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To not like being around my toddler but adore my baby

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kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 08:38

I don’t know if this is normal but I’ve felt it for a while. I’ve two boys, my three year old has suspected SEN and the process has started for assessments. Quite challenging but mainly the aspects I find hardest are his shouting, generally very loud, even when talking but definitely screams also, and releases pent up energy. Also he’s become violent, hits me, his dad, his brother, kicks us all too. Demands non stop - snacks, tv, (which he gets very little of), he also refuses to get dressed or do anything we ask. I used to find he would do something quite sweet and balance it out but it’s few and far between now.

DC2 has had a different temperament from the word go, so calm, as a newborn, all the way through and now one year old. I just can’t get enough of him. Tbh I was the same when DC1 was one also, up until 18 months anyway! So I don’t know if it’s just their age and I will be fraught when DC2 is 18 months - 3 years.

Recent examples of challenges - DC1 refusing to get dressed, ran up stairs, DH stopped him and held him while I was trying to put on his jeans, DC1 came crawling up the stairs and was between my legs, DC2 suddenly started windmilling his legs and caught DC1 in face. He was shouted at, put on the naughty step and left to cry. Please gentle parents don’t come at me for this - DH has done far too much ‘I know you’re feeling frustrated but you can’t hit’ one too many instagram reels he’s seen, me thinks.

Came into our room one morning and was demanding DH went to his room to get his milk DH had brought him at 6.15am, when DH refused he was jumping over him and landing in my ribs with his hands which hurt a lot the second time. Then started kicking his Dad. DH quickly took him off the bed and onto the floor where he cried the house down at 7am on a Sunday (poor neighbours as we are terraced housing).

I think we are quite firm, removing him from situations or toys if he’s playing with them, he rarely has snacks from a packet, we do allow screen time on Fridays when he’s home but none during the week and little on weekends as we tend to go out/keep busy. He goes to Nursey Mon-Thurs, they’ve flagged his behaviour as neurodivergent. I had a very traumatic birth with him and his oxygen was cut off so I sometimes wonder if that had an effect. His speech is very good, I’d say he’s been ahead of the curve for speaking and early if not on time for all other milestones. Walking crawling sitting up etc.

I like reading him stories, hearing his latest language leaps which make me laugh as he comes out with all sorts, aside from that I find his demands, refusal to do anything and non stop noise hard to deal with so I feel I don’t like being around him.

I guess I feel extra guilty as any 1:1 time I get with DC2 i cherish. Is it normal to dislike being around your child?

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kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 11:36

SillyQuail · 19/10/2025 09:43

I went through a period of enjoying the time with my youngest more than the eldest, now they're 5 and 2.5 it's flipped and the eldest is a joy while the younger one can be very whiney. Maybe you (and I, and probably every other parent!) just find toddler behaviour challenging. I try very hard to remember to view their behaviour through the lens of them having a hard time (because being a toddler is hard and it's age-appropriate to test boundaries and assert themselves) and not interpret it as a flaw in their personality. They will pick up on it if you don't enjoy them and the behaviour will get worse

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Thank you, this is comforting. I absolutely nurture him and show him love but in response to ‘can I have a cuddle’ I get ‘let me watch tv’ on repeat. It’s hard to get close to him but I try very much, he also asks for Daddy non stop but I’m persevering. It’s ofc with the rejection for daddy, demands, protesting, screaming, shouting, hitting that tips me over the edge but I imagine I’m not the first mum of a 3 year old to feel at witts end.

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kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 11:33

StormyPotatoes · 19/10/2025 09:38

With the jeans incident he tried to tell you he didn’t want jeans but you didn’t listen and strong armed him and he reacted. And then you punished him. You could have just changed the narrative and asked him what he would like to wear instead.

This is just a snap shot but there is nothing there I’d actually deem as ‘naughty’.

Kindly, he didn’t protest the jeans. He was refusing to get dressed and didn’t mention the jeans once.

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kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 11:32

UniversityofWarwick · 19/10/2025 09:31

Why was he punished for accidentally kicking his brother?

It wasn’t an accident he was bicycle kicking his legs when I was putting clothes, aiming to hit me and ended up hitting his brother who was visibly there and he knew it.

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kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 11:32

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 09:10

He's tree years old, pretty much a baby himself and strange how nursery are flagging things when usually nothing is noticed or acted upon until at school! You need to start being kinder to a baby himself, no shouting, no stupid naughty corners, perhaps if you did those things and don't behave immaturely and expect a three year old to behave like a thirteen year old, you wouldn't see so many 'flags'!!!

would be keen to understand how you advise we respond to hitting, kicking, punching all three family members in a row, unprovoked?

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Eviebeans · 19/10/2025 11:23

My only advice here is to parent the children you have not the ones you wish you had
they are individuals - no two siblings are the same
wrt the stair incident it sounds like you and your husband should have put yourselves on the naughty chair for letting yourselves get into that state - 2 adults wrestling with a child on the stairs - what could possibly go wrong-
learn from it - buy your 3 year old some joggers or even leggings for boys and show him how to try to put them on himself - reward him for that and turn a blind eye to the negative where you can

AbundanceofKatherines · 19/10/2025 11:11

Also - my babies are now in their late twenties and I think it is perfectly normal to have phases of liking one more that the other. My oldest was an absolute nightmare when number 2 came along and I found it hard. Keep plugging on and making lots of time, attention and affection for DS1 - you’ll get there.

AbundanceofKatherines · 19/10/2025 10:06

When my 3 year old told me “I don’t like hard trousers, I like soft trousers” I listened to him. From that moment we allowed him to choose his clothes (with help when appropriate). It’s still one of our family sayings.

SheelaNaGigYouExhibitionist · 19/10/2025 10:02

My DS has autism, ADHD and ODD. He's 12 now and has always been very challenging. You just cannot shout at him, naughty corner never worked when he was younger etc. Of course we do lose our temper with him at times but it always just causes the behaviour to escalate. We remove his screen time for poor behaviour, which does often cause a meltdown. But the only way to deal with his meltdowns is to try and keep calm and keep our distance until he burns himself out.

He's obsessed with thinking we love his sister more than him. It's a very delicate balance between invariably being stern with him, having more rules/structure etc, sanctions for poor behaviour; and making it abundantly clear that they're both loved equally.

Also, he will absolutely not wear jeans. It's either school uniform or joggers.

Livelaughlurgy · 19/10/2025 09:56

My middle fella had an absolute aversion to some clothes and he'd fight and argue and lose his mind. He also was like a mountain- there was no persuading or distracting him. For a while I was convinced he must be ND. But in hindsight, he's just different from DC1. So I started taking him shopping to pick out his clothes, and if something was important (to me) like Christmas or a christening or whatever, we'd discuss that he'd need to wear particular things and what compromise we could find, like stretchy chinos, polos instead of shirts etc. He's started school now and he's completely different. But also I've started asking him to do thinks instead of telling him what we're doing.

I think 3 is a hard age, because it's hard to know what they're thinking and they can't articulate whether they don't want to get dressed now, don't want to go out, don't want jeans, or buttons or the colour blue. Or the shoes he wears with jeans or God knows what else goes on in their brains.

TLDR my 7yo was a pain in the arse at 3 but turns out I didn't understand him.

TheRolyPolyBard · 19/10/2025 09:54

I don't have ND specific advice, but lot's of PPs have already given good advice on this.
I find that when a relationship is difficult that it helps to do lots more of what helps you bond, for a while. So you say you enjoy reading together? Do more of that. Are there other games you could play which use his language skills? And what's he like when you go outside? What about adventure walks, looking for bugs/worms, crayon rubbing paper on trees etc, learning names of trees, challenge him to spot something smooth/blue/noisy etc? Just do lots of anything which enables the two of you to have fun together and this will help your relationship from both your perspectives.

Tiswa · 19/10/2025 09:47

kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 09:04

Re jeans we were getting ready to go out, I think food has a huge part to play in his mood, he still naps and had refused lunch then had a sleep so was probably low blood sugar. That said, he is hitting and kicking far too much, it’s everyday.

Still jeans are not the greatest of choice and even more so for a ND child due to the restrictive material they are also harder to put on than joggers

those kind of changes are easy

you say you don’t allow packet snacks what snacks do you allow?

SillyQuail · 19/10/2025 09:43

I went through a period of enjoying the time with my youngest more than the eldest, now they're 5 and 2.5 it's flipped and the eldest is a joy while the younger one can be very whiney. Maybe you (and I, and probably every other parent!) just find toddler behaviour challenging. I try very hard to remember to view their behaviour through the lens of them having a hard time (because being a toddler is hard and it's age-appropriate to test boundaries and assert themselves) and not interpret it as a flaw in their personality. They will pick up on it if you don't enjoy them and the behaviour will get worse

Loopylalalou · 19/10/2025 09:42

MumChp · 19/10/2025 08:54

He is 3. Step up. He can read you like an open book if you prefer the baby.

Have you considered that he might be literally crying out for some nurturing? That he feels your lack of compassionate care? Poor lad.

Poppingby · 19/10/2025 09:41

It is absolutely normal to find a 3 year old annoying in comparison to an adorable baby but you must invest time and affection into your toddler even if you don't feel like it. Maybe he has SEN and maybe the doesn't but he still needs not to feel like the bad one all the time and he still needs to feel loved. If you expend some effort in being very loving towards him you will eventually convince yourself too. It is not OK to visibly prefer the baby. This will damage him.

StormyPotatoes · 19/10/2025 09:38

With the jeans incident he tried to tell you he didn’t want jeans but you didn’t listen and strong armed him and he reacted. And then you punished him. You could have just changed the narrative and asked him what he would like to wear instead.

This is just a snap shot but there is nothing there I’d actually deem as ‘naughty’.

Fedup360 · 19/10/2025 09:36

As someone with a Sen daughter (5) diagnosed with autism at 3, and a NT daughter who’s just turned 3 it’s really sad that you will openly say you don’t really like your sen child. Was there any PPD? I get having a sen child is hard at times but they need our love.

UniversityofWarwick · 19/10/2025 09:31

Why was he punished for accidentally kicking his brother?

vickylou78 · 19/10/2025 09:30

Remember 3 is one of the hardest ages as they are starting to push boundaries and their own independence but can't vocalise properly what they are unhappy about. It gets easier when they reach 4.

Just lots of patience op and be firm with the kicking as that's not acceptable.

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 09:10

He's tree years old, pretty much a baby himself and strange how nursery are flagging things when usually nothing is noticed or acted upon until at school! You need to start being kinder to a baby himself, no shouting, no stupid naughty corners, perhaps if you did those things and don't behave immaturely and expect a three year old to behave like a thirteen year old, you wouldn't see so many 'flags'!!!

ComfortFoodCafe · 19/10/2025 09:07

kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 09:04

Re jeans we were getting ready to go out, I think food has a huge part to play in his mood, he still naps and had refused lunch then had a sleep so was probably low blood sugar. That said, he is hitting and kicking far too much, it’s everyday.

Get rid of the jeans. Go for joggers, see if it helps. Try little snacks if he refuses lunch even if its just some cucumber sticks & a sauce to dip. You gotta pick your fights when they have sen. Some you will win, some are not worth fighting that day.

Mewling · 19/10/2025 09:06

kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 09:04

Re jeans we were getting ready to go out, I think food has a huge part to play in his mood, he still naps and had refused lunch then had a sleep so was probably low blood sugar. That said, he is hitting and kicking far too much, it’s everyday.

But why put jeans on him to go out? You know he doesn’t like them, he’s telling you that. Stop forcing him into something he finds uncomfortable.

ComfortFoodCafe · 19/10/2025 09:05

Tiswa · 19/10/2025 09:03

@ComfortFoodCafe that is a really good point I hate jeans on young children anyway but any sensory issues would mean it is a no go

DS even at 13 lives in pyjamas in the house due to issues around feeling restricted in clothes. He will wear school uniform because well he has to, hoodies and joggers or shorts and t shirts when out and pyjamas at home

he doesn’t wear jeans!

Yes same with both of mine. One mention of “jeans” and its kicking off. Ds9 still doesnt wear clothes in the house he just goes around in his pants & a baggy t shirt hes happy as larry. My other son wont even entertain school uniform complains its to tight & itchy, it has to be joggers & hoodie so much that its written in his ECHP. 😅

kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 09:04

Re jeans we were getting ready to go out, I think food has a huge part to play in his mood, he still naps and had refused lunch then had a sleep so was probably low blood sugar. That said, he is hitting and kicking far too much, it’s everyday.

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Tiswa · 19/10/2025 09:03

@ComfortFoodCafe that is a really good point I hate jeans on young children anyway but any sensory issues would mean it is a no go

DS even at 13 lives in pyjamas in the house due to issues around feeling restricted in clothes. He will wear school uniform because well he has to, hoodies and joggers or shorts and t shirts when out and pyjamas at home

he doesn’t wear jeans!

Mewling · 19/10/2025 08:57

MumChp · 19/10/2025 08:54

He is 3. Step up. He can read you like an open book if you prefer the baby.

This. Children are incredibly perceptive. You’re letting him down.