing personal care, assisting with showers etc., but often it's domestic or companionship. One day recently she walked a dog for a client, played cards with another one, took another to the garden centre and finished off doing a jigsaw with the last one.

It's something to consider.

Peridoteage · 24/10/2025 20:12

The people who get high amounts of UC are those with disabilities or children.

Its not there to top up part time work. The expectation is you'll seek more work to top up your income.

Fiftyandme · 24/10/2025 20:09

Comefromaway · 24/10/2025 13:11

How nit picky. I called housing element housing allowance. The principle still stands.

The nit-picker is also wrong. Housing benefit is very much alive and kicking and is paid by local authorities, it is a benefit for pensioners who qualify for help with their rent.

Cakeandusername · 24/10/2025 20:02

Is there anything suitable on your local council. There’s lots of older staff working in local govt.

GelatoForMe · 24/10/2025 20:00

A laundry lady job in a care home is the sweetest little and well paid if you do 40 h - you will get above 2000 pounds and will be able to save, travel etc

GelatoForMe · 24/10/2025 19:59

Apply in hotels, warehouses or kitchen op. There are always jobs in garden centres too

cobrakaieaglefang · 24/10/2025 19:35

B&Q used to be good, not so much anymore. Experience isn't valued in the same way as it was, kids are easier to stick on a till and use technology. They do pay a flat rate across all ages, its a good one for kids as they get paid adult rate. Again, short contracted hours with 'flex'. It reduces costs if they only have to pay holiday pay for part timer but get more hours. Cut overtime at a moments notice. Retail is notorious for this kind of thing.

Catsknowbest · 24/10/2025 15:34

iloveyoghurt · 24/10/2025 13:05

Feel for you, i was raised too by a single mum with no help as dad fucked off basically. What is really annoying is the fact how many people thaf i know get loatsnof money from UC being dishonest, one i know gets 1300 a month ,lives on her own in 2 bed flat,working cash in hand. The other one claims to a single parent ( her partner of 10 years lives with her) . It really shit when i can't even sell my fucking flat as the government isn't fixed the cladding, but apparently i don't need help as i have an ASSET that i can so nothing with as it is valued at £0

Just report them if its that blatant.

Catsknowbest · 24/10/2025 15:32

Olivebranch123 · 24/10/2025 12:43

OP,don't close your UC account down. If your earnings fall below the threshold you will automatically be awarded a payment,based upon what you have or have not earned in a specific period.

A zero claim will remain open for 6 months, yes.

Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 15:21

Zooeymither · 24/10/2025 10:12

So sorry to hear your hours have been cut.

A pp has suggested cleaning work, this is a great idea. You could also consider ad hoc babysitting (childcare.co.uk), we pay a student £15 an hour cash for before or after school care for late primary-age kids, but would love someone older/with more life experience.

Also check out employers who have a positive approach to older workers, B&Q used to be good for this.

Would you consider renting a room to a lodger? You could try a short term arrangement initially to see how you get on. I believe you can earn up to £6-7k a year before you need to pay tax on income from a lodger.

I wouldn't consider a lodger, I wouldn't feel comfortable with it and I want my home to feel like my home,

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Comefromaway · 24/10/2025 13:11

Olivebranch123 · 24/10/2025 12:41

There's no such thing as housing allowance, the housing element is part of universal credit.

How nit picky. I called housing element housing allowance. The principle still stands.

iloveyoghurt · 24/10/2025 13:05

GloriousRain · 24/10/2025 12:37

It’s not just childless people. I raised 3 kids alone and their dad paid the bare minimum maintenance (whilst being on a decent salary)

I worked 3 part time jobs around pretty much full time custody (they spent one night with him each fortnight, because he ‘worked too much’ to have them any more)

So he got free childcare at my expense, whilst I worked for a negative sum for the 13 weeks of school holidays per year as I had to pay childcare to go to work which cost more than I made and my benefits put together and that was with the reduction rate I got for my eldest.

This was before the 2 child cap. God help anyone who’s on benefits these days, it’s not enough to cover basic costs never mind anything else, and you still get the same shame, the stigma and judgement from those who don’t know what it is like to live like that plus the media crowing about how people on benefits are just raking it in at their expense. It’s not true. It has never been true, and it is even less true now than it has ever been before.

I feel for you. It’s a horrible and dehumanising way to live.

Feel for you, i was raised too by a single mum with no help as dad fucked off basically. What is really annoying is the fact how many people thaf i know get loatsnof money from UC being dishonest, one i know gets 1300 a month ,lives on her own in 2 bed flat,working cash in hand. The other one claims to a single parent ( her partner of 10 years lives with her) . It really shit when i can't even sell my fucking flat as the government isn't fixed the cladding, but apparently i don't need help as i have an ASSET that i can so nothing with as it is valued at £0

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 24/10/2025 12:45

I don't know if things have changed but ten years ago I was single (adult children all at Uni), working 18 hours a week and earning around £600 per month. I was not eligible for any help whatsoever, and my earnings went on rent in their entirety. Any help was limited to telling me to get another job where I'd have more hours. I was working part time for a reason and as soon as that reason ended I had to change jobs. There was no financial support at all.

Olivebranch123 · 24/10/2025 12:43

OP,don't close your UC account down. If your earnings fall below the threshold you will automatically be awarded a payment,based upon what you have or have not earned in a specific period.

Olivebranch123 · 24/10/2025 12:41

Comefromaway · 24/10/2025 10:50

If you own your own home you can claim UC but you don't get a housing allowance.

There's no such thing as housing allowance, the housing element is part of universal credit.

GloriousRain · 24/10/2025 12:37

iloveyoghurt · 24/10/2025 10:35

Single childless people are screwed when they suddenly fall on hard times. After working over 20 years 50-55hrs a week and paying every penny on my mortgage, no holidays , only charity shop clothes, no nails done ever, hair cut no more than once a year, saving every penny i could now can't find much work and i get fuck all. If i had my time again i would rent and enjoy life ,work cash in hand and claim benefits, hard work does not pay off any more if you are honest.

It’s not just childless people. I raised 3 kids alone and their dad paid the bare minimum maintenance (whilst being on a decent salary)

I worked 3 part time jobs around pretty much full time custody (they spent one night with him each fortnight, because he ‘worked too much’ to have them any more)

So he got free childcare at my expense, whilst I worked for a negative sum for the 13 weeks of school holidays per year as I had to pay childcare to go to work which cost more than I made and my benefits put together and that was with the reduction rate I got for my eldest.

This was before the 2 child cap. God help anyone who’s on benefits these days, it’s not enough to cover basic costs never mind anything else, and you still get the same shame, the stigma and judgement from those who don’t know what it is like to live like that plus the media crowing about how people on benefits are just raking it in at their expense. It’s not true. It has never been true, and it is even less true now than it has ever been before.

I feel for you. It’s a horrible and dehumanising way to live.

Lougle · 24/10/2025 12:24

Walkinginthemoonlight · 24/10/2025 07:03

I'm single, 57, and I've been working 30 hours a week in retail for quite some time.
My contracted hours are 18, and over time has taken my hours to 30.

Now however, all overtime has been stopped for all staff and so I applied for Universal credit to try and help me out. I don't have savings over £6,000, but my Son (who is a full time student but working part time) was living with me when I applied.

I do own my own home outright, but I've read that this isn't taken into account as capital if it's the home you're living in. Considering I'm on minimum wage, I can't understand how my low income doesn't qualify me for any help when even couples can claim UC apparently.

I'm just wondering how little an income people have to actually earn to be able to qualify for help. Btw, I've been constantly looking for other jobs too, but I think my age could be putting would be employers off. Could it be the fact that my son was living me (he's just moved into his own place now) affected the outcome of M6 application?

You are earning around £953 per month and won't get a work allowance, so 55% will be deducted, which is £524. The personal allowance is £400, so your deductions exceed the allowance and you get nothing.

I'm sorry it's all so hard.

BIossomtoes · 24/10/2025 12:17

Moveoverdarlin · 24/10/2025 10:42

Surely people that own their homes outright can’t claim UC? In that case, I’ll use my savings to pay off the mortgage and get a lower paid job and claim UC?

Could you look to sell your home OP and move to a cheaper property to release some equity?

Edited

Yes they can. What are homeowners supposed to live on if they’re unemployed? If you want to live on £400 a month, go ahead - I suspect you probably don’t.

Enigma54 · 24/10/2025 12:08

Looks like you either need a second job or one which pays more OP. With no rent to pay, or dependants living with you, there’s not alot you can claim.

Ashersmom · 24/10/2025 11:58

HRTFT but I think you've fallen into the Daily Fail trap of how generous the benefit system is.

Comefromaway · 24/10/2025 11:55

18 hours per week at minimum wage (the Universal Credit Administrative Earnings Threshold) is £219.78 per week which is well over the £92.34 allowance per week for a single person over 25 with no rent/allowances etc.

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