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To feel like a very inadequate mother after reading this?

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Rainallnight · 21/10/2025 00:20

I’ve just finished reading a novel (In Memoriam, by Alice Winn) and she says this about her mother in the acknowledgements.

I don’t know why it’s affected me so much but it’s making me feel like I’m not trying hard enough.

But then DD and DS have additional needs and it’s quite tricky sometimes to get the basics done.

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To feel like a very inadequate mother after reading this?
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Coldsoup · 21/10/2025 17:48

ThisGentleRaven · 21/10/2025 17:44

It depends if you try to play teacher, or you are just a parent and have discussions and bring her to various places. She's learn naturally.

Exactly, it's not about standing there with a whiteboard, it's just about having an interest and enthusiasm for things and sharing that with your children. And vice versa, engaging with their enthusiasms too.

ThisGentleRaven · 21/10/2025 17:44

Needlenardlenoo · 21/10/2025 17:06

I could probably teach my DD a lot of stuff. I'm even a trained teacher with 15 years of experience.

Does she WANT me to teach her stuff?

Nooo.

This sounds like a most unusual relationship.

It depends if you try to play teacher, or you are just a parent and have discussions and bring her to various places. She's learn naturally.

Coldsoup · 21/10/2025 17:36

Needlenardlenoo · 21/10/2025 17:06

I could probably teach my DD a lot of stuff. I'm even a trained teacher with 15 years of experience.

Does she WANT me to teach her stuff?

Nooo.

This sounds like a most unusual relationship.

Oh that's a shame.

My children and I love learning about new things together.

I'm going to a lecture this week with my teenage son about a topic he's interested in, he's thrilled I got us tickets.

We are always sharing book suggestions or discussing things they are interested in that came up at school or we read about.

And that doesnt mean we are constantly earnest and academic, we also enjoy sports together, like travelling together and enjoy playing silly games or watching trashy TV together.

I used to do all sorts of big adventures with my parents but I also love that they introduced me to all manner of great novels, and history books, and that they would discuss new scientific developments or politics etc at the dinner table as well. Along with plenty of far more trivial conversations too of course. But they taught me to be deeply interested in the world and I am grateful to them for that.

Needlenardlenoo · 21/10/2025 17:06

I could probably teach my DD a lot of stuff. I'm even a trained teacher with 15 years of experience.

Does she WANT me to teach her stuff?

Nooo.

This sounds like a most unusual relationship.

Gwyne · 21/10/2025 16:45

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 21/10/2025 14:45

I've never seen the point in learning about Greek mythology. It's just pretentious nonsense and they're myths so what's the point?

I think kids should be able to choose what they want to learn about. I did history GCSE because my dad said could help me even though I hated history. He did all my coursework and I very reluctantly copied it all out and learned nothing. If I'd done geography I wouldn't have needed help in the first place.

Oh this is so sad to read. Fair enough not enjoying Greek mythology, but to view it as pretentious nonsense. What do you read then if I may ask? Or do you not read?
I don’t much enjoy Shakespeare, but I just don’t go to see his plays, though I have actually taken my kids to them to give them a chance to like them and also because it’s useful to have a certain knowledge about Shakespeare even if it’s very high level.

LeanToWhatToDo · 21/10/2025 15:53

APTPT · 21/10/2025 15:43

Alice Wynn and Chris Turner? I wonder what picture you saw because they look NOTHING alike, apart from both being white

Oh, maybe not in real life then!
https://share.google/images/YAL4zILRoenBx2cL6

APTPT · 21/10/2025 15:43

LeanToWhatToDo · 21/10/2025 14:57

I just googled her (nosey) and can't believe how identical she looks to her husband. It's so weird. I now want to start a thread about couples who look similar...

Alice Wynn and Chris Turner? I wonder what picture you saw because they look NOTHING alike, apart from both being white

ThisGentleRaven · 21/10/2025 14:58

if you read some comments on some very popular parenting groups on FB or elsewhere

so what's the point?
is being asked about EVERYTHING - what's the point of my kids having to learn foreign languages/ English!/ History/ Litterature/ Maths/ Algebra/ Geography...

People are not joking, it's depressing

LeanToWhatToDo · 21/10/2025 14:57

Didimum · 21/10/2025 14:44

Alice Winn had a hugely privileged upbringing. She attended one of the most expensive boarding schools in the country. So yes, I'm sure her mother could afford to do a great many things with her that the average Joe(sephine) can't.

I just googled her (nosey) and can't believe how identical she looks to her husband. It's so weird. I now want to start a thread about couples who look similar...

Kittencuddler · 21/10/2025 14:52

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 21/10/2025 14:45

I've never seen the point in learning about Greek mythology. It's just pretentious nonsense and they're myths so what's the point?

I think kids should be able to choose what they want to learn about. I did history GCSE because my dad said could help me even though I hated history. He did all my coursework and I very reluctantly copied it all out and learned nothing. If I'd done geography I wouldn't have needed help in the first place.

Because they are like fables
there’s always a lot of wisdom there if you look
if last time you read any was when you was at school
try again as an adult, where you see things from such a different point of view

it’s worth it

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 21/10/2025 14:45

I've never seen the point in learning about Greek mythology. It's just pretentious nonsense and they're myths so what's the point?

I think kids should be able to choose what they want to learn about. I did history GCSE because my dad said could help me even though I hated history. He did all my coursework and I very reluctantly copied it all out and learned nothing. If I'd done geography I wouldn't have needed help in the first place.

Didimum · 21/10/2025 14:44

Alice Winn had a hugely privileged upbringing. She attended one of the most expensive boarding schools in the country. So yes, I'm sure her mother could afford to do a great many things with her that the average Joe(sephine) can't.

Coldsoup · 21/10/2025 14:28

HeddaGarbled · 21/10/2025 14:18

It’s the dedication I deem pretentious, not the educational topics.

Why?

user793847984375948 · 21/10/2025 14:24

My parents read me classical literature and I do feel bad I don't read enough of it to my daughter, but above all else. My daughter knows she is loved and protected. I'm teaching her financial literacy and supporting her into what I hope is an enjoyable time on this earth.

I do believe this is what she will remember me for above all else, even if I did read endless classical literature all the time.

ThisGentleRaven · 21/10/2025 14:22

HeddaGarbled · 21/10/2025 14:18

It’s the dedication I deem pretentious, not the educational topics.

what? actual parenting?

Care to elaborate because I genuinely do not understand what you mean here.

TheaBrandt1 · 21/10/2025 14:20

My Dd is doing classics A level at a state school. Thinking about it Dh did read children’s classics to her as a child - maybe he will get a dedication!

Gwyne · 21/10/2025 14:18

HeddaGarbled · 21/10/2025 14:18

It’s the dedication I deem pretentious, not the educational topics.

Why?

HeddaGarbled · 21/10/2025 14:18

It’s the dedication I deem pretentious, not the educational topics.

ThisGentleRaven · 21/10/2025 14:07

HeddaGarbled · 21/10/2025 01:01

Pretentious horseshit. You’re fine.

Kids learn about Greek mythology in Primary School, local state schools even do a fancy dress day based on it

Kung Fu Panda is based roughly in Imperial China

You must have really low standards to call "pretentious' normal subjects that can easily come to the attention and interest of young kids, and start a discussion and more learning about them.

TheaBrandt1 · 21/10/2025 13:54

I would love to know the mums tricks. Dh and I have tried to introduce our teens to our sports both derided and rejected. To be fair they each do a thing each just very different one to ours!

That said I have instilled in both mine a love of drinking cocktails by a pool while reading not sure how great that is.

Crunchymum · 21/10/2025 13:50

ThisGentleRaven · 21/10/2025 12:23

reverse snobbery is only a way for people to make themselves feel better, it's sad for the kids really.

Considering the average reading age in the UK is age 9-11, I agree we have a lot of 'poor kids' that had huge issues with access to books and reading support growing up.

It's very important for me that my children love to read. The content isn't important (within reason)

ThisGentleRaven · 21/10/2025 13:47

Crunchymum · 21/10/2025 13:38

And I couldn't imagine being so pretentious that I'd consider someone anti-intellectual because their mother didn't teach them about Greek mythology and Chinese history.

no one said that at all, the poster was merely replying to the smug and dismissive "Pretentious horseshit" comment.

Coldsoup · 21/10/2025 13:43

Crunchymum · 21/10/2025 13:38

And I couldn't imagine being so pretentious that I'd consider someone anti-intellectual because their mother didn't teach them about Greek mythology and Chinese history.

That's quite a leap.
The people calling this description of a mother pretentious are self-evidently anti-intellectual. That doesn't mean anyone who parents differently is.

Crunchymum · 21/10/2025 13:38

Coldsoup · 21/10/2025 11:58

I can't imagine being so anti - intellectual that I would refer to this as pretentious.

And I couldn't imagine being so pretentious that I'd consider someone anti-intellectual because their mother didn't teach them about Greek mythology and Chinese history.

SleepyLlamaFace · 21/10/2025 12:51

I completely agree, no need for inadequacy just love them and indulge their interests! That's all her Mum has done - they just had a shared interest in more academic pursuits so it seems more profound.