Has everyone forgotten Jonathan Ross and Sachsgate?

I mean, wasnt Cheryl racist towards her as well

Again wrong! He apologised and resigned. I assume he didn't apologise to Georgina because he wasn't the one who slept with her.

This. ^ I am pretty neutral about JR. Don't love him don't hate him, but I do roll my eyes at people dragging stuff up from almost 20 years ago - nearly 18 actually but still a long time ago. It's like people who drag up Cheryl from Girls Aloud's bathroom incident (when she attacked a cleaner when she drunk). It was just out of the 1990s, and she got punished for it. Get over it FFS!

JR was suspended from the BBC for 3 months, then didn't have his contract renewed in 2010, and had to leave.

As I said with Cheryl, JR took a punishment, it was 18 years ago, get over it.

Well you certainly wouldn't be ripped apart by a bunch of strangers on Mumsnet!

It wasn't live radio either, it was prerecorded which meant that producers etc thought it was fine. Also, nobody cared until the Mail ran a story about it a WEEK later.

I don't like him. I stopped watching his shows before Sachsgate. I find him clichéd, formulaic and cringe. But other people like his shiz and professionalism otherwise he'd have disappeared by now.🤷‍♀️

He is interesting in the Traitors.😁

He never apologised to Andrew Sachs' granddaughter though, as I said earlier. I saw her being interviewed on a podcast a year or so ago and she was clearly still upset about that. He didn't bother to contact her at all, or even mention her in the apology he made at the start of his TV show. He apologised to the BBC and the listeners, but they weren't the victims. He only made an apology because he didn't want to lose his job.

When does Brand go on trial? Guess I should not be lazy and google it. As for Ross, he was the father of daughters when he engaged in this purile "prank" what an example to set in terms of misogyny and nastiness

A week later, on 5 November 2008, UK television channel Five broadcast an hour-length documentary on the incident, titled Russell & Ross: What the F* Was All That About? featuring an exclusive interview with Baillie. Baillie stated in the interview that "I think it's way out of proportion what's happened and I don't hate either of them – I don't at all", going on to say "I think they're really talented comedians and I think a world without Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand would be a very sad, dull place."

She concluded by saying that Brand needed to learn about respecting women, while Ross should just think before he speaks, "I don't have any harder feeling than that." Baillie also made clear that she would not object to the reinstatement of both Brand and Ross.

He is creepy and lecherous haven't watched his show for years but tv is still full of them isn't it.

The circle i'm trying to square is how creepy he was towards Charlotte Church when she was about 16 (i think will check) on his show.

Bet she hates him still.

Gosh yes this is exactly how I remember him from the late 90s/early 00s… grotesque sleazy double entendres with the female guests, lots of end-of-the-pier eyebrow waggling and smutty ‘jokes’. All pretty cringeworthy even back then but (thankfully) completely un-broadcastable now. Sachsgate was out of the same box, really, just him doing childish sleazy ‘Bantz’ and not caring how it landed. I was wondering the same thing as OP when I saw him on Traitors: how has he managed to get away without some of those awful clips (of which I’m confident there must be many) re-surfacing?!

Both he and Brand apologised to her, and she accepted their apologies.

Rampant sexism! Wilty was a shock to the system, derogatory comments about working class girls such as Katie price

From a bunch of lefty men

Agree OP. I was watching him the other night when I suddenly remembered that incident. I had forgotten about it, but now I think about it every time I see him. It should have been career ending. Same with Boy George.

He's quite clearly a sociopath.

I do . I listened to the show as it unfolded. I was a huge fan of brand at the time, it was horrible

Sorry but calling him nonjudgemental, you are joking?
He judges and uses it in his shows ALL THE TIME. That's why he gets away with being such a dick to people because he pretends it makes him funny.

Ross was always a twat and the phonecall to Sachs made him an even bigger twat.

He will be forever a twat in my eyes and I can't be the only one.

Every time I see the desperate attempt he makes to look like he has naturally 'non grey hair' he just becomes an even bigger twat.

God knows how he ever got on tv and how he ended up staying there.

He's an embarrassingly non-persona.

It wasn't national TV it was Russell Brands radio show on 6 live

It was pre-recorded and editorially approved for broadcast.

Auntie in the dock yet again.

What happened on the shows you mentioned?

Alright, live radio, then.

Edgy!!!! FFS!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But imagine if I, a lowly retail worker, had called a customer and done this? I’m also lovely to my wife and children (baseline decency btw.) I have never given Alan Carr a break because I work at Sainsburys. I’m kind and generous. I donate to several charities out of my minimum wage. Can I do whatever I like?

It’s really poor taste to conflate the Brand / Ross phone call with what Saville did. Keep some perspective.