Has everyone forgotten Jonathan Ross and Sachsgate?

Because of when it happened, it was during a time when it still didn't really matter to the powers that be and he was a big name. If it happened now he wouldn't get away with it. Not that he should have got away with it then. Brand's so called comedy routines were way over the line but he was still given jobs ie: Celebrity Bake Off.

No I haven’t forgotten but it’s old news and I just don’t care

Did you mean Russell Howard or Russell Brand? Just curious I’ve never heard anything like this about Russell Howard?

I agree with @Puppylucky and I also thought it was a huge overreaction at the time.

Yes it was an absolute shitty thing to do but come on. The fact that Andrew Sachs then didn't talk to his granddaughter for years over it - that was his own doing. She did nothing wrong, other than make some questionable life choices, but who hasn't done that.

They apologised, there was no real damage done - it wasn't pleasant but worse things have happened. Far far worse.

Yes. And worse, a whole lot of people have blamed Sachs’ granddaughter for being attention seeking and having orchestrated the whole thing to get herself a career. Utterly shameful, but the narrative persists. It’s never the fault of the sleazy middle aged men, always their young target to blame.

It wouldn’t be possible for me to disagree with you more. Do you actually remember what happened?

And for what it’s worth, I think Andrew Sachs was a refugee from the Holocaust. He must have thought the country had gone downhill since his arrival.

I feel that way about BG. My old flatmate was a huge fan of his in the 90s and bought his autobiography.
I read it after him and was horrified by what a nasty little misogynist he is.

I really like him and always have. The only reason I am watching Traitors is because he is in it. I probably would not bother otherwise

I haven't. He has two daughters who are part of the pro trans movement. The entire family seem ghastly.

I have never forgotten it and agree he his behaviour should have been career ending.

He is repulsive.

I could never really see the point of him before that disgusting episode but I make sure to never watch anything with him in it since.

It showed his attitude to women and his cruelty disguised as so called humour.

A pair of overgrown teenage bullies.

He isn’t fit to lick Andrew Sachs boots.

I would love to be as perfect as most of the posters on here, he made a mistake. Yes it was absolutely awful what he did but it was almost 20 years ago. Some people on here need to get a grip.

You’re right. Just last night I called an elderly man and sniggered while my friend left sexual messages and then shouted “he fucked your granddaughter”

it was hilarious. Such a prank.

"Also the sainted John Peel. He admitted to several encounters with underage fans in the 70s, but he died before the climate of sexual permissiveness changed."

Yeah, DH waxes lyrical over JP's contribution to new music and that whole Boat That Rocked type era. And I say, oh you mean the guy Tim Westwood seems to have modelled himself on? Statutory rape John Peel? That John Peel?

David bowie, 🤯🤔👀

I agree with you. I like him, I always have.

He acted like a complete dick 20 years ago, his show was cancelled, justice done. I’m not aware of any sleazy stories about him, he has been with his wife since 1986 and is supportive of his children.

I've seen many wonderful, inspirational, kind, intelligent people be dicks.

Everybody's a dick at some point.🤷‍♀️

Do you work at the BBC by any chance?

I can't say I'm still fussed about it tbh.

’To err is human, too forgive is divine’

He made a mistake, he apologised, gave up his commitments and moved on. So should we. If he repeated his behaviours then that’s different but honestly this cleansing of anyone who doesn’t meet a perceived ‘good enough’ is just odd to me and where does it leave people who do commit mistakes? No ability to rehabilitate? Ever?

I am happy to just not like people and choose to not watch what they are in. I hate ‘cancelling’. If we get it wrong it destroys peoples whole livelihoods.

It was shockingly disgusting even by the standards of back then.

"I remember JR embarrassing several female guests with his crude sexual remarks and suggestions - Michelle Pfeifer was one. I felt ashamed of British TV on her behalf. She was clearly shocked."

He was the same with Gwyneth Paltrow. Puke. He was actually at his best playing an interview completely straight and seriously, because he could come across quite nice and get a guest to relax and talk, but with any remotely attractive woman he just defaulted to sleaze like they are just fuck toys not human beings. What was the point of even asking them any questions, he could have just walked them on set, got them to do a twirl, slavered over them for a bit and sent them on their way. It would have had the same effect.

Mind you the benchmark nation's favourite proper chat show host at the time was the beloved Parky. Smug git and a self satisfied, shit interviewer of both sexes but especially women.

I hate it every month when 6 music do a tribute to the paedo.
I also abhor JR in light of the Andrew Sach incident. I think it still has shock value today. He also seems talentless?

Ohh I had forgotten he was involved with that. Of course!

why wasnt he cancelled?

Prank call!!?

To call an elderly grandfather on national TV and tell him you’ve fucked his granddaughter? And have a good old snigger about it?

Prank call?

What nightmare world are you living in?