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To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?

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Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 14:31

Dd15 is adamant that she doesn’t want to go to prom next summer. Dh and I have always said it’s her choice, she can decide later once tickets are out, and she can wear whatever she prefers. We’re really not at all bothered either way. She is quiet and introverted but can be very black and white with some opinions. She generally keeps these to herself but if she really cares about something, will speak up.

This weekend her cousin, also 15, went for a prom dress appointment and invited dd and me along with sil. The cousins are great friends and dniece had said she knew dd wasn’t interested in prom, but she wanted her opinion and dd agreed happily. We had a nice day out and dniece picked a lovely dress, we had lunch, it was all good. That afternoon we all went back to mil’s house as the dress shop was in the town where she lives. The dress and prom was talked about which was to be expected, but mil then kept on and on about dd not going, not picking a dress, and it turned into an attack on dd for being quiet, having few friends, being boring, not being as pretty and feminine as her cousin, criticising her choice of clothes and hairstyle, it was relentless. Sil told her to stop and cousin was also crying.

Dd was very upset so I said I thought we would best leave, but mil carried on, literally as we’re getting shoes on, that no one would care if dd was there or not, saying she was brainwashed by the woke nonsense in schools now, and that dd would never have a boyfriend if she carried on looking and behaving the way she did. Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. Mil was screaming back that dd and I weren’t welcome anyway, and we left her hollering.

This is not the first time mil has been critical of dd but definitely the worst. In the past we’ve been able to shield dd from it but as she gets older, it’s obvious that other gc are favoured. Dd likes shorter hair, trousers, doesn’t use makeup, is quite academic. She likes what she likes and is quite happy with who she is.
Mil isn’t sliding into dementia, she’s just a critical miserable creature. She has always been like this. She called dh to complain about dd before we even got home and has demanded an apology.

Anyway dd is now saying she doesn’t want to see her again, not at Christmas, not at anything. She won’t apologise and honestly, I agree with her. Cousin was shocked and also has said she doesn’t want to be around her again, but sil is trying to get everyone to clear the air. It just feels like finally a lot of things have been said that were rumbling in the background and if mil wants to be rid of dd, then let her. I just feel incredibly sad that this has all blown up on a day that was really lovely for dniece. I know sil wants everyone to get along but this feels like it’s gone too far now. Dh is stuck between agreeing with dd and not wanting to fight with his sister.

What do I do now? I would have no problem with never seeing mil again. Dh can do whatever he sees fit. I don’t see how I can force dd to apologise and I’m not prepared to put her in the firing line again. Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

OP posts:
ExpressCheckout · 20/10/2025 16:07

Team #DD

Girlof6 · 20/10/2025 16:07

What’s your dh said? Agree your daughter shouldn’t apologise.

BoredZelda · 20/10/2025 16:07

GasPanic · 20/10/2025 15:51

"She has always been like this."

This is the endpoint if you tolerate that sort of behaviour.

It should have been made clear to her years ago that this wasn't acceptable.

💯

Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 16:06

Thanks for the support, even the ones criticising me. Believe me, I’m wondering how it got so far. The op was getting kind of long so I maybe didn't explain how it came about so well.

First it was little digs, so talking about the dress dniece chose and mil would say ‘oh not your sort of thing at all, it’s not black dd’, asking dniece why she invited us (and not her), implying we would be no use as an opinion. Sil tends to stick to simple factual responses, she’s had a lifetime of this stuff.
Then we were talking about hair and jewellery stuff, again mil was dismissive of dd ‘your hair wouldn’t be long enough for that style’, ‘you never wear nice jewellery so it wouldn’t matter’. Writing it out seems like it could be nothing but it’s the tone, the slightly sneery way it’s said, it’s hard to explain.

The character attack came when I was out of the room, I came back from the bathroom and sil was telling mil to stop, I don’t know exactly what had been said before but mil carried on with comments that dd should be more like her cousin, that she would just sit and look miserable like she always does, that she was boring and always wearing black. I will admit I froze, sil was shouting that was enough, I then said to dd ‘we’re going’ and went to the hall where the shoes were.

Dd was putting her boots on, lots of laces so it wasn’t quick. Mil came after us and was ranting the woke stuff. I was shaking with anger but didn’t want to lose it, I’ve spent 20 plus years treading on eggshells around this woman. I am ashamed that it wasn’t me that spoke up. I am so proud of my dd that she did.

Dd has spoken to dniece and they both were upset about it, but not at each other. They will be fine. Neither family lives in the same town as mil so it’s not a problem to avoid her at all.

If it wasn’t for sil also being upset I would walk away and never look back. Sil is lovely and I think both she and dh have put up with a lot. Fil died some years back now. I suspect sil can see that if we cut ties, she will be stuck with the baggage now. Dh is stuck wanting to protect everyone.

As for the ‘woke’ comments, dd is very clear that she is female, she just likes to wear black, trousers, have a shorter haircut and chunky boots. She likes weird Japanese music and maths, reading and gaming. She has a few close friends, male and female, who I guess would also be considered eccentric in their style, but they are all brilliant kids. Mil just came across the word ‘woke’ online and decided to use it as an insult. Dd is fantastic, and I am happy to keep her away from toxic relatives.

OP posts:
BoredZelda · 20/10/2025 16:05

DD should not apologise, but how on earth did you let it get to that stage. Clearly MIL was in the wrong, but after comment 1, I’d have stepped in and stopped it, if comment 2 came, we’d have shoes on and be leaving. You’re right to back her now, but that backing should have started way sooner. If DH is torn on this, then you also have a DH problem.

Shell18celhave · 20/10/2025 16:05

Well done to your DD. Sounds like she did well standing up to the old dragon.

shhblackbag · 20/10/2025 16:04

Show your daughter she matters. Keep backing her.

Teeteringpiles555 · 20/10/2025 16:04

I can’t understand why your sil is trying to act as peacemaker when she witnessed what happened and her own dd was crying. How come she is defending her mum?

Agree with PP’s that your husband’s place should not be as a referee in the middle but defending his dd. He should be saying to his mother that she stepped out of line.

diddl · 20/10/2025 16:03

Why is SIL getting involved?

If MIL wants to apologise she can do.

1dayatatime · 20/10/2025 16:02

grapesstrawberriespleass · 20/10/2025 15:43

Not polite?! Of course it wasn’t polite. How do you ‘politely’ respond to being attacked? She’s a 15 year old, the MIL is an adult and knows better. No wonder the daughter snapped. Who cares that she name called her grandparent?! You don’t automatically respect your elders simply because they’re older.

Ultimately at 15 it is your DD decision to apologise or not and whether to ever see her grandmother again or not.

My advice is for your DD is to get in first and be the "better person" and apologise in writing for the name calling of her grandmother, that it was "juvenile and that she should have known better ".

However given the incredibly horrible things the grandmother has said that will cause long lasting issues to a 15 year girl, that she stands by her decision not to see her grandmother again and will avoid family events if she is present.

I would also explain to your DH whether he wishes to side with his daughter or his mother and that you don't mind which, but you will be supporting your daughter

Boxfreshrussell · 20/10/2025 16:01

Absolutely no apology needed. Your poor DD. I would be telling MIL that I’m happy with my DD being anything in life as long as she doesn’t turn out like you (MIL). I wouldn’t have anything to do with her again.

Shoulderscuff · 20/10/2025 16:01

Any decent parent wouldn't have allowed this miserable woman near their children.
Any decent parent would have shut her down with the very first insult.
But you allowed her to go on and insulting at length your childs looks, personality, and her future prospects?
How could any decent, normal parent allow their precious child be victim to such a sustained verbal assault?

Utterly shameful.
Poor child.
I hope she confides in a trusted adult like a teacher, to the type of abuse she has suffered in her parents presence.

Hard to believe this could be real.

PGmicstand · 20/10/2025 16:00

The only apology owed is from MIL. A very heartfelt one.

How dare she.

Lengokengo · 20/10/2025 16:00

She won’t get it. Those with favourites who make bitchy comments simply don’t.

if you MIL asks, You could say’ we support a situation where people learn the consequences of their behaviour.’ Then leave it. She can interpret that however she likes!

neverevergonnaeatkale · 20/10/2025 16:00

Your poor daughter! Please make sure you stay on her side and do not apologise to your MIL. She deserves everything that she got so just let her stew. I really hope your DH is on DDs side too and let’s his mother know that she deserves everything she got.
Your daughter sounds lovely, as do you (and your niece)

gamerchick · 20/10/2025 15:58

I'd back the bairn all the way.

ACR7 · 20/10/2025 15:57

Good on your daughter for defending herself but for me you should have intervened sooner and firmer than you did. I’d have been apocalyptic in your shoes. How horrible for your daughter.

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 15:57

VenusClapTrap · 20/10/2025 15:53

That’s not fair. Lots of us don’t share the views of those who raised us.

My comment has nothing to do with you though. I said that because he is asking the daughter to apologise as per the OP.

Heronwatcher · 20/10/2025 15:56

Nope she sounds awful and if you back your DD you’re teaching her not to accept this crap. And also maybe MIL will start to value your DD more if she doesn’t see her for a bit.

I would encourage your DD to leave the door open in the longer term if she can. I’d also try to avoid it becoming a whole family thing if you can (apart from making it clear to your SIL that you are supporting your DD and that she should back off).

Gibstub · 20/10/2025 15:56

Your daughter is correct. Sounds an awful woman. I would not apologise either.

sugarapplelane · 20/10/2025 15:55

One thing I’m not sure on Op is why the other adults in the room ( you and your SIL) let this go on? Why didn’t you put a stop to it once the criticism started to flow from you MIL’s mouth? I don’t understand.

Bingbangboo · 20/10/2025 15:54

I think the only thing you did wrong was not wading in to the shouting yourself. You should have left as soon as she started. What a horrible woman! No apology necessary, just keep her away from your daughter in future.

BrownOwlknowsbest · 20/10/2025 15:53

An apology
I said my grand mother is a nasty old witch it is true and I am sorry for it and she may put the punctuation where she wishes

VenusClapTrap · 20/10/2025 15:53

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 15:51

Also does your husband silently agree with mil views? If he’s been raised by her, he probably shares similar ideals.

That’s not fair. Lots of us don’t share the views of those who raised us.

ThejoyofNC · 20/10/2025 15:52

I think your DD was pretty restrained to be honest. If someone was talking to my daughter like that they'd sorely regret it.