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To think this is really unfair

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Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 19:24

DS has done his A levels. He worked so so hard and got good grades. He really doesn’t want to go to uni so has been applying for apprenticeships. No luck so far.

A friend of his has failed his A levels after spending the 2 years partying. His uncle works at a company that offers 2 apprenticeships each year. There are set entry requirements. The uncle has got this friend a place despite him not meeting the requirements.

DS would have loved this opportunity. This lad is now earning £1500k per month.

Just a hard, early lesson for DS that life is not fair and it’s who you know not what you know.

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Kimura · 22/10/2025 20:50

Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 19:30

£1500 not £1500k sorry!

Yes you’re right, it’s a difficult to parent through these things. To be fair to DS he isn’t dwelling on it.

I feel I’m falling short though, what do you say other than ‘yep, life’s not fair, suck it up and move on’. Is there anything more encouraging I can say?

As a family we also have no connections that would help DS at all which makes me feel a bit shit.

I feel I’m falling short though, what do you say other than ‘yep, life’s not fair, suck it up and move on’. Is there anything more encouraging I can say?

You can tell him to stop focusing on what other people are doing and worry about himself.

Fairyliz · 22/10/2025 20:49

Sorry thus has happened to your son, but lets be honest we would all do it for our own kids wouldn’t we?

Hoppinggreen · 22/10/2025 20:42

Well unfortunately life is not fair
I will use my contacts to help DS get Summer work in the field he is interested in and also for any future employment. Its all about networking
I make no apology for it

Glowingup · 22/10/2025 20:34

vivainsomnia · 22/10/2025 19:47

I don't agree with you OP. This uncle might have worked very hard without 'knowing anyone' and has done very well. One of the benefits is being able to support his nephew.

When your son manages to get a brilliant opportunity and could offer in the future a chance to a young person, don't you think he would prioritise his own children?

My son has a good job and he got it of his own accord. Most young people do.

Most young people have good jobs they got of their own accord? Well that’s not true is it? And most people wouldn’t engage in blatant nepotism, no.

Jellybunny56 · 22/10/2025 20:32

It can be unfair, but I do think in my own experience & that of my friends these kind of situations are getting to be much less common. Hiring & interview processes, especially for big companies, involve so many hoops and steps that far more people are getting jobs based on what they know than who they know now.

I’d really encourage your son to put himself out there, especially if he has a certain industry in mind, do shadowing work, entry level roles, attend events etc just mingle and get his name out there a bit. My husband landed his job like this, he started with no connections whatsoever, PIL have barely ever worked nevermind had connections to pass on, he managed to get his foot in the door by forging his own connections. His company have recently taken on 2 new people who did the same thing, reached out on LinkedIn, attended the same events the company was attending etc.

HereAreYourOptions · 22/10/2025 20:25

TwistedWonder · 22/10/2025 20:24

Of course it’s unfair but the old adage of it’s not what you know it’s who you are is true.

The one I know is ‘It’s not what you know, it’s who you know’ but yours is also very true.

TwistedWonder · 22/10/2025 20:24

Of course it’s unfair but the old adage of it’s not what you know it’s who you are is true.

Thejackrussellsrule · 22/10/2025 20:23

What type of career is he looking at? Is there any additional studying or volunteering that could help?

It's hard when they're starting out. My son did A levels but didn't want to go to Uni, he did a 2 year apprenticeship and is now in his final year of a degree apprenticeship. He was a bit lost with which way to go after school though.

HereAreYourOptions · 22/10/2025 20:22

theotherfossilsister · 22/10/2025 20:01

It’s not fair but like pp said, by working hard your son will do well eventually and this lad will probably not unless stuff changes,

Except it’s far more likely that nepotism will win out over hard work, just like how wealthy your parents are is the biggest factor influencing how wealthy you will become.

In my experience after 40 years in the workplace, hard work just generally leads to more hard work. It has relatively little impact on how successful you are.

BobbieTables · 22/10/2025 20:20

I'd set out your own feelers on LinkedIn and encourage him to do the same. Unfortunately it does matter who you know (or who knows of you), but you can network to try and find a position that way even if you initially don't know anyone.

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 22/10/2025 20:20

Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 20:17

Because you stated the obvious.

Ok .. just crack on with the obvious then, what are you wanting people to tell you?

JLou08 · 22/10/2025 20:19

Connections go a very long way, as does charisma and confidence. I'd say they are all more beneficial than getting good grades in many fields. Luck and being at the right place at the right time also plays a big part. I don't even know if I would term it unfair, it's just the way life is.

ADHDwifeHP · 22/10/2025 20:17

It is unfair but ultimately getting a job handed to you by a family member is often not a good thing. I’d be deeply concerned if I was a parent of the friend. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear in a year or two that your son is thriving while his friend hasn’t quite stepped up …

Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 20:17

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 22/10/2025 20:16

What’s with the sarky reply?

Because you stated the obvious.

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Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 22/10/2025 20:16

Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 20:13

Obviously 🙄

What’s with the sarky reply?

Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 20:13

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 22/10/2025 20:11

Life isn’t fair though is it. You both need to suck this one up and your son needs to find his own opportunities.

Obviously 🙄

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Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 22/10/2025 20:11

Life isn’t fair though is it. You both need to suck this one up and your son needs to find his own opportunities.

theotherfossilsister · 22/10/2025 20:01

It’s not fair but like pp said, by working hard your son will do well eventually and this lad will probably not unless stuff changes,

vivainsomnia · 22/10/2025 19:56

Since when is life fair? Your son is in good health, is it fair there re kids the sane age in hospital diagnosed with cancer?

Going on about life being unfair is only going to harm yourself and the onrs you love. It's pointless. Your son still has many opportunities to enjoy a great career.

Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 19:50

vivainsomnia · 22/10/2025 19:47

I don't agree with you OP. This uncle might have worked very hard without 'knowing anyone' and has done very well. One of the benefits is being able to support his nephew.

When your son manages to get a brilliant opportunity and could offer in the future a chance to a young person, don't you think he would prioritise his own children?

My son has a good job and he got it of his own accord. Most young people do.

I don't blame the uncle at all, i understand the instinct to support your own but it doesn’t make it fair especially when the lad has done no work for it. He turned up to one exam with a hangover and missed one altogether.

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vivainsomnia · 22/10/2025 19:47

I don't agree with you OP. This uncle might have worked very hard without 'knowing anyone' and has done very well. One of the benefits is being able to support his nephew.

When your son manages to get a brilliant opportunity and could offer in the future a chance to a young person, don't you think he would prioritise his own children?

My son has a good job and he got it of his own accord. Most young people do.

BreakfastClubBlues · 22/10/2025 19:43

Which field is he looking for?

A colleague I worked with years ago posted on Facebook looking for apprenticeship opportunities for her DS. DH has his own business in this field- I passed on the details to DH and her DS is now working for a colleague of his.

My point is you may well know someone who knows someone, it's worth putting feelers out!

BreakingBroken · 22/10/2025 19:40

I don’t think apprenticeships have ever been easy to come by unless you knew someone in the industry.

Mulledjuice · 22/10/2025 19:36

Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 19:30

£1500 not £1500k sorry!

Yes you’re right, it’s a difficult to parent through these things. To be fair to DS he isn’t dwelling on it.

I feel I’m falling short though, what do you say other than ‘yep, life’s not fair, suck it up and move on’. Is there anything more encouraging I can say?

As a family we also have no connections that would help DS at all which makes me feel a bit shit.

You will be doing some important parenting by modelling a good response -

It's ok to be disappointed.
Personal connections do matter: we are all responsible for our own reputation. Yes this boy's uncle may have secured him the apprenticeship but if he is useless he wont last long
Its not that finding something you can be good at (and enjoy) isnt important, but it isnt enough by itself to get you a job.

This isnt and wont be the only opportunity out there. Bitterness is a pretty useless mindset

Scotsmare77 · 22/10/2025 19:32

Eastie77Returns · 22/10/2025 19:31

Sorry to hear that OP. I hope something comes up for your DS.

Internships at the company I work for are like gold dust. We get hundreds of applications every year. This year the son of one of the Directors has got an intern spot. He has been parachuted in despite not meeting any of the requirements and my manager, who reports to the Director, has admitted it’s pure nepotism. It’s completely outrageous, made worse by the fact this kid will be shadowing my team for a couple of weeks and I’m finding it hard to disguise my bitterness.

It’s quite nice to hear that the people on the ‘I side’ of these situations aren’t happy with it either.

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