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To not like being around my toddler but adore my baby

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kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 08:38

I don’t know if this is normal but I’ve felt it for a while. I’ve two boys, my three year old has suspected SEN and the process has started for assessments. Quite challenging but mainly the aspects I find hardest are his shouting, generally very loud, even when talking but definitely screams also, and releases pent up energy. Also he’s become violent, hits me, his dad, his brother, kicks us all too. Demands non stop - snacks, tv, (which he gets very little of), he also refuses to get dressed or do anything we ask. I used to find he would do something quite sweet and balance it out but it’s few and far between now.

DC2 has had a different temperament from the word go, so calm, as a newborn, all the way through and now one year old. I just can’t get enough of him. Tbh I was the same when DC1 was one also, up until 18 months anyway! So I don’t know if it’s just their age and I will be fraught when DC2 is 18 months - 3 years.

Recent examples of challenges - DC1 refusing to get dressed, ran up stairs, DH stopped him and held him while I was trying to put on his jeans, DC1 came crawling up the stairs and was between my legs, DC2 suddenly started windmilling his legs and caught DC1 in face. He was shouted at, put on the naughty step and left to cry. Please gentle parents don’t come at me for this - DH has done far too much ‘I know you’re feeling frustrated but you can’t hit’ one too many instagram reels he’s seen, me thinks.

Came into our room one morning and was demanding DH went to his room to get his milk DH had brought him at 6.15am, when DH refused he was jumping over him and landing in my ribs with his hands which hurt a lot the second time. Then started kicking his Dad. DH quickly took him off the bed and onto the floor where he cried the house down at 7am on a Sunday (poor neighbours as we are terraced housing).

I think we are quite firm, removing him from situations or toys if he’s playing with them, he rarely has snacks from a packet, we do allow screen time on Fridays when he’s home but none during the week and little on weekends as we tend to go out/keep busy. He goes to Nursey Mon-Thurs, they’ve flagged his behaviour as neurodivergent. I had a very traumatic birth with him and his oxygen was cut off so I sometimes wonder if that had an effect. His speech is very good, I’d say he’s been ahead of the curve for speaking and early if not on time for all other milestones. Walking crawling sitting up etc.

I like reading him stories, hearing his latest language leaps which make me laugh as he comes out with all sorts, aside from that I find his demands, refusal to do anything and non stop noise hard to deal with so I feel I don’t like being around him.

I guess I feel extra guilty as any 1:1 time I get with DC2 i cherish. Is it normal to dislike being around your child?

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Goldenbear · 26/10/2025 22:44

NormasArse · 26/10/2025 21:14

So she was selectively mute at preschool? What would you have thought if they hadn’t told you? They surely had a duty of care to let you know she wasn’t speaking there.

She wasn't selectively mute though, she was shy and it isn't responsible to label something they evidently didn't have a clue was true.

NancyBlackettt · 26/10/2025 22:39

I think you’re getting quite harsh replies here. Sounds like you and he are in a negative cycle with each other that you need to break out of. I highly recommend reading “Calmer, Easier, Happier Boys” by Noel Janis-Norton, especially about descriptive praise (summarised quite well here: https://www.grovepsychology.com.au/post/2017/01/08/praise-versus-descriptive-praise-for-children)
It is basically about noticing all the things your child is doing well and descriptively praising them. It almost forces you to notice the good (or even the absence of “bad” - “You’re not shouting anymore!”) which may help you realise how many positive attributes/behaviours he has that are getting clouded at the minute. And he will feel that you notice and appreciate him and will want that to continue. Children are always trying their best and sometimes just don’t have the capacity.

NormasArse · 26/10/2025 21:14

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 16:55

Erm, my DD's pre-school said she was mute, she wasn't and at mid teens with lots of friends, lots of socialising does not demonstrate any such issue! So glad I didn't listen to this bollox!

So she was selectively mute at preschool? What would you have thought if they hadn’t told you? They surely had a duty of care to let you know she wasn’t speaking there.

CostelloJones · 19/10/2025 20:48

Also just to say that we had the same age gap and not only is 3 very exhausting but a lot of children this age struggle massively with the change a sibling brings. My DS was very challenging when we had our second child. ND or not I think that understanding none of this is meant maliciously will go a long way towards how you feel. It may not always feel like it but he is trying to communicate with you, and quite often commanding attention means they are seeking connection and the security that brings when it comes from a parent.

CostelloJones · 19/10/2025 20:43

I’m not saying you don’t, but have you tried adjusting things to meet 3yos needs in a way that works better for him?

i.e we would always have lunch at 12pm. DS would be up from 5.30 and be so cranky from about 10.30 and behaviour would go massively down hill. We moved his lunch to 11am and behaviour improved by a lot.

I know it’s not ideal but this was something that was a small inconvenience to us but made a huge difference to him and thus all of us. You can’t always expect a young child to work to an adults schedule and for them to understand it.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 19:34

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 19:09

If the OP's child is neuro diverse then these punishments are going to be pointless.

I agree.

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 19:25

SardinesOnGingerbread · 19/10/2025 18:54

Just sending good wishes and understanding for your feelings. We just can't help a feeling, however unacceptable or cloaked in shame it comes.

You can definitely adjust how you look at life's more challenging issues; you don't have to resort to survival and your default setting and accepting that - the response of anger is the default setting in this scenario.

The essence of life is challenges as well as the good times but I don't agree that you have to be a victim. The OP is the adult and the child doesn't have the capacity to take the lead at 3 so it's your responsibility as a parent to do that.

NormasArse · 19/10/2025 19:25

Luna6 · 19/10/2025 19:13

This.

Not this. The OP has asked for help. She cares.

Luna6 · 19/10/2025 19:13

MyLimeGuide · 19/10/2025 13:14

Shocking that you admit this OP! Poor 3 year old you will ruin his mental health forever if you carry on like this. Please dont have any more children.

This.

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 19:09

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 18:35

I mean yeah my son loves to kick out when changing his nappy or putting clothes on. A bit annoying but as he is young for his age punishments don't make any difference!

If the OP's child is neuro diverse then these punishments are going to be pointless.

SardinesOnGingerbread · 19/10/2025 18:54

Just sending good wishes and understanding for your feelings. We just can't help a feeling, however unacceptable or cloaked in shame it comes.

SardinesOnGingerbread · 19/10/2025 18:54

Just sending good wishes and understanding for your feelings. We just can't help a feeling, however unacceptable or cloaked in shame it comes.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 18:35

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 18:31

I agree that you can in some cases and I have a friend who was in that exact scenario but the OP's description sounds very typical behaviour and the neural pathways are forming and these punishments are not appropriate and are making things worse.

I mean yeah my son loves to kick out when changing his nappy or putting clothes on. A bit annoying but as he is young for his age punishments don't make any difference!

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 18:31

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 18:27

Usually if they flag something up there will be good reason for it. At one I had my suspicions with my son. By three we have been put on a autism assessment waiting list and his school nursery are starting the process of an EHCP. Sometimes you can tell what isn't typical fairly early. My son will be high functioning autistic.

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I agree that you can in some cases and I have a friend who was in that exact scenario but the OP's description sounds very typical behaviour and the neural pathways are forming and these punishments are not appropriate and are making things worse.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 18:27

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 18:22

She isn't! The whole point is that I wouldn't necessarily take typical three year old behaviour as a sign of anything or a nursery teacher's observations as fact!

Usually if they flag something up there will be good reason for it. At one I had my suspicions with my son. By three we have been put on a autism assessment waiting list and his school nursery are starting the process of an EHCP. Sometimes you can tell what isn't typical fairly early. My son will be high functioning autistic.

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 18:27

raunbowshoes · 19/10/2025 17:35

To be fair, if she had done this the other half of MN would give her hate for being a ‘gentle parent’ and demand to know what the consequences were.

What, of a three year old? God, Mumsnet has changed!

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 18:26

BlackeyedSusan · 19/10/2025 18:18

Ah but it's sooo much fuuuun doing all those appointments and being told you are making it up til you are not.

(So greedy, We've racked up 5 disabilities, and at least 8 diagnosed conditions between us)

But that's not what people are saying, the OP's 3 year old sounds like a typical three year old. If you are subjugating the kid to made up bullshit punishments like the naughty corner that just lay the blame at a three year old's door, you have seriously gone wrong with the parenting lark!

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 18:22

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 17:27

Good for you? All that doesn't mean she isn't ND btw.

She isn't! The whole point is that I wouldn't necessarily take typical three year old behaviour as a sign of anything or a nursery teacher's observations as fact!

BlackeyedSusan · 19/10/2025 18:18

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 12:08

Why do people ask this? If it has been flagged up by nursery then there will be something there. We don't go for SEN diagnosis for shits and giggles.

Ah but it's sooo much fuuuun doing all those appointments and being told you are making it up til you are not.

(So greedy, We've racked up 5 disabilities, and at least 8 diagnosed conditions between us)

wildeflowers · 19/10/2025 17:40

MumChp · 19/10/2025 08:54

He is 3. Step up. He can read you like an open book if you prefer the baby.

this for sure. Yelling and hitting only make things worse and your emotional rejection will destroy him eventually. Get off the internet and give gim positive attention.

ThePoshUns · 19/10/2025 17:37

dS1 sounds like a normal toddler to me. Poor chap.

raunbowshoes · 19/10/2025 17:35

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 16:45

You read a book about it, make sure you understand child development, if you had done that, you would realise your expectations of adult like impulse control are ridiculous!

To be fair, if she had done this the other half of MN would give her hate for being a ‘gentle parent’ and demand to know what the consequences were.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 17:27

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 16:55

Erm, my DD's pre-school said she was mute, she wasn't and at mid teens with lots of friends, lots of socialising does not demonstrate any such issue! So glad I didn't listen to this bollox!

Good for you? All that doesn't mean she isn't ND btw.

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 16:55

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 19/10/2025 12:08

Why do people ask this? If it has been flagged up by nursery then there will be something there. We don't go for SEN diagnosis for shits and giggles.

Erm, my DD's pre-school said she was mute, she wasn't and at mid teens with lots of friends, lots of socialising does not demonstrate any such issue! So glad I didn't listen to this bollox!

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 16:45

kindnessforthewin · 19/10/2025 11:32

would be keen to understand how you advise we respond to hitting, kicking, punching all three family members in a row, unprovoked?

You read a book about it, make sure you understand child development, if you had done that, you would realise your expectations of adult like impulse control are ridiculous!