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VeterinaryCareAssistant · 21/10/2025 09:56

hnwis · 20/10/2025 22:48

Male sixth formers. Comment along the lines of ‘you’ll appreciate that one day’. I’m horrified. I thought schools were meant to be tackling, not promoting misogyny…

Pretty sure they've been appreciating "that" since they were about 12 or 13.

Hallamlass · 21/10/2025 09:55

Is this an independent school, by any chance, @hnwis ?

Hallamlass · 21/10/2025 09:55

Beedeeoh · 21/10/2025 09:52

But presumably this was a throwaway comment made up on the hop, so it's very possible he hadn't given it that depth of thought? I don't get the laser focus on semantics here.

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... because he's a HT and cannot make "throwaway comments" to students in his care about young women he has observed.
No teacher could, actually.

Beedeeoh · 21/10/2025 09:52

Yellowe · 21/10/2025 09:46

They think it’s highly unlikely an adult man said to a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds that they would come to appreciate ‘scantily-clad’ women’s bodies one day.

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But presumably this was a throwaway comment made up on the hop, so it's very possible he hadn't given it that depth of thought? I don't get the laser focus on semantics here.

Yellowe · 21/10/2025 09:46

Beedeeoh · 21/10/2025 09:38

Not sure why so many posters feel it's impossible a headteacher said this and are so keen to disbelieve it happened. I don't know if he did or didn't say it but as with any line of work there is no shortage of misogynism (and worse) amongst headteachers. Look at Lee Brumby for a recent conviction. It's far from impossible that this happened just as the child reported.

This should be escalated and investigated through the proper channels, please follow the process in the safeguarding policy for reporting concerns about senior leaders.

They think it’s highly unlikely an adult man said to a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds that they would come to appreciate ‘scantily-clad’ women’s bodies one day.

Hallamlass · 21/10/2025 09:42

@Beedeeoh it's difficult to believe because a HT making those remarks in front of students is so extraordinary and careless, why risk your career?
However, it's entirely possible that this man is so arrogant, and so ignorant of his Safeguarding and Child Protection duties that he would risk his career with very embarrassing and damaging situation like this.
So it needs to be reported, and I don't know why anyone would hesitate. It's not the 1980s.

Almost2026 · 21/10/2025 09:42

hnwis · 21/10/2025 08:40

And this makes it acceptable?

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Well that version, means they will appreciate being dressed appropriately for the weather as opposed to the boys appropriating their lack of clothes.

I tell my daughter who refuses to wear a coat to school, one day she will realise being warm is better then being fashionable.

Beedeeoh · 21/10/2025 09:38

Not sure why so many posters feel it's impossible a headteacher said this and are so keen to disbelieve it happened. I don't know if he did or didn't say it but as with any line of work there is no shortage of misogynism (and worse) amongst headteachers. Look at Lee Brumby for a recent conviction. It's far from impossible that this happened just as the child reported.

This should be escalated and investigated through the proper channels, please follow the process in the safeguarding policy for reporting concerns about senior leaders.

Hallamlass · 21/10/2025 09:27

Even if it was a while ago, report it.
This is very serious.

MimiGC · 21/10/2025 09:22

If you’re in the UK, the young women were unlikely to have been scantily clad yesterday, as it’s been cold and chucking it down with rain all day nearly everywhere. So, if it happened a while ago, I wouldn’t bother reporting it now…I would just bank it and maybe just be alert for any other signs of inappropriate conversation.

Hallamlass · 21/10/2025 09:03

If you believe this, then you have a duty to report this HT for these wildly inappropriate, misogynistic, sexual remarks shared with school students under his supervision. I don't know you're hesitating.
Contact the CEO of the MAT, or the Chair of Governors and report him to Ofsted.
He's toast.

ilovesooty · 21/10/2025 08:59

Screamingabdabz · 20/10/2025 23:26

I wouldn't report it. I’d be writing to him and asking him to explain himself and why he thought that was an appropriate comment. And copy in the Academy Trust CEO.

That is reporting it, isn't it?

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hnwis · 21/10/2025 08:40

tripleginandtonic · 21/10/2025 08:27

This.

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And this makes it acceptable?

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tripleginandtonic · 21/10/2025 08:27

DrearyDiary · 20/10/2025 23:35

I don't think your boy has understood or reported it correctly. For a start the HT will be well aware that the boys appreciate "it" now.

This.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 21/10/2025 08:22

Did he hear the whole conversation and it wasn't "they need to put on a jumper in this weather, you'll appreciate that one day"

NellieElephantine · 21/10/2025 07:42

hnwis · 20/10/2025 22:27

On a school trip, to remark on a couple of scantily clad young women walking past, to the sixth formers he’s with.

Was it your son who referred to them as scantily clad @hnwis ?

Hallamlass · 21/10/2025 07:41

What kind of trip was this? It's exceptionally unusual for a HT to go on a school trip, especially with post 16.

TheNightingalesStarling · 21/10/2025 07:40

Full context? Did he hear the whole conversation? A completely unrelated remark ad they walked past? Was your son the person he said it too?

Someone can not be lying while not telling the whole truth.

DNAwrangler · 21/10/2025 07:38

Must be a misunderstanding surely. I mean he knows that ‘one day’ is already well and truly here for 17 year olds, surely?!

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hnwis · 21/10/2025 07:35

HeddaGarbled · 20/10/2025 23:18

You’ll appreciate that ONE DAY? To 17-18 year-old boys? Bollocks.

As in you don’t believe he said it?

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NellieElephantine · 20/10/2025 23:37

Screamingabdabz · 20/10/2025 23:26

I wouldn't report it. I’d be writing to him and asking him to explain himself and why he thought that was an appropriate comment. And copy in the Academy Trust CEO.

Before querying if that was actually said?

DrearyDiary · 20/10/2025 23:35

I don't think your boy has understood or reported it correctly. For a start the HT will be well aware that the boys appreciate "it" now.

Screamingabdabz · 20/10/2025 23:26

I wouldn't report it. I’d be writing to him and asking him to explain himself and why he thought that was an appropriate comment. And copy in the Academy Trust CEO.

HeddaGarbled · 20/10/2025 23:18

You’ll appreciate that ONE DAY? To 17-18 year-old boys? Bollocks.

NellieElephantine · 20/10/2025 22:57

hnwis · 20/10/2025 22:56

My child did - of course I don’t know if it’s been exaggerated for effect but I don’t think so knowing my child.. and the head in question… not sure it’s my place to report it?

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Reporting as hearsay or fact?