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To love Paris and to think ‘Paris syndrome’ is a myth?

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BarbaraVineFan · 23/10/2025 22:39

Currently coming to the end of a marvellous short break in Paris. I’ve been here lots of times and also lived here for a while when I was a child. In all this time (but especially this most recent holiday) I haven’t found any evidence of any of the accusations levelled against Paris. It’s not dirty- in fact, it seems notably cleaner than the last time I was here in approx 2009) and it isn’t enormously expensive, especially compared to London. What’s more, it’s often said that Parisians are rude, but the people I have met and interacted with have been without exception polite and courteous. Am i missing something? I would honestly live here again in a heartbeat. Does anyone else agree?

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Ffffaasdd · 27/10/2025 11:26

Lostinfrance1234 · 27/10/2025 11:20

Having lived in both London and Paris I’d be worried in both but then I’d be worried if my 18 year old was almost anywhere wandering around alone in the middle of the night.

True

Lostinfrance1234 · 27/10/2025 11:20

Ffffaasdd · 26/10/2025 13:39

How would people honestly feel about their DDs (18 years and older) roaming around Paris at night on their own?

I worry and can't sleep when my DD is coming back home alone in London itself.

Having lived in both London and Paris I’d be worried in both but then I’d be worried if my 18 year old was almost anywhere wandering around alone in the middle of the night.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 26/10/2025 16:44

ShesTheAlbatross · 23/10/2025 23:01

I don’t find it particularly dirty, or think the people are any ruder than anywhere else. But I’m not a massive fan. It’s fine, but I think it is more loved than it deserves. I don’t think it’s so much nicer than other European capitals that it warrants the kind of particular attention it gets.

This.

Vienna seems to deserve the reputation Paris gets. It's beautiful and the bakeries are much better. And it's much cheaper.

My German is not a great deal better than my French, except that when I go to German speaking countries, my errors aren't met with eye rolling and sighs. My Czech is abysmal, but somehow accepted and appreciated. My Welsh is poor, but I get a lot of encouragement. For some reason I can speak a few phrases in Polish as good as a native.

My French is mysteriously fine in African countries, but unintelligible in France.

So yeah, I think they do have an attitude problem. We travel pretty widely and have only ever felt unwelcome in France, and not just Paris too.

Thankyourose · 26/10/2025 16:37

I have been to Paris countless times ( family, work mainly) and speak French and still think it’s an overrated shit home!

2wheeler2025 · 26/10/2025 16:17

BarbaraVineFan · 26/10/2025 13:33

@2wheeler2025i would prefer for my thread not to be derailed by racist nonsense , thank you .

Well it's not a derailment is it?

Paris syndrome originates from Japanese tourists shocked at the "culture" difference of Paris. Let's not beat around the bush and acknowledge that this cultural difference is not due to the beautiful architecture, good food and wine

Ffffaasdd · 26/10/2025 14:48

Louvre is too humid.. Much prefer the stuff we have in London

clarafats · 26/10/2025 14:43

I went to Paris in 1986. Went for a meal, next day I was quite ill (vomiting/diarrhea), assume it was food poisoning. Once I felt well enough to take some food, it was bread and cheese for me. It poured with rain much of the time, (August), Parisians were quite rude. Louvre - queue for the loo so had to rush outside to throw up; Pompidou centre was warm and managed to dry off a bit from the rain. Was dreading getting the ferry back, but strangely, as soon as I left French soil, I felt well and celebrated with a whisky! Never returned to Paris.

Ffffaasdd · 26/10/2025 13:58

Paris in TV shows is romanticised and idealistic and beautiful and pretty. The TV shows don't show the littering and garbage, the rats, the pickpockets.

In the previous millennium some people (non native french) tried robbing DH and I after a night out. We fought them off thankfully. We've been back with family but were cautious to not let DC out of our sights.

Handeyethingyowl · 26/10/2025 13:46

I have never heard of Paris Syndrome or ever not enjoyed being in Paris. I prefer other places in France but they aren’t comparable places.

Ffffaasdd · 26/10/2025 13:39

How would people honestly feel about their DDs (18 years and older) roaming around Paris at night on their own?

I worry and can't sleep when my DD is coming back home alone in London itself.

BarbaraVineFan · 26/10/2025 13:33

@2wheeler2025i would prefer for my thread not to be derailed by racist nonsense , thank you .

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2wheeler2025 · 26/10/2025 11:48

crackofdoom · 26/10/2025 10:30

You mean you don't like the fact that there are lots of black people in Paris.

Newsflash: France is an ex colonial, multi ethnic society. Personally, I like it like that- but then again, I'm not a racist 🙄

You are a turkey voting for Christmas

WreckedITellYou · 26/10/2025 10:44

crackofdoom · 26/10/2025 10:30

You mean you don't like the fact that there are lots of black people in Paris.

Newsflash: France is an ex colonial, multi ethnic society. Personally, I like it like that- but then again, I'm not a racist 🙄

Yes, exactly.

crackofdoom · 26/10/2025 10:30

2wheeler2025 · 26/10/2025 09:51

Youtuber Kurt Caz filmed outside Gare du Nord station recently and it could have been Nigeria. Also the aggressive migrant scammers and trinket sellers around the Eiffel tower. No thanks

You mean you don't like the fact that there are lots of black people in Paris.

Newsflash: France is an ex colonial, multi ethnic society. Personally, I like it like that- but then again, I'm not a racist 🙄

WreckedITellYou · 26/10/2025 10:15

2wheeler2025 · 26/10/2025 09:51

Youtuber Kurt Caz filmed outside Gare du Nord station recently and it could have been Nigeria. Also the aggressive migrant scammers and trinket sellers around the Eiffel tower. No thanks

How could it have been Nigeria? If by this comment you means there were lots of Africans or people of African descent visible in the video of a South African notorious for his anti-migrant videos, then you would be chiefly looking at people from the Maghreb, Mali Senegal, Congo, Cameroon etc.

Id suggest yiu step away from far-right YouTubers.

2wheeler2025 · 26/10/2025 09:51

Youtuber Kurt Caz filmed outside Gare du Nord station recently and it could have been Nigeria. Also the aggressive migrant scammers and trinket sellers around the Eiffel tower. No thanks

SulkySeagull · 25/10/2025 21:31

I have always loved Paris, however last time I visited (3 years ago) I was really disheartened by the amount of refugees sleeping on the streets - including small children sleeping on cardboard boxes. It changed it for me.

Lostinfrance1234 · 25/10/2025 21:28

CoffeeCantata · 24/10/2025 20:01

Yes - those cities are lovely and you can walk everywhere!

You can walk to most places in central paris too tbf

TheLette · 25/10/2025 21:05

I really like Paris, but I couldn't live there. I lived there for nearly a year as a student and it drove me absolutely mad. Admittedly not helped by some seriously extended strike action at the time which basically made doing everything impossible. I also got very fat eating baguette (I didn't even eat croissants etc unless I had visitors!) and a weekly chocolate mousse a l'ancienne. I can't be trusted with French delicacies, clearly.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 25/10/2025 20:54

Very interesting post @thecatfromneptune, and one I’m pleased to read . We visited Paris more than 15 years back, as part of our holiday taking DS to DLP. At the time I thought it was dirty and I was unimpressed but DH keeps asking to return and I figure I ought to give it another go.

Sennelier1 · 25/10/2025 15:28

We love Paris and go very often, like every year for the New Year and for my birthday or just when I feel like it 😊We live in Belgium and have been in Paris uncountable times. Never had any issues. What we dó see is tourists treating Parisians really bad, like screaming for service, sitting down in a restaurant without being offered a table, demanding everybody speaks their language, rude behaviour like clicking your fingers or whistle when they want to order etc. Also entering in group and (trying to) jump a queu in musea, talking really loud in an exhibition, and - this is a pet-peeve of mine - standing in a busy street or intersection and making influencer-clips. If I was treated that way I would probably throw my apron on the ground and go home. But it's often thát kind of tourists who complain.

CraftyGin · 25/10/2025 14:30

Having now read up on the Paris Syndrome, it is clear that this is a Japanese problem, not a Paris one. I imagine you can have a syndrome for any capital city in the world!

To be honest, to get palpitations because there is a bit of litter next to a tourist attraction (presumably dropped by tourists) is a bit extreme. Hopefully, the vast majority who do not suffer this enjoy the enlightenment of leaving a mono-culture.

Isseywith2witchycats · 25/10/2025 14:06

Forgot to say highlight of the trip was being there when the tour de France bike race finished on the champs de lice the atmosphere and watching a British cyclist win was amazing

Isseywith2witchycats · 25/10/2025 14:04

I love Paris when we went did the usual tourist stuff stayed near the place de Republic so history attached to where we were, the weather was kind, breakfast and lunch from a lovely little patisserie near our hotel, but eating out at night maybe I'm fussy but overall the food at night was disappointing I expected fab food dining and it was very meh and nothing special

XWKD · 25/10/2025 13:54

I've always found Parisians to be polite and courteous.