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High earner but nursery fees still more - am I missing something?

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Mushroo · 21/10/2025 13:22

We’re due our second next year, and I’m planning out nursery etc.

Im a ‘high’ earner on paper, but I still think I’m better off dropping to 4 days a week, am I missing anything? (I currently work full time with one at nursery).

(we have grandparent help one day a week, so the decision is me at work full time, and 4 days at nursery, or me 4 days a week and 3 days at nursery

Cost of 4 days a week at nursery after funded hours and tax free childcare.

  • £669, two kids = £1338
3 days:
  • £376pcm, two kids = £752pcm
Difference in price = £586

My current take home is c. £3550, after student loans and pension contributions.

I had a look on the salary calculator, and keeping my pension contributions the same (so I don’t lost out there) the take home for 80% is £3100.

So I’d be down c.£400pcm dropping my hours, but the price difference in nursery fees is £586.

So I’d be almost £200pcm better off working less?! Is that right or am I missing something obvious….

If that’s right it’s mad that a ‘high’ earner can’t out earn nursery fees!

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Gimmethemoney · 21/10/2025 21:39

Mushroo · 21/10/2025 13:22

We’re due our second next year, and I’m planning out nursery etc.

Im a ‘high’ earner on paper, but I still think I’m better off dropping to 4 days a week, am I missing anything? (I currently work full time with one at nursery).

(we have grandparent help one day a week, so the decision is me at work full time, and 4 days at nursery, or me 4 days a week and 3 days at nursery

Cost of 4 days a week at nursery after funded hours and tax free childcare.

  • £669, two kids = £1338
3 days:
  • £376pcm, two kids = £752pcm
Difference in price = £586

My current take home is c. £3550, after student loans and pension contributions.

I had a look on the salary calculator, and keeping my pension contributions the same (so I don’t lost out there) the take home for 80% is £3100.

So I’d be down c.£400pcm dropping my hours, but the price difference in nursery fees is £586.

So I’d be almost £200pcm better off working less?! Is that right or am I missing something obvious….

If that’s right it’s mad that a ‘high’ earner can’t out earn nursery fees!

The fees sound low - are those numbers correct for the age range they will be in? There's a big difference at mine between under and over 3 yr olds.

Glowingup · 21/10/2025 21:33

BluntPlumHam · 21/10/2025 21:24

Op that’s not high earner but a decent salary if combined with partners. Ensure you’re making pension contributions because that would be insane not to.

She’s earning 75k. That is classed as a high earner. Whether or not that’s low for Surrey or whatever.

Blendedmumof4 · 21/10/2025 21:33

If you can afford to go to 4 days now it will make lots of things easier, you won't lose your mind dropping the kids off every morning in a mad rush, have 1 reset day per week, and will make life easier when it comes to school for your older one as it will be 1 less day to cover. I found the same that there was a fine balance between days off and childcare costs. Having done the ft thing the whole way through my youngest, and now having 1 day off per week I'd have changed it sooner if I could have afforded it. Good luck. Sussing out some kind of balance is very hard work xx

Mushroo · 21/10/2025 21:31

essexmam89 · 21/10/2025 21:29

If your the same lady off Reddit post this morning what your failing to mention in this is your husband is a very high earner , why you even need to question this is bizarre when he can afford it

um no? DH earns about the same I do.

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Mushroo · 21/10/2025 21:29

BluntPlumHam · 21/10/2025 21:24

Op that’s not high earner but a decent salary if combined with partners. Ensure you’re making pension contributions because that would be insane not to.

I put high earner because in this other thread,

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5423400-to-wonder-how-other-families-get-to-the-end-of-the-month?page=1

the OP was absolutely torn to shreds asking for advice on budgeting a £90k household income, and we obviously have a lot more than that.

To wonder how other families get to the end of the month? | Mumsnet

DH and I are both middle earners, with a combined income of around £90k. We have one DD in state school – no fees, but she does a few clubs and after-...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5423400-to-wonder-how-other-families-get-to-the-end-of-the-month?page=1

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essexmam89 · 21/10/2025 21:29

If your the same lady off Reddit post this morning what your failing to mention in this is your husband is a very high earner , why you even need to question this is bizarre when he can afford it

Nanell · 21/10/2025 21:28

I have a similar earning to you, base salary for full time was 85k, but 13.5% pension contribution knocked the take home pay down a fair bit. I did the numbers and the work life balance check and settled on decreasing to 0.9WTE over 4 days. I technically had a 1 hour unpaid lunch (funny joke cos I barely have time to wee at work let alone lunch break), so I negotiated that down to 30min unpaid break and I only had to extend my working day by 30 mins (now do 8.30-5.30 4 days). That was actually so much better than reducing to 0.8wte. Aside from the money, how will your working life be, I’m assuming you have a high level of responsibility at your pay, realistically will you loose 20% of your work or will you still be expected to deliver 100% of what you do now for less pay? If you decide to go for reduced hours, have clear written agreement about which work you will no longer do

also do you claim child benefit? Depending who is the higher earner, you could obviously keep more CB which buffers a pay reduction ever so slightly in your calcs

HannahSternsBlouse · 21/10/2025 21:27

I understand the family pot situation, but I think it's important to be thinking of your drop in salary and the money saved in terms of only contributing half.

If compressed hours or using accrued annual leave is an option this is a great hack. 4 days is the perfect balance and I highly recommend it!

plushcarpet · 21/10/2025 21:26

Mushroo · 21/10/2025 21:20

@Whoknowshere and others saying DH needs to pay half, I don’t know if I’m being dense but what does that mean in practice?

We have a family pot of about £7k.

4 day fees - c.£1400

so we have £5600

If we have 3 days of nursery fees

Family pot of £6650
Fees of c. £750

So we have £5900. (Obviously numbers are very rough and ready).

To get 3 days of nursery fees, one of us needs to work 4 days a week.

Same here it’s all one pot. The sums don’t change, as you say!

plushcarpet · 21/10/2025 21:24

This is exactly what I’ve done, though the figures are slightly different.

As an household, we are actually better off me working compressed hours 0.9FTE and taking one day off a week, than if I work full time and we pay for the fifth day in nursery. Crazy. And a no brainer!

BluntPlumHam · 21/10/2025 21:24

Simonjt · 21/10/2025 15:16

If you’re high earners why is the household income only £3550 a month?

Op that’s not high earner but a decent salary if combined with partners. Ensure you’re making pension contributions because that would be insane not to.

Blump2783 · 21/10/2025 21:22

TheNeighboursComplain · 21/10/2025 13:27

Why are you only taking your salary into account? Why isn't your children's father's salary on these calculations?

Because that won't change. You could add his income into the calculations but the final numbers would still be the same.

Mushroo · 21/10/2025 21:20

@Whoknowshere and others saying DH needs to pay half, I don’t know if I’m being dense but what does that mean in practice?

We have a family pot of about £7k.

4 day fees - c.£1400

so we have £5600

If we have 3 days of nursery fees

Family pot of £6650
Fees of c. £750

So we have £5900. (Obviously numbers are very rough and ready).

To get 3 days of nursery fees, one of us needs to work 4 days a week.

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Whichhandbag · 21/10/2025 21:16

Notsuchafattynow · 21/10/2025 20:56

Obviously we don't know your industry or how dropping to 4 days will be perceived.

Be aware though, and it will remain very unsaid, that it's sending out a signal. You've picked your side.

I'd factor in what you will be missing out on paying into your pension and ask DH to make it up.

Going part time is the biggest economic risk women take, second only to having kids unmarried.

Go in with your eyes open.

Edited

This. The fact that DH isn't going to do it is where the gender pay gap really kicks in. The financial 'benefit' of dropping a day at nursery is temporary - it's normally a financial drag in the long term as you've ruled yourself of lots of options at work. Fine if you're happy with that but there are few industries where it's not the case.

Amba1998 · 21/10/2025 21:11

Where are you based? 2 kids in nursery for that cost is pretty good

Even with funding, 4 days would be circa £900 per child for us!

Twinsmamma · 21/10/2025 21:10

Finances aside, working 4 days a week was one of the best decisions I made when my children were in nursery, work life balance feels soo much more “balanced” your weekends are longer (if you choose Monday or Friday) you have more quality time with your kids, it also sounds like it makes more sense with the nursery fees! You’re also not considered “part time” so no impact to prospects in work etc! Go for it! Best decision you’ll make x

Coffeeandcocktails · 21/10/2025 21:08

I returned to work full time after having my first, he went to nursery full time as we have no family help. I dropped down to 4 days (work and nursery) after about a year as it worked out better for our family, much like your calculations. I got to spend an extra day with my little one and the drop in salary and nursery fees evened each other out, so we weren’t any worse or better off.

JLou08 · 21/10/2025 20:58

You're better off because of the 30 hours free childcare, you're still taking that so reducing a day is just coming from your contribution to childcare not the funded 30 hours. Your pay per day is still more than what a full day childcare would be x2 without any funding.

Notsuchafattynow · 21/10/2025 20:56

Obviously we don't know your industry or how dropping to 4 days will be perceived.

Be aware though, and it will remain very unsaid, that it's sending out a signal. You've picked your side.

I'd factor in what you will be missing out on paying into your pension and ask DH to make it up.

Going part time is the biggest economic risk women take, second only to having kids unmarried.

Go in with your eyes open.

Isthistheend09 · 21/10/2025 20:47

I didn’t find four days a week better in terms of salary but is was such a tiny difference between that and five days once childcare was taken into account that there was no point to me doing the fifth day!

Whoknowshere · 21/10/2025 20:39

Have you added NI, pension contribution in full, also your employer and holiday days?
how feasible is for you to go back full time after? As this could have a long term effect on your lifetime earnings.
also the nursery fees are half between you and your husband so surely in your calcs you are better off £100 as your husband contributions would stay the same?
anyway it could be possible, nursery fees are expensive and for 2 kids if don’t split them in two, in my area of London I calculated you need to earn over £80k a year to make it worth working.

Glowingup · 21/10/2025 20:31

And yeah anyone who says 75k is not a high salary is either a troll or doesn’t live in the real world.

Glowingup · 21/10/2025 20:30

your nursery fees actually look fairly reasonable.
loving the comments about 50k+ not being a high salary. Tbf my DP is on over 80k and doesn’t see himself as a high earner and moans about being poor. But he is one.

Ireallywantadoughnut36 · 21/10/2025 20:30

If your work is flexible definitely drop down, plus you get a day with your kids which is so nice (I used mine to also do the supermarket shop and general other stuff so we could have a more relaxed weekend).
Do take into account;
Will it impact promotions/advancement
Will you be desperately squeezing 5 days work into 4, or will they actually pro rata the work as well as salary (doesn't change the finances but causes a lot of stress)
Will they let you move back up to 5 when you want to

Mushroo · 21/10/2025 20:29

My gross salary is £75k, which I would say is ‘high’ for a PAYE earner (obviously not megabucks) but I would class as doing ok! I have high pension contributions, student loan and private medical coming out.

For those saying DH should be paying half, he does pay half.

All the money goes into a family pot, the nursery fees comes out, but to drop a day a nursery one of us needs to go part time… so we both feel the benefit of the lower nursery fees.

It would be the same if he did it as we both earn about the same, but tbh I’d prefer the time off and he wouldn’t.

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