To Think that Grad & Apprenticeships are now only for Diversity Candidates

And you call me a liar for saying I got a job after ticking mixed race and bi. I mean tf is unbelievable about that I’m not even saying it was definitely the reason could have been a coincidence for sure it’s not like I said I flew to Jupiter. But sure everyone who disagrees with you on here is lying

I wont take your work for it, thanks

My understanding is that the largest influences on their performance is

Geography, aspirations and disinterested parents

There are other factors, but these are the most influential.

Loads of companies don’t. What’s your point?

20% diversity hires doesn’t sound crazy given that in the last census 16% of the population was foreign born. I’m not exactly sure who is included in ‘diversity hires’ but I am assuming it is foreign born people, ethnic minorities and maybe a few others.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/

If the banks are hiring any less than 20%, then we could say that there is a likelihood of bias and discrimination in their hiring process. It’s already a well known fact that women, on average, earn less than men.

For the banks (or any business) it makes good business sense to have a range of people from different backgrounds - it means the workforce has a broader range of perspectives and experiences and are therefore overall more creative and more able to connect with more customers - even just as a small example speaking the customer’s language - but it goes far beyond language.

Many parts of the UK have far more than 20% foreign born inhabitants - I would guess London, Bradford, Leeds, Leicester, Slough to name but a few.

How? The guy who set up and runs Jibble doesn't measure or track diversity metrics at all. They shouldn't. Just hire on merit, previous experience how well they preform at interview. Their soft skills and their technical skills.

its funny how many half formed ideas support people’s perceived failure of DEI

I could have misheard it could have been female dominated. Maybe she said "almost all female board". I don't think she's lying and making it up. She doesn't care for DEI. Neither do I.

But you know when people want to make their controversial point in front of a large audience they sometimes make things up?

I mean her point was she wants DEI gone. It’s not like she realized who wonderfully her all female board was performing THEN decided we should bin DEI on that basis alone was it? She was speaking with an agenda.

I went to a talk about financial risks and the economy. She was on the panel. She spoke about removing DEI metrics in portfolios and says she doesn't care about it. Just how the company is performing and the returns it makes. She gave the example of the female only board and said "we'll this company is run really well by just women. Should they have to make their board half men half women now to be equal?"

According to Google there are no all female boards in America, Australia, France, Germany, Vietnam or South Africa either.

it’s even illegal to have an all female board in China

I’m not going to check all the stock exchanges in the world, but let’s face it, I mean it doesn’t even sound true.

“Everyone who disagrees with me must be lying”

Yes that would be convenient 🤨 convenient that she doesn’t support DEI because this one female led listed company happen to perform so exceptionally well. And she’s also dumb enough to think that would happen naturally without DEI?

There’s shares in all sorts of world wide funds. Might be in the USA for all we know and not ftse at all.

Maybe it's a foreign stock? People do invest globally you know. People do invest in America and elsewhere.

One of her best performing - I was paraphrasing what she said. She meant the company is doing well and owning the stock is providing good financial return. She's not self hating, she had a successful career in finance on merit.

I wonder if she was telling the truth though? A quick google shows there are no plcs with all female boards. In fact, AI adds this little titbit which says it all 😂

“No, there are no Public Limited Companies (PLCs) with all-female boards, but the number of companies with at least one woman on their board is increasing significantly”

and what does “best performing shares” even mean? No company consistently performs “best”. Unless her portfolio was extremely niche surely your best performing shares are logically the shells, AstraZeneca, HSBCs etcs. Which certainly don’t have all female boards 😭

more likely to be a self hating cool wife who wants to end DEI to pull the laser up behind her?

@5128gap I’m not sure there’s much evidence to say that degree holders who are white and middle aged are not good employees though. It’s seen as ok to have a go at them but many companies are well run. In many cases these men are embracing a broader spectrum of people in the workforce. It’s certainly not proven that minorities, deprived people or women would do better. They might do exactly the same! Talent should be recruited fairly and let’s see who gets to the top.

“claim to be gay when you’re not” who else are you talking about if not me ?
Why should anyone miss out on an opportunity just because they don’t fit any of your holy marginalised groups.
And stay unemployed so you can shit talk “lazy British people we need more immigration because brits are too lazy” etc etc 🙄

This woman works in asset management and she said one of her best performing shares has a board that's 100% women. In the eyes of DEI it should be half men half women.

I wasn’t talking about your fairy story, love.

Sorry Should I of just stayed unemployed forever 😂
it’s not fair to lie but it’s also not fair employers discriminate even if it is “positive discrimination”

A board rhats 💯 women? Was it a company of 10 employees where the 5 board members started it?
IF that company is a large one with a large number of employees then yes, they probably should think about getting a male board member. But we all know that’s not the case. Don’t we.
I swear, we women are our own worst enemy sometimes. Demanding women be the best, brightest, exceptional before they even get a look in whereas we happily accept mediocre blokes running things all the fucking time.

What kind of a shite bag to you have to be though, to claim to be WC when your parents were doctors, or tick the ‘Traveller’ box in a form or claim to be gay when you aren’t?

Many of the questions are for stats purposes and the hiring team for even see them but if you’re the kind of twat who would say you fit diversity categories when you don’t to get an interview for a role recruiting for under represented groups then be prepared to keep that lie up for your career at that company if you get hired.

There was some scheme recently that you were asked if parents received benefits when you were 14.

What is to stop applicants lying about this? Do those hiring have any means of checking?

I remember attending a panel once. Where this women who has a successful career in finance was totally wanting to scrap DEI. Saying it doesn't matter. Saying one of her best performing stocks has a board that's 100% women. Should they be mandated to make the board 50/50 men/women?

An entry level job but you’ll be surprised how hard it is to get such jobs if you have no previous work experience. I did not tell I had a child until after I got the job tbh i didn’t need them thinking “she’ll always be calling in sick when her child is ill”.

When it comes to being inclusive ethnicity and sexuality are easy tick boxes for employers.