To think people are naive re cocaine

If you stop instantly your body goes back to normal, as it does with ketamine if you’re not a regular user with either or an addict. They use ketamine regularly in hospital (particularly in paeds) and cocaine in dentistry so it’s not inherently dangerous, it’s the quantities and regularity they’re used that causes the issues, like alcohol, but alcohol is worse as it’s only medicated in a hospital setting if you’re an alcoholic.

Cocaine is often very normalised in certain social circles, but that doesn’t make it harmless. It’s extremely damaging to both physical and mental health, and the supply chain is riddled with exploitation and violence. I used to be around it often, and sometimes you need to remove yourself from those circles just to get a reality check. People who do it just make excuses.

You told us earlier didn’t you? Because they’re badly brought up?

Well if it is so common then only a few people left to be naive. Shame we are surrounded by losers then. I hope the twats doing it at nursery schools places get what they deserve.

Why do people do ketamine knowing the bladder damage risks? I assume with cocaine if you stop slowly slowly your body goes back to normal

No, her infertility is not from drugs. That is not something you can measure.

and yes, you sound unbelievably bitter and unhappy.

Can you point me to any studies showing this? It would be helpful for my job (most of the perpetrators I come across are using cocaine and it does seem linked to their perpetrating behaviour).

What are you talking about? Point out where I've said this happens?

So glad I don't voluntarily ingest harmful substances to feel high.

My background is in health research and there is clear evidence that regular cocaine use is associated with increased aggression in men.

I think this is less class related more trade related. The building trade is, and has for a very, very long time been, swimming in illegal drugs.

It is common in DP's social group, but not mine, because our social backgrounds are very different. He's a tradesman, I'm educated & my friends are mainly professionals. I've seen a clear social gradient to its use. Many of his friends use it and several have had their lives blown apart by it. The number of relationships destroyed after one partner gets into coke is notable. Amongst my friends, I know a few occasional users but none from the very ambitious / very successful group.

I agree almost everyone I know uses cocaine to varying degrees. Some very occasionally once a year etc. Some habitual and have a problem (although not obvious to anyone ) and I have a very wide circle of different age groups, careers.

So many people coming out of the toilets together in bars holding the queue up . Very obviously sniffing

You only sniff lots if you snort it. You can swallow it, rub it into your gums (if you’re not bothered about your dental health) and inject it if that way inclined. But yeah, talking fast, lots of energy , very focused and dilated pupils. But the full effects only lasts about 10- 20 minutes.

So you're the 'cool' neighbour who lets her DH & son do drugs at yours,,, well done.
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Huge pupils.

I know it is common. I see the affect it has on children in the school where I work. They get pulled into county lines, fry their brains to the point they can't do any work in lessons and generally have their lives destroyed.

Yay recreational drugs.

It isn't whataboutery. Companies cannot decide that some modern day slavery matters and others don't, especially when some of us are only in the UK, or rather our G/parents had to come here because of the poverty and modern day slavery inflicted on them, by England. Influcted poverty in Africa might be far removed from your life, but it isn't the case for all of us.

Are you still in law enforcement! (Police!?)

if you are how could your BIL & SIL justify putting you in that position? Even if you aren't, how could they justify it in YOUR local??

Did you say anything at the time??.

Only people on Mumsnet, most other people know at least one person that does it, I don’t btw, I find it too expensive!

You certainly are naive regarding cocaine OP. About 3% of people in the UK use it regularly. If you’re in your twenties or early thirties and many of your friends take drugs habitually then you are just waiting to see who matures out of it and who takes damage or dies. I’ve taken various drugs when younger, including cocaine, and I would be shocked and would almost certainly separate from my partner if he was regularly using cocaine now that we are older and have a family. I am not shocked to discover that various people I know have or haven’t tried various drugs. I would be shocked if any of my friends took it up again in their 40s (perhaps beyond a one off at a festival type scenario, which I would not think a good move but is still very different to the kind of situation people post about).

I'm not minimising any of what you say, but I think what others are saying is that there's a million miles of difference between the guy who's punching walls and nutting people in the pub versus the frazzled, slightly stressed head teacher who you just assumed had just had a row with their partner/teenage child/boss .

Some people have the kind of temperament where their poor behaviour/life choices doesn't affect a wider community just people in their personal lives.

I suspect you’re right to link them. I’m sure cannabis is just as bad - maybe worse. I have noticed a change in my mood when taking supplements from Holland and Barret. In fact, I have chucked several different supplements in the bin because they increased my anxiety or made my insomnia worse, so wtf does cocaine and skunk cannabis do?!

@JurassicPark4Eva what are the signs of a user to look out for pls? The only ones I know about are sniffing lots and chatting lots of shit fast.