Please answer this question firstly with a number. What proportion of men - who had they been born into wealth and status - would have sex with a 17 year old attractive girl whom they’d never met before?

I think they’d definitely be thinking “I would”
which is sad and worrying

At a party? Not their DDs ‘friend’? Not knowing their age? Yes!

I would say that the vast majority of men under 40 - say 90% - who are not in a relationship with anyone would be ok with sleeping with a 17 year old they met at a party. Then of those in a relationship maybe 50% if they thought they wouldn’t get caught.
I would also say that a high % of 17 year olds who are at a party with older men would consider having sex with them.
Then of those figures would be different if those men knew those girls were being paid to attend and have sex with them. (nor I’d like to think so!).

90% if given the opportunity and I wouldn’t rule out those without “wealth and status” either

I don’t get it - are PPs saying that 90% of wealthy men they know in their 40s and up would try to have to sex with any 17yo girl they’re introduced to, within a couple of hours?

So they meet a friend’s 17yo DD and immediately try to shag her?? Christ.

I doubt most men would despite,what some posters on mumsnet would have you believe
Also why would a an attractive17 year old want to have sex with a middle aged man?
Prince Andrew is known to.be very arrogant, and to believe that the general public are beneath him I doubt he cared that VG was trafficked, he probably imagined she would be delighted to have sex with him
But you can't make generalisations based on Prince Andrews actions.

Maybe less egotistical and arrogant, on balance 🤨

So sorry proportionally I’m going to randomly go for 50%

100% of all men

or are you somehow imagining men born without wealth / status are somehow morally superior?

I don’t think it’s unusual for straight men to want to have a relationship (or even just sex) with a woman close to their own age.

I remember being at school and seeing 17 year olds with 25 year old boyfriends then being 25 myself and musing that the idea my male friends or boyfriends would be interested in a 17 year old was preposterous.

I don’t think it’s outrageous to remind people of that. Not all men are interested in young women.

there was a thread here once where someone accused Charles of having the same tastes as Andrew. Charles has been in the public eye all his life, dating age appropriately.
He had an effectively arranged marriage with a very young woman and maintained an affair with a women his own age throughout.

that always stuck in my mind as an example of people thinking any man would be aiming to have sex with young women, when there was clearly no evidence of such desire.

A 17 year old is a girl not a woman, but yes let’s start the victim blaming rather than blame the grown man who should know better and not use their power and status to coerce a vulnerable victim into having sex with them.

Just an age is too vague. A very attractive mature looking 17 year old? I think a high percentage would not be deterred by her age. A young looking less conventionally attractive 17 year old? I think a lower percentage would want sex with her just because of her age.
Obviously I'm speaking as a woman, but I'm drawing on my experience of being a teenager. I got much more attention from men when I presented older, and only a handful were deterred when finding out my age. When looking very young, there was attention, but less and from abject creeps and weirdos.
So if I had to call it, I'd say 'most' men don't want a woman to look exceptionally young (though some do) but 'most' would overlook exceptional youth in a young woman they found attractive.

70% I'd say and of all men- doesn't matter what they were born into.

You only have to look at gang rapes, rapes during wars etc to see most men are savages when there's no witnesses. Think of that reporter in Egypt.

What’s the aibu?

If they thought there would no consequences the vast majority of men would do it.

80% if they thought they could get away with it and of course the rich and powerful believe they are immune from any sort of consequences.
Sadly they are mostly quite right.

It very much depends on age. Up to 25 most, but I’d hope it would drop off quite quickly, sadly never to 0 for any age band.

Maxwell is the only one taking punishment because Epstein is dead! It was a joint entity. Of course she should take the punishment. How can you possibly defend her?!

80

I suspect most do if they have some kind of 'celebrity' status. They can't go to the pub and meet people like normal people or go on online dating etc. I imagine sleeping with escorts/prostitutes (whatever you want to call them) is rife. It's seedy but perfectly legal.

How often the women are groomed or doing it willingly is unknown. Whether the man knows whether they've been groomed or doing it willingly is also unknown.

Not many of the married ones. Of the single ones a low double figures percentage. Because not that many men are sexually attracted to girls who could be their children. Or if they were wouldn’t act on it.

Do you know, I went looking and discovered that until 2024 it was legal to have sex with a 17 year old and even marry her without parental permission, in both NY and DC, obviously not to traffic or pimp her out, but still, technically the Windsor pickle committed no crime. Which is not to say Giuffre wasn't terribly a victim of, as far as I can see, practically every man she ever had in her life, and yes, our guy was/is an ass, and Epstein clearly a criminal. But, well... actually I am not sure what my point is except that clearly standards have risen, thank goodness. Oh, and that it is typical that Maxwell, the woman, is basically the one taking all the official punishment. It seems to be a continuing rule that ultimately a woman is always to blame ...

Based on men I know well? Men in their 40s, unmarried, without kids, maybe 50-60%. With kids but no longer married maybe 20%. Married with kids 10-15%. Looking at this thread I think I must know unusually nice men though.

I don’t understand your question, the wealth and status bit? I’d guess a similar proportion to you, but would depend on various factors.