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The Mandela effect

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Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 22/10/2025 20:15

Does anyone have any strong assertions that their false memories are real, even though it's been proven they are not?

I've just read about 100 people all absolutely swearing that the fruit of the loom logo had a cornucopia. I don't remember it with one at all, I think they're all batshit, honestly 😄

I also don't think there was a movie called shabaaz or whatever it was, I don't think Mandela died in prison and I don't think the monopoly man had a monocle

What I am am absolutely certain of though, is that walkers bloody well DID change their crisp colours!!!

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AmethystAnnotation · 23/10/2025 16:43

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:18

Does this mean I have to stop telling people I played between the stones?

Could it possibly have been Avebury you visited rather than Stonehenge? Avebury was always open to wander round the stones - haven't been there for about 20 years so don't know if it still is but it certainly was in the late 20th century/early 21st century.

MsWilmottsGhost · 23/10/2025 16:41

PixieandMe · 23/10/2025 16:34

I was born in 1971. We didn't live that far from Stonehenge and regularly used to park up and walk up right up to the stones, touch them etc. as kids.

I remember seeing on the local news one day that Portsmouth FC fans had spray painted 'PFC' onto one of the stones. I can still see it now, blue spray paint. In my memory, it was after this event that they were roped off and a visitor centre put in.

I don't think you could walk up to them as last as the last 1980's, no. 1977 sounds right.

Seems about right, or maybe a bit before 1977?

DM had photos of her DM standing with the stones, but always said she couldn't take us because you couldn't do that anymore.

MsWilmottsGhost · 23/10/2025 16:36

Rituelec · 22/10/2025 20:24

Walkers did used to be blue for salt and vinegar.

Walkers were always the other way around from Golden Wonder as far back as I remember.

When I was little Golden Wonder were the most common crisp brand round our way, then Walkers suddenly popped up everywhere instead and I remember at school we all moaned about their Salt and Vinegar and Cheese and Onion colours being wrong way round.

People are just remembering Golden Wonder.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/10/2025 16:34

My DMum insisted Derek Jacobi was dead for over a decade - so everything new he was in couldn't be was new - she did finally conceed she might be wrong.

I think he had a series of heart attacks when filming something and either there was mis- reporting or she mis connected the dots but over 20 years later he's still around.

PixieandMe · 23/10/2025 16:34

nomas · 23/10/2025 14:49

I have memories of walking through the Stone Henge stones on a school trip as a child in the late 1980s and touching all the stones.

However, Google says Stone Henge was roped off in 1977.

Is there a false memory? Or did anyone else do this in the 80s/90s?

I was born in 1971. We didn't live that far from Stonehenge and regularly used to park up and walk up right up to the stones, touch them etc. as kids.

I remember seeing on the local news one day that Portsmouth FC fans had spray painted 'PFC' onto one of the stones. I can still see it now, blue spray paint. In my memory, it was after this event that they were roped off and a visitor centre put in.

I don't think you could walk up to them as last as the last 1980's, no. 1977 sounds right.

Algen · 23/10/2025 16:31

I wonder if some of the people who remember playing between the stones actually went to Avebury before / after Stonehenge? You could definitely go between the stones there at least as late as 2000, don’t know if you still can.

PixieandMe · 23/10/2025 16:30

I listened to a podcast about this recently and my OH told me about the James Bond one.

https://www.cbr.com/james-bond-moonraker-jaws-dolly-braces-legend-mandela-effect/

OH is a huge Bond fan and he said he was always convinced that the young lady was indeed wearing braces. Apparently the producer said that she was never wearing braces but that he wished he had thought of that as it would have worked well!

How James Bond's Moonraker Spurred a Strange Dental Legend

In the latest Movie Legends Revealed, discover how an offbeat romance in a James Bond film led to an ever more offbeat legend about...orthodontics ?

https://www.cbr.com/james-bond-moonraker-jaws-dolly-braces-legend-mandela-effect/

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:29

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/10/2025 16:28

I played between stones - but it wasn't famous stone henge was a smaller regional.

One of the teacher knew farmer who had one in his field and he let us eat lunch there getting of coach on a day trip somewhere else and play in the henge.

Oooh what year was this?

CustardySergeant · 23/10/2025 16:28

AuntieCorruption · 23/10/2025 14:39

I seriously thought I remembered that Ann Heche died in the early 2000’s and that I’d seen photos of her unzipping her own body bag before being bundled into the ambulance on the gurney in The National Enquirer back then!

Then I saw a video of the incident on Facebook and it said she died in 2022, I haven’t even read The National Enquirer since the early 2000s either, I was shocked I could be so wrong 🥴

Unzipping her own body bag? 😕

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/10/2025 16:28

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:18

Does this mean I have to stop telling people I played between the stones?

I played between stones - but it wasn't famous stone henge was a smaller regional.

One of the teacher knew farmer who had one in his field and he let us eat lunch there getting of coach on a day trip somewhere else and play in the henge.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/10/2025 16:25

Someone changed their crips colour - but not sure if I remember who it was - I know they were big so might assume walkers but if other posters are right and another brand was bigger then - explains the confusion.

Never understood the Mandela one - as it was a big thing him getting out and waving and then being the SA president.

In the James Bond film Moonraker there’s a scene where Jaws (giant man with metal teeth) found a girlfriend, who grinned at him with full on metal braces on her teeth. I can remember this clearly, but apparently she doesn’t have braces.

I'd have probably said she did as well though could have been thick glasses instead.

Jc2001 · 23/10/2025 16:22

AmethystAnnotation · 23/10/2025 15:23

Walkers Cheese & Onion crisp packet from 1983. They have always been blue.

Have you been saving that packet just in case this conversation came up 😁

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:19

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:18

Does this mean I have to stop telling people I played between the stones?

Of course not.

MedievalNun · 23/10/2025 16:18

Re Jaw’s girlfriend - I remember her as having braces on her teeth too - does she not??

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:18

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:16

I rather doubt that. It was roped off for good reason and a group of school kids would be the last people you’d want to allow in. I’d put money on it being a false memory.

Does this mean I have to stop telling people I played between the stones?

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:16

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:09

Maybe they let us snot nosed kids in for some reason?!

I rather doubt that. It was roped off for good reason and a group of school kids would be the last people you’d want to allow in. I’d put money on it being a false memory.

DiscoBob · 23/10/2025 16:13

FOTL did have a cornucopia. Well it had a bunch of fruit, whether it was in a horn or not, a bit unsure. That was it's whole thing?! I have a school photo of me wearing a green FOTL jumper with the fruit. I'll try and find it!

All the others I've heard do sound like false memories. Even the actual Mandela one, I am baffled by it but I guess if it originated in America, their history and geography of other nations could easily be somewhat lacking.

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:09

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:08

It wouldn’t have been possible when you visited though surely, as it had been roped off long before then?

Maybe they let us snot nosed kids in for some reason?!

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:08

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:00

Thanks, good to know it was possible!

I never got to go to Downing Street, it's a shame it all had to stop!

It wouldn’t have been possible when you visited though surely, as it had been roped off long before then?

MammaTill2Pojkar · 23/10/2025 16:05

I remember Walkers green and blue swapping flavours and a cornucopia on Fruits of the Loom.

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:00

EuroTour · 23/10/2025 15:33

We did too. I've got pictures of me in the 70s next to the stones before they were roped off. I'm guessing they allowed organised trips in. We also went into Downing Street and stood outside number 10 as brownies in the early 80s until we had to leave so Margaret Thatcher 🤮 could exit.

Thanks, good to know it was possible!

I never got to go to Downing Street, it's a shame it all had to stop!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 23/10/2025 15:43

Walkers definitely didn’t switch colours. As others have said it was because Golden Wonder were the reverse.

CloudSky · 23/10/2025 15:35

Bambamhoohoo · 22/10/2025 20:38

I think it’s just suggestion. The power of suggestion is so powerful.

i read the most interesting article last year about trypophobia. Its origins can be directly linked to internet and posts asking people if they were freaked out by it. no record of it prior despite these patterns occurring in nature. The internet just said “isn’t this scary?”

I noticed my reaction to things with holes before I’d ever heard of it on the internet. My first experience of it was a wart my mum had frozen on her hand. As it started to break down it became pick holes and the sight (and memory) of it gave me a physical reaction. That must be over 20 years ago.

Similarly I experienced submechanophobia before I eventually looked it up to see if other people had the same feeling and reaction. Turns out they do, and it has a name 😂

EuroTour · 23/10/2025 15:33

nomas · 23/10/2025 14:49

I have memories of walking through the Stone Henge stones on a school trip as a child in the late 1980s and touching all the stones.

However, Google says Stone Henge was roped off in 1977.

Is there a false memory? Or did anyone else do this in the 80s/90s?

We did too. I've got pictures of me in the 70s next to the stones before they were roped off. I'm guessing they allowed organised trips in. We also went into Downing Street and stood outside number 10 as brownies in the early 80s until we had to leave so Margaret Thatcher 🤮 could exit.

AmethystAnnotation · 23/10/2025 15:23

Walkers Cheese & Onion crisp packet from 1983. They have always been blue.

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