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Please answer this question firstly with a number. What proportion of men - who had they been born into wealth and status - would have sex with a 17 year old attractive girl whom they’d never met before?

139 replies

Zippyzoppy · 18/10/2025 23:37

I don’t know the answer, but I’m upset to say that I’d put the number somewhere in the 30-40% range.

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Sharptonguedwoman · 19/10/2025 09:42

itsallsohard · 19/10/2025 00:16

Do you know, I went looking and discovered that until 2024 it was legal to have sex with a 17 year old and even marry her without parental permission, in both NY and DC, obviously not to traffic or pimp her out, but still, technically the Windsor pickle committed no crime. Which is not to say Giuffre wasn't terribly a victim of, as far as I can see, practically every man she ever had in her life, and yes, our guy was/is an ass, and Epstein clearly a criminal. But, well... actually I am not sure what my point is except that clearly standards have risen, thank goodness. Oh, and that it is typical that Maxwell, the woman, is basically the one taking all the official punishment. It seems to be a continuing rule that ultimately a woman is always to blame ...

Absolutely. Very few people seem to realise that technically, no crime had been committed. Obviously morals are a different story.

Goldenbear · 19/10/2025 09:40

Tanya285 · 19/10/2025 09:34

If they thought they could get away with it then I'd say close to 100% - and from research I've seen I'd say many would go younger than that.

What, in the U.S.? Where was the research done? Surely, if cultural norms are too varied if you are asking this question about all men of the world?

ErrolTheDragon · 19/10/2025 09:40

It would depend on the age of the man and I think particularly if he had daughters.

AbsentosaurusRex · 19/10/2025 09:39

If you add - if they knew no one else would know / find out - the answer is almost all of them.

You should also just say what %men. Wealth has nothing to do with it.

Bambamhoohoo · 19/10/2025 09:37

OSTMusTisNT · 19/10/2025 09:28

Plenty 17 year old girls in my friendship groups were fantasising about bonking rich middle aged men. (One was seeing a married man and another was sneaking round with a teacher which worked out okay in the end as they've been married 20+ years). Add a title like Duke and that would tip them over the edge.

Teacher excepted, nothing illegal about it in the UK but very morally wrong.

I sort of was too in the 90s. It was a different culture where access to affluence was very social and location based, and being in the right room at the right time was access to Everything.

i blagged my way into the places to be (the met bar, titanic, Atlantic omg 😭) with the help of being 18 and gorgeous and plied with champagne from rich Arabs. In the intoxication (literal and figurative) of the lifestyle I would’ve liked nothing more than to have been taken further into the glamour and status/ elitism.

would I have been able, in a dark room just me and him, to have sex with a rich old man? God I absolutely shudder at the thought.
It would’ve no doubt, I can say as a middle aged woman, been traumatising.
Would anyone have known that? Would I have event admitted it to myself? No way.

you simply can not take the words and actions of someone so young, who is still developing, at face value.
How they tell you they feel can bear no relation to how they actually feel inside any mature adult should realise that.

BMW6 · 19/10/2025 09:37

LoisGriffinskitchen · 19/10/2025 09:27

I’m sad to say I think any heterosexual man who thinks he can get away with it.

I’m nearly 60 and I’ve watched society and men in general behave appallingly towards women and girls. It’s to the extent that I no longer trust any of them which is an awful thing to say as I know and love some amazing men. I’m pretty certain those men wouldn’t do this but I’ll never be sure.

I'm 67. You're absolutely right.

x2boys · 19/10/2025 09:36

TheaBrandt1 · 19/10/2025 09:33

It’s a red herring question for me. Surely as a flipping prince with all the riches and position lavished on you you should at least make the effort not to be a sleazy alley cat? I mean it’s not hard is it - Dh and literally all his lovely friends have managed not to sleep with numerous teenaged prostitutes 🙄

Yes but PA thinks everyone is beneath him and is known to be very arrogant, as I said I think he probably thought she would be delighted to have sex with him.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2025 09:34

Is this some kind of gross attempt to make Prince Andrew's disgusting behaviour seem more acceptable?

Tanya285 · 19/10/2025 09:34

If they thought they could get away with it then I'd say close to 100% - and from research I've seen I'd say many would go younger than that.

TheaBrandt1 · 19/10/2025 09:33

It’s a red herring question for me. Surely as a flipping prince with all the riches and position lavished on you you should at least make the effort not to be a sleazy alley cat? I mean it’s not hard is it - Dh and literally all his lovely friends have managed not to sleep with numerous teenaged prostitutes 🙄

Bambamhoohoo · 19/10/2025 09:29

Darknessoutside · 19/10/2025 09:28

What's the point of this question OP?
Answers are all guesswork so how is it useful?

The assign a proportion thing is a very strange way to look at it

OSTMusTisNT · 19/10/2025 09:28

Plenty 17 year old girls in my friendship groups were fantasising about bonking rich middle aged men. (One was seeing a married man and another was sneaking round with a teacher which worked out okay in the end as they've been married 20+ years). Add a title like Duke and that would tip them over the edge.

Teacher excepted, nothing illegal about it in the UK but very morally wrong.

Darknessoutside · 19/10/2025 09:28

What's the point of this question OP?
Answers are all guesswork so how is it useful?

LoisGriffinskitchen · 19/10/2025 09:27

I’m sad to say I think any heterosexual man who thinks he can get away with it.

I’m nearly 60 and I’ve watched society and men in general behave appallingly towards women and girls. It’s to the extent that I no longer trust any of them which is an awful thing to say as I know and love some amazing men. I’m pretty certain those men wouldn’t do this but I’ll never be sure.

AhWeNoss · 19/10/2025 09:25

But is there not a difference between knowing whether she was actually 17, and that she was trafficked.

I imagine many many men would have sex with a young woman who throws herself at him.

I think if those men knew her actual age, rather than just that she was younger, and that she was forced to throw herself at him, the number would actually be much lower.

Bambamhoohoo · 19/10/2025 09:23

Eviebeans · 19/10/2025 09:17

I think they’d definitely be thinking “I would”
which is sad and worrying

That’s different though isn’t it? When it comes down to it they’re still going to have to flop the dad bod, sagging testicles and somewhat less responsive than a 17 year old man’s penis against a young woman and I don’t think it’s unusual that that (at the very least) would make a lot of men uncomfortable enough to shy away. They’re not all desperate to pump anything without a thought.

ELO10538 · 19/10/2025 09:22

curious79 · 19/10/2025 09:14

100% of all men

or are you somehow imagining men born without wealth / status are somehow morally superior?

You have to deduct the gay men from that figure.

ELO10538 · 19/10/2025 09:21

All of those that aren't gay. No exceptions.

Soontobe60 · 19/10/2025 09:21

nestofvipers · 19/10/2025 09:08

A 17 year old is a girl not a woman, but yes let’s start the victim blaming rather than blame the grown man who should know better and not use their power and status to coerce a vulnerable victim into having sex with them.

Now now now, are you saying that a 17 year old cannot have the agency to choose to have sex with a wealthy man? What if she knew that’s why she was at that party, that someone else was paying her for schmoozing with that man? if that’s what you’re saying, then you’re saying any 17 year old cannot having sex with anyone over 18 as that would be rape.

MermaidMummy06 · 19/10/2025 09:21

90%, if there were a guarantee of no consequences & consent.

I wasn't even particularly good looking but at 18, once I was in clubs, pubs and even at work, it was constant, regardless age. I also remember being hit on by men in their 20's, when I was 13, sitting in a hospital ward waiting area with my friend, while her DM visited a relative a few times in the course of a month (I spent most weekends at her house). They tried to get us to meet them outside the hospital & thankfully I finally realised what they were after & refused. They thought we were a bit older, I think, but still, we were definitely children.

Same friend ram away with a much older man at 16, vulnerable as wanting to escape her mother's cult religious zealousness & got pregnant. So, yes, I believe most men would.

EmeraldRoulette · 19/10/2025 09:20

The age of consent is 16 in the UK

You mean a wealthy man in the UK?

I'm going to say 95 to 100%.

HRTQueen · 19/10/2025 09:20

NotDavidTennant · 19/10/2025 08:56

If they thought there would no consequences the vast majority of men would do it.

^ this

I don’t think being happily married with children for most men is a factor when it’s just sex with no consequences

Viviennemary · 19/10/2025 09:19

More than you would think IMHO.

Octavia64 · 19/10/2025 09:19

Some married men take their marriages seriously.

i would say that married or not married does make a difference.

PumpkinSparkleFairy · 19/10/2025 09:18

Worralorra · 18/10/2025 23:57

Sadly, I would have to say at least 70%.

If the late Queen couldn’t get it right, what hope is there for most?

Please reassure me this is meant in jest 😂

I think many of us would aspire to raise sons who treat women better than Charles and Andrew!

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