Please answer this question firstly with a number. What proportion of men - who had they been born into wealth and status - would have sex with a 17 year old attractive girl whom they’d never met before?

The funny thing is despite the very high odds every person on this thread will think their DH would fall into the small minority that wouldn’t 😳

I think this is incredibly wishful thinking. I would say a minimum of half and more like 70/80%

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100% agreed.

Exactly in fact all the posters are just guessing numbers.

Having been a 17 year old, I'd say 70% but I'm now married to a man who definitely wouldn't so that skews my view of how many morally upstanding blokes there are out there. Possibly up to 90%?

Also it wasn't sex, it was rape.

What is the context? Your thread makes no sense. You say you don't know the answer but you are upset by your own (presumably made up) answer of 30-40%. How on earth can we answer a completely hypothetical question with a percentage? We can all guess and then what? You have a load of meaningless numbers. Give some context and seek opinions.

Probably the vast majority of us, as most people dont not only abdicate all responsibility for parenting to staff (apparently she wanted to do better by Andrew and Edward but didnt even know how to bath them so sat and watched while a servant did it) but then doesnt authorise those staff to discipline the child and refuses herself to reprimand the child ( even when adult) when numerous concerns were raised about his behaviour. Refusing even to listen to the cincerns of her eldest son, who now has to deal with her shitshow. I think most people could manage better than that- especially with round the clock help. Most people also dont send their 8 year old to boarding school with round the clock protection, yet allegedly the child still ends up havingvsexual experiences at 11.All that goes more for Philip.

Rich or poor makes no odds, i would say 95%. Men are will have sex with any female, they are not fussy. Having been with the military for 20 years i can tell you out of the 1000s of men i have known only a handful haven't cheated. My now Husband knows so many blokes and he says they all cheat and blokes think it is ok to cheat but wouldn't put up with their wifes/girlfriends cheating.

It's such a weird question because it tries to exclude the girl's behaviour. I can see why, but it makes the question pretty meaningless. Are you asking whether they would pursue a 17 year old who showed no interest in them? I'd say the percentage might be low not for ethical reasons but because it's embarassing being turned down.

The question should be would they say yes if the girl asked? In which case I'd say it'd be very high indeed. And if the guy was over 40, even if legal it wouldn't be OK.

20% Just based on parties I have been to where a young girl has been drunk and flirting, but many men have stepped up and steered her away from the men that have expressed interest.

The 90% numbers are ridiculous; at least in my experience. I guess it depends on the circles you move within.

Hmm. If the girl seemed keen, maybe half? I think it would go down if she was more clearly being pushed into it in some way.

But then, that is assuming no booze or drugs. Once those are in the picture I think it could go up a fair bit.

Under 30 I think a lot more would because they wouldn't feel they were so far apart in life.

I'd like to think the older they got, the less likely it would be. So maybe 90% of 20 year olds but only 10% of 60 year olds?

I'd question how truthful any survey respondent would be on this subject in any case.

If it was guaranteed nobody would know and there would be no negative consequences my number goes up to 99 percent.

At least 85%

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No. Andrew has never been accused of trafficking. There is no suggestion he was involved in this. Allegedly he had sex with a woman who was trafficked. That is an entirely different thing.

Also you're stating that he has committed a crime. Not only have you got the crime wrong, but you've also got the fact that he committed a crime wrong. He has never been found guilty. There is no evidence that he has committed a crime. It is her word against his. We can no more say he didn't sleep with her than we can sat he did. It is in his interest to say he didn't. It is equally in her interest to say he did. We will never know.

The only fact is that a lot of money has been made by a lot of people. And now her brother is cashing in too.

Its not that long ago that a British newspaper was publishing topless photos of 16yo girls.

I'd like to think its less than in the past, but the truth is many men see any girl or woman over the age of consent as "fair game".

If they were absolutely they'd get away with it, 95% of them.

Yes sorry I don’t think I was clear enough. Andrew had sex with a trafficked person. He doesn’t need to have actually brought her over himself

Andrew was not accused of trafficking, but rape.

Having sex with a trafficked woman is 'de facto' rape as being trafficked means she can't consent.

I don't think anyone would buy an ignorance defence in this case.

If they believed she was genuinely willing I think most of them would, as high as 90%.

If they knew or believed she was trafficked I do think far fewer. Maybe half or slightly less.

I agree with the 90% of any men regardless of wealth. Working class men raped an elderly woman who was clearly unconscious in France just a few years ago. The bar is in hell.

I've just read the Virginia G memoir extract in the Guardian. Truly harrowing read.
What happened was 100% awful but Andrew has the plausible deniability that she was 17 and there of own free will, so not illegal in the UK at the time. But he hasn't claimed that, he's still maintaining that he never even met her! Pack of lies, I don't believe the photograph of him and her has been faked. Shame on him and I hope the rest of his days are wretched.

Isn’t this a pointless question?

VG says she was trafficked for sex

VG is now dead

i am not the met police or the CPS.

and neither am I a court of law trying Andrew for trafficking. I don’t need evidence.

asking for evidence isn’t the flex people seem to think.

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“As far as I can see the only two involved in trafficking were Jeffrey and Gullane.”

having sex with a trafficked person is a crime

Do you or anyone else have any evidence that Andrew was involved in trafficking?

As far as I can see the only two involved in trafficking were Jeffrey and Gullane.

Andrew and the rest took advantage of the girls, young women made available to them.
Did they know the girls were being controlled?
Or did they see them as willing escorts?

The age of consent in the UK is 16. Legally people can still get married in Scotland at 16, without parental permission.