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Newname699032 · 19/10/2025 22:45

So I'm part of a wider friendship group of 6 women. We became friends through our children. I'm closest to two of them much more so than the others. One of others I find tricky sometimes. She's very opinionated and can make comments that I think comes across as critical.

Today at a breakfast with our kids, myself and one of the women I'm closest to whom I will call F, and this other woman whom I will call N, were sitting together chatting. I find in this dynamic when the 3 of us are together (our children do the same hobby), they talk the most and I feel my voice is often unheard (have felt like this my entire life so I'm fully aware that that is my 'stuff'). They will unintentionally (I assume) talk over me or not always really respond to things I say.

So, today the topic of one of our mutual friends marriage came up. Admittedly I am probably feeling a bit drained and frustrated as I have been supporting one of the other two women that I'm closest to navigate her marriage difficulties and now another one if going through problems. From mine, and others perspective, the common denominator here seems to be the men being disrespectful and basically checked out of the marriages and family life. I also feel quite passionate about this topic as 1. It has been present in my life as I support my friend and 2. I have some experience of my own marriage challenges. 3. I feel sorry for all the kids involved.

F was telling a story about someone else she knows and giving their example. I did interrupt her/try to interject my opinion (I suppose unlike most of the time, I persevered in giving my opinion this time) when N, in my opinion, quite angrily and aggressively, physically turned towards me and said 'can you stop being so defensive and let her finish'. I was absolutely gobsmacked and felt like I'd been punched in the gut. I responded that I wasn't being defensive which she double downed on and said I was. I repeated that I wasn't and continued making my point. All the while feeling almost sick at this confrontation. We had finished our food at this point anyway so paid and left. F text me afterwards to say that she was shocked by the whole thing and it was all completely uncalled for by N.

I genuinely still feel shaken by this interaction and don't think I can be around N anymore. I think I'm just venting and lookong for validation that N was completely out of line here? She could surely have just said something like, 'let F finish, I want to hear this', in a calm, normal tone?!

Thanks if you read it all!

OP posts:
OriginalUsername2 · 20/10/2025 09:56

Newname699032 · 19/10/2025 23:22

Thank you so much. This is exactly how I interpreted the situation.

Anyone out there who has a childhood history of feeling unheard will understand what might appear as my 'overreaction', or 'drama' around this.

I've done a lot of work on myself and did not appreciate being 'policed' and shut down like that when talking to a close friend.

“did not appreciate being 'policed' and shut down like that”

I would make sure to say this to her and to your friends. She obviously doesn’t like you but she should apologise for losing her cool. We all deserve basic respect.

ThePollutedShadesOfPemberley · 20/10/2025 09:55

Greggsit · 19/10/2025 23:11

Please. You were being rude. You admitted interrupting and talking over your friend. You got called out on it and you were ,left "shaking, sick, feeling like a punch in the gut". Massive overreaction! Huge drama over nothing.

This. The person that had a go had had enough!

Unless she regularly over-reacts (i.e. you assess her personality in a dispassionate way), you had pushed her to this point and that is not her fault.

I have a close friend whom I adore but she is terrible at interrupting and talking over people in the most opinionated way and it gets old really fast if you are trying to have a nice day.

GAJLY · 20/10/2025 09:52

FuzzyWolf · 19/10/2025 22:57

You were rude to interrupt, she shouldn’t have spoken to you that way, F should have said something at the time, it sounds like having an excuse to now keep your distance from N has worked in your favour.

Yes agree with this 👆

reabies · 20/10/2025 09:48

There's different kinds of interruptions though, a small 'Oh really, gosh that's sad' when someone is taking is fine, it allows them to continue on afterwards. A longer 'Oh that's so sad, it's exactly like Janet and Bill who had similar issues actually, do you know what they ended up doing, it was quite controversial in the end...' is actually someone hijacking the conversation and moving it onto a new topic before the first person has finished. What kind of interruption did you make?

If you feel like people talk over you all the time and don't listen, is it because you are a chronic interrupter and they have to talk over you to get to the end of their point?

Regardless N shouldn't have snapped, so for that she's unreasonable. She should have just rolled her eyes and moaned about you behind your back later.

Rumpledandcrumpled · 20/10/2025 09:44

pigeonontheroofagain · 20/10/2025 09:36

I haven't read the whole thread, but I am surprised at the reactions to OP.

When you are a quiet person used to be spoken over in group situations it can create situations where like OP, you actually do want to say something and when you try to, you feel you have to be more persistent because loud people just talk over you.

If there was an element of social faux pas, it could have been handled in a gentle friendly way with a smile. Then OP, in an equally casual and friendly way, might have apologised and the conversation continues.

People seems really keen to slam OP because she interrupted in a casual conversation! Like that doesn't happen often in the course of conversation with friends!

Sorry this happened OP. Maybe just be brief with this person when you see her and focus on your other friends. She sounds unpleasant, if what she said was delivered in a sharp way when it wasn't necessary.

I’m sorry but just because someone is quiet and struggles to say something doesn’t mean it is then acceptable for them to interrupt and talk over someone. It’s rude. And we can’t say well poor thing struggles so it’s ok she interrupted and talked over her friend like what she was saying was irrelevant.

and so yes, sometimes someone needs to point out it’s rude.

Northquit · 20/10/2025 09:44

Stop meeting with toxic people who want to discuss other people's relationships in front of children. Children have good hearing and it'll be bad for everyone involved.

TwinklyStork · 20/10/2025 09:39

pigeonontheroofagain · 20/10/2025 09:36

I haven't read the whole thread, but I am surprised at the reactions to OP.

When you are a quiet person used to be spoken over in group situations it can create situations where like OP, you actually do want to say something and when you try to, you feel you have to be more persistent because loud people just talk over you.

If there was an element of social faux pas, it could have been handled in a gentle friendly way with a smile. Then OP, in an equally casual and friendly way, might have apologised and the conversation continues.

People seems really keen to slam OP because she interrupted in a casual conversation! Like that doesn't happen often in the course of conversation with friends!

Sorry this happened OP. Maybe just be brief with this person when you see her and focus on your other friends. She sounds unpleasant, if what she said was delivered in a sharp way when it wasn't necessary.

People seems really keen to slam OP because she interrupted in a casual conversation!

I actually don't think people are slamming her (I'm not). Most people are saying that N went about correcting her the wrong way. But she doesn't seem to understand that what she did was rude and keeps trying to excuse it because her friend said it was OK (of course she did, she didn't want to be rude or unkind herself) and people are just pointing that out.

MotherMary14 · 20/10/2025 09:39

I would be more cautious of F than N, tbh. If she's happy to gossip about a friend's failing marriage in a public place then you just know she's gossiping about you behind your back when you are not there. Chances are she and N have had negative conversations about you and N saw it as a chance to stick up for her friend when you kept interrupting. Her stern response (because it sounds more stern than aggressive) may have been fuelled by F previously complaining about you.

In fact, don't be surprised if F is stirring the awkward dynamic that exists between you and N. It probably suits her that the two of you don't get on so she can gossip with both of you about the other one. I bet if you and N were in a room alone together without her you'd get on better than you think you do.

Be very wary of slagging off N to F, because I'd put money on it being fed back to her.

pigeonontheroofagain · 20/10/2025 09:36

I haven't read the whole thread, but I am surprised at the reactions to OP.

When you are a quiet person used to be spoken over in group situations it can create situations where like OP, you actually do want to say something and when you try to, you feel you have to be more persistent because loud people just talk over you.

If there was an element of social faux pas, it could have been handled in a gentle friendly way with a smile. Then OP, in an equally casual and friendly way, might have apologised and the conversation continues.

People seems really keen to slam OP because she interrupted in a casual conversation! Like that doesn't happen often in the course of conversation with friends!

Sorry this happened OP. Maybe just be brief with this person when you see her and focus on your other friends. She sounds unpleasant, if what she said was delivered in a sharp way when it wasn't necessary.

Rogerthat14 · 20/10/2025 09:35

I've done a lot of work on myself

and there is a lot more to be done

Rogerthat14 · 20/10/2025 09:34

3 unpleasant people having breakfast together 🤷‍♀️

Rumpledandcrumpled · 20/10/2025 09:33

I als think you were being very rude, I abhorr it when someone interrupts someone talking and talks over them. And the fact f tried to make you feel better about it doesn’t mean it wasn’t rude. I also find your overreaction, shaking feeling sick concerning. I understand you’ve issues but cmon, you were being rude,

DiscoBob · 20/10/2025 09:33

It sounds like you don't like this person so don't speak to them unless you have to.

But why did you interrupt, and when told to let the other person finish you carried on? That's not normal conversation.

You sound like you're extremely sensitive and I can't help but think the other woman wasn't as aggressive as you're making out.

GingerBeverage · 20/10/2025 09:27

2Rebecca · 20/10/2025 09:24

The interrupting thing is more complex than “don’t interrupt “. Some people love the sound of their own voices and barely pause for breath between sentences so there are few natural breaks in the conversation. I tend to avoid these people but interrupting them is the only way to have a conversation and not just listen to a monologue

This describes half of people these days. It’s worse post covid.

2Rebecca · 20/10/2025 09:24

The interrupting thing is more complex than “don’t interrupt “. Some people love the sound of their own voices and barely pause for breath between sentences so there are few natural breaks in the conversation. I tend to avoid these people but interrupting them is the only way to have a conversation and not just listen to a monologue

TwinklyStork · 20/10/2025 09:21

Newname699032 · 19/10/2025 23:56

The key word would be 'if' here. If, I was interrupting her. IF, she experienced it as such. Which she said she didn't.

"I did apologise to F if I was interrupting her. She insisted that I wasn't."

"The key word would be 'if' here. If, I was interrupting her. IF, she experienced it as such. Which she said she didn't."

See, here’s the thing. OP. I can have a bit of a bad habit of interrupting sometimes, related to my ADHD (not an excuse, but an explanation). It's something I really don't like about myself and try to work on.

Whenever I catch myself doing it, as soon as I realise I’ve done it, I say something like “I’m really sorry - I interrupted you. Please, carry on”. Or words to that effect. And then I STOP TALKING.

I don’t interrupt then talk over the person, or continue to interject my point, or say “I’m sorry IF I interrupted you”. That’s a non-apology on a par with “I’m sorry you feel that way”. The only possible response F could have given at that point while remaining polite herself was “no no, you’re fine”, which is why you think she didn't mind. She was hardly going to say “Well yeah, you did, and it was bloody rude”, was she? That would have inflamed the situation even more.

You interrupted, then by your own admission continued to make your point even when it was obvious that you’d done that, and that’s incredibly rude. So N pulled you up on it, and rightly so. Maybe she didn't go about it in the most polite way, but I can absolutely understand her frustration.

DownWhichOfLate · 20/10/2025 09:19

Sounds very dramatic. And also that you use English incorrectly to try to sound important (incorrect use of “myself” and “mine”). Maybe it carries across to your speaking style and winds people up?

diddl · 20/10/2025 09:14

I've done a lot of work on myself and did not appreciate being 'policed' and shut down like that when talking to a close friend.

But you weren't talking to a close friend.

You were interrupting two close(?) friends talking.

Oriunda · 20/10/2025 09:13

I interrupt a lot. I’m ND and my brain just falls over itself with all the thoughts in my head, I literally cannot wait to get it all said. But, I know I do it. I really try to stop myself. If someone calls me out on it, I apologise. I don’t agonise about it afterwards.

You interrupted, and kept on persisting. Your friend probably told you she didn’t mind, simply to make you feel better. She probably also thanked N afterwards, to make her feel better.

BennyBee · 20/10/2025 09:13

You are overreacting. You are right that this is your issue with feeling slighted, not hers. It is perfectly reasonable to ask someone not to interrupt to interject their own opinion when someone else is speaking, especially if it is to contradict the speaker. Wait your turn. And try to stop being so defensive.

SunnyViper · 20/10/2025 09:12

Newname699032 · 19/10/2025 23:22

Thank you so much. This is exactly how I interpreted the situation.

Anyone out there who has a childhood history of feeling unheard will understand what might appear as my 'overreaction', or 'drama' around this.

I've done a lot of work on myself and did not appreciate being 'policed' and shut down like that when talking to a close friend.

Not done enough work if you react like this. Total non event.

TwinklyStork · 20/10/2025 09:09

Lighteningstrikes · 20/10/2025 08:55

It’s okay to sit and listen.
I’m sorry you’re upset but interrupting and forcefully continuing isn’t the way to go about it.

This. Why did you feel you had to keep forcing your point in when someone else was talking? I think this is what I'm struggling to understand; why you were surprised that N did that when this is what you were doing? To me it's pretty obvious - because doing that is really rude.

ChubbyPuffling · 20/10/2025 09:06

Sometimes you have to spend time with people you don't like and/or who dont like you. I wouldn't choose to, just when it is put upon you. (Breakfast is a choice).
I wouldn't choose to give them ammunition either. No chat about other people's marriages etc.

I am a quiet listener around people I dislike. That way, when I do speak, people listen.

diddl · 20/10/2025 09:06

I mean N probably thought that you were being really rude to F & felt that she had to speak up for her.

Namechangesecretsignature · 20/10/2025 09:04

Newname699032 · 19/10/2025 23:03

You weren't there to be fair. F said she was shook by the whole thing as well so clearly felt it too even though it wasn't directed at her.

Agree. Dead god if you’re “shaken” and feeling sick at someone telling you not to butt in you must’ve had an extremely sheltered life. Get a grip. Or maybe don’t hang around with them going forward as it seems best for both.

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