To Think that Grad & Apprenticeships are now only for Diversity Candidates

BoE appears to disagree with you. Its statement is quite clear that to do its jobs well it feels it needs to reflect the society it serves, which means addressing underrepresentation of certain groups. So regardless of whether its an issue for PP, it's an issue for them. And it's probably fair to say they know their work better than people on here.

BoE appears to disagree with you. Its statement is quite clear that to do its jobs well it feels it needs to reflect the society it serves, which means addressing underrepresentation of certain groups. So regardless of whether its an issue for PP, it's an issue for them. And it's probably fair to say they know their work better than people on here.

What’s got you shocked? Surely nothing I’ve said? I haven’t even said I disagreed with these points but there’s a sizeable number of people that say every white person who does well is privileged and every white that dosent do well is lazy and useless including little kids who are apparently lazy losers on the fifth generation of lazy whiteness.

Then white people also get blamed for black kids who do badly at school (racist teachers) and knife crime.

You denying there’s people that think this way? Or has me pointing it out upset you?

The BoE are based in London and their staff demographics don’t reflect London’s demographics. They’re probably trying to even it up. Hence this initiative, which is not needed for their white intake.

Saying BoE staff is 80% white ≠ BoE shouldn’t have white staff.

Maybe non-white people didn’t apply. Why is it an issue at all? Why so you spend so long worrying about the race of a candidate rather than how good they are at doing the job? The Bank of England doesn’t need to be representative of the country to do its job well. It needs the best people.

It’s like you have assumed that all black or brown people are automatically victims of discrimination and oppression which in my view is pretty patronising and has been rejected by many successful, high achieving black and brown people.

And Oxbridge are rowing back on this at a very fast pace because they realise that positive discrimination wasn’t getting the best students. And they want the best students.

It’s like you know nothing about inequality at all.

White staff are over-represented at the BoE.

You said 80% of the staff are white, that is not over-represented.

Why would they have initiatives to increase their white intake?

Where did I say it’s about ‘increasing’ their white intake?

Who said BoE shouldn’t have white staff?

You said this, like it was a problem:

“You act like 80% of the BoE’s staff aren’t white.”

So many are either completely oblivious to the challenges of being a refugee/care leaver/disabled/in poverty and they literally can't think beyond "what about meeeee". I remember the Oxbridge threads used to have posters lamenting that their privately schooled DC were being discriminated against because state schooled children were being given access to coaching programmes. It's a sheer outrage that your privilege is being ever so slightly evened out.

White staff are over-represented at the BoE.

Why would they have initiatives to increase their white intake?

Why shouldn’t 80% of the Bank of England staff be white and why is that relevant to you?

Who said BoE shouldn’t have white staff?

On the plus side, at least your daughter isn't a disabled, refugee in need of free school meals.

The point is that POC don't lack the qualifications, we are talking about 100 people applying for a job who all have the same qualifications. If you are Black/brown/disabled/trans it is much more likely you will be discriminated against in the process. Now that many recruiters do blind applications this helps, but you still have the interview process to contend with. There is a lot of research about even unconscious bias towards names that don't sound English for example. It's not the case that unqualified people are being given jobs because they are POC.

Oh Jesus, my PMS can’t take this today.

Surely having schemes that CONTINUE to select people based on their skin colour not their actual talents only continues to perpetuate inequality.

Basing every job interview on the interviewees talents is surely the definition of equality. Ignoring skin colour entirely.

It’s like you know nothing about inequality at all.

Why would they look at the skin colour of a job applicant? In what way is that even remotely relevant to their ability to do their job? Why does it matter at all?

Maybe non-white people didn’t apply. Why is it an issue at all? Why so you spend so long worrying about the race of a candidate rather than how good they are at doing the job? The Bank of England doesn’t need to be representative of the country to do its job well. It needs the best people.

Why would they what?

Yes, I'm happy for specific schemes that target minorities who historically haven't been given the same opportunities to exist. Like I said, it's imperfect, but lots of things are. Thinking pragmatically, I can't think of a better system, although I'm sure there is one. Similarly, I'm happy for Russell Group Universities - Oxbridge specifically, I suppose - to consider an application from a state school pupil differently to that of a fee-paying pupil.

Why would they? Why is the colour of someone’s skin at all relevant?

White staff are over-represented at the BoE.

Why would they have initiatives to increase their white intake?

Why shouldn’t 80% of the Bank of England staff be white and why is that relevant to you?

Who said BoE shouldn’t have white staff?

One of the Bank of England’s internship programmes

Key words there being ONE OF.

The BoE don’t exclude any applicants as a whole.

You act like 80% of the BoE’s staff aren’t white.

So you haven’t looked at the Bank of England schemes (and have conveniently ignored all the other discriminatory organisations).

The Black Heritage Sponsored Internship pays internees an additional £5000 towards living costs on top of the salary. White internees don’t get any additional help. They are excluded from that scheme because of their skin colour and that could mean they can’t access any internship on financial grounds.

Why shouldn’t 80% of the Bank of England staff be white and why is that relevant to you?