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Has everyone forgotten Jonathan Ross and Sachsgate?

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Greedybilly · 18/10/2025 19:50

I love traitors but i detest Jonathon Ross. I clearly remember his vile phone calls to Andrew Sachs about his grandaughter. Along with his accomplice Russel Brand - vile, laddish behaviour. How is he even still working? Does he have mates in high places - people's careers have gone under for much less.
Also he makes my skin crawl and is ruining a damn good show.

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mydogisthebest · 18/10/2025 22:11

I am not related to Jonathan but I like him. I loved his radio show as did DH and was upset when it ended.

I find him interesting and intelligent. I would far rather have a conversation with him than Stephen Fry. I also think he has a good sense of humour.

Sorry of that offends all the saintly haters here

BatchCookBabe · 18/10/2025 22:10

Sagaciously · 18/10/2025 21:12

I have forgotten about the silly prank calls incident, like most people in rl.

This. ^ Imagine feeling the need to drag something up from nearly 2 decades ago, that was dealt with at the time, and has been dead and buried since the noughties, and posting a thread about it!

The OP must be really bored tonight. 😆

BlueEyedBogWitch · 18/10/2025 22:09

I haven’t. I haven’t listened to or watched him since.

OwlBeThere · 18/10/2025 22:08

Greedybilly · 18/10/2025 20:09

@OwlBeThere-- but that doesn't make his behaviour right though does it? Should we all move on about every other pervert that works on tv? Erm...no.

I didn’t say it did, but i can’t get that upset about it either. I also don’t think he’s a ‘pervert’. He made stupid jokes about RB shagging the grand daughter, that hardly makes him a pervert, just a tool.
I think you are being very melodramatic tbh.

NooNakedJacuzziness · 18/10/2025 22:07

Russell Brand has become a Christian in a big way now, he got baptised by Bear Grills!

BatchCookBabe · 18/10/2025 22:06

PrincessSophieFrederike · 18/10/2025 21:11

I do agree he shouldn't be shunned by those who know him. I won't ever watch him, but that's different.

I do think it being a 'joke' on live TV makes a difference though.

It wasn't on live TV.

MyBoldGreyPoet · 18/10/2025 22:05

mumofoneAloneandwell · 18/10/2025 19:57

I mean, sexist comments about a woman usually go completely unpunished (especially back then!) so her being related to Andrew sachs meant justice was served 🤷‍♀️ and their show was cancelled

People in the media do far worse than that, even today, so I can let it go

You should watch some of Russell Howard's older stand up. And the first season of Would I Lie To You, i had a shock when I watched that, omg

Edited

Don't you mean Russell Brand, not Howard?

ohdearmemummy · 18/10/2025 22:04

His clothes make me laugh

BatchCookBabe · 18/10/2025 22:04

Violinist64 · 18/10/2025 21:07

It was a particularly vile "prank" played by two men who were old enough to know better. It was not only Georgina who was seriously damaged by it but her grandparents, too. Andrew Sachs and his wife were elderly and never really got over the shock of this nasty, distasteful incident. I believe they were never truly well after that. Both men should have been sacked on the spot. I have always avoided watching anything with either of them in it ever since.

Do you have a single scrap of evidence to back this up?

!

FuzzyWolf · 18/10/2025 22:04

PrancingBean · 18/10/2025 21:18

But imagine if I, a lowly retail worker, had called a customer and done this? I’m also lovely to my wife and children (baseline decency btw.) I have never given Alan Carr a break because I work at Sainsburys. I’m kind and generous. I donate to several charities out of my minimum wage. Can I do whatever I like?

But if you did and lost your job over it, would you expect to never ever be allowed to work again (for another company, but still in retail) because of it?

FirstCuppa · 18/10/2025 22:03

The votes say otherwise. But carry on defending a slimey man you don't know if that's what you want to do with your Saturday night.

AbsentosaurusRex · 18/10/2025 22:03

A few misogynists this year. At least one has gone already.. Tom Daley.

Stephen Fry
Jonathan Ross

All 3, misogynistic vomit. 🤢

BatchCookBabe · 18/10/2025 22:02

FirstCuppa · 18/10/2025 21:59

Clearly some family members on the board 😅
Or one person who simply cannot comprehend how many women clearly dislike this man, for his shows, behaviour and actions.

Yes, everyone on here who is defending JR/not saying nasty things about him, is one of his family members. Couldn't possibly be random individual people posting, who don't know him, who don't know each other, and are just posting things about him that are not negative! 🙄

Give me strength.

May as well say you people berating him and saying he should have been hung, drawn, and quartered, are Andrew Sachs family! FFS!

Grammarnut · 18/10/2025 22:00

I had forgotten, but now I remember. Vile person. Not keen on Tom Daley, either.

ramonaquimby · 18/10/2025 21:59

It's also ok to not like some people with public personas for any reason they choose

FirstCuppa · 18/10/2025 21:59

Clearly some family members on the board 😅
Or one person who simply cannot comprehend how many women clearly dislike this man, for his shows, behaviour and actions.

BatchCookBabe · 18/10/2025 21:59

Toucan123 · 18/10/2025 21:39

He never apologised to Andrew Sachs' granddaughter though, as I said earlier. I saw her being interviewed on a podcast a year or so ago and she was clearly still upset about that. He didn't bother to contact her at all, or even mention her in the apology he made at the start of his TV show. He apologised to the BBC and the listeners, but they weren't the victims. He only made an apology because he didn't want to lose his job.

When people do certain things they should not have done, and get into trouble, some do apologise purely to get a lesser punishment, and don't mean it. Jonathan may have done this. But he may have meant it. He may have been genuinely sorry. You can't possibly know. You're not him.

BatchCookBabe · 18/10/2025 21:54

Puppylucky · 18/10/2025 21:49

God this thread is like whackamole! Charlotte Church made her TV debut on Jonathan Ross's show at 12 with her aunt - again her big break. He was not remotely creepy and there is no suggestion that she has any problems with him - why would she?

I know right. It's so funny - NOT - how some people just make up complete falsehoods to try to discredit someone they have decided they dislike. 🙄

BigFatBully · 18/10/2025 21:54

Greedybilly · 18/10/2025 19:50

I love traitors but i detest Jonathon Ross. I clearly remember his vile phone calls to Andrew Sachs about his grandaughter. Along with his accomplice Russel Brand - vile, laddish behaviour. How is he even still working? Does he have mates in high places - people's careers have gone under for much less.
Also he makes my skin crawl and is ruining a damn good show.

For goodness sake, he made a bit of a naughty joke, do you really think he should be sacked and banned from employment permanently because of that?

I believe the incident was back in 2008/9, before people became instantly offended by everything and lost their sense of forgiveness.

Jonathan Ross is a quality broadcaster who has worked his way up to the top, not gotten by on diversity hire quotas or because he once appeared on Love Island or some other vile reality television show. He has conducted brilliant interviews with some of Hollywood's biggest stars, including Catherine Zeta-Jones, Paul Rudd & interviewed the biggest named musicians such as Sir Elton John KBE. He brings in high viewing figures and his name sells advertisement slots. ITV aren't going to turn their back on that because once upon a time he left a silly voice message.

Teaforthetotal · 18/10/2025 21:54

Fair enough that some people on this thread enjoyed his programmes and interviews. Interesting though that a large amount of posters here, myself included find him problematic as a result of past behaviour.Shows how times can change,for the better in this instance I believe.
Maybe this was some of the thinking around casting him as a traitor in the current series, as he's tarnished.

BatchCookBabe · 18/10/2025 21:51

mumofoneAloneandwell · 18/10/2025 21:45

I mean, wasnt Cheryl racist towards her as well

She was cleared of any charges of racism. But don't let facts get in the way eh?!

Yes GIF
PrancingBean · 18/10/2025 21:50

Puppylucky · 18/10/2025 21:43

Well you certainly wouldn't be ripped apart by a bunch of strangers on Mumsnet!

Oh, I think I’d be the subject of a furious AIBU? thread at the very least.

Puppylucky · 18/10/2025 21:49

SuffraJET · 18/10/2025 21:36

He is creepy and lecherous haven't watched his show for years but tv is still full of them isn't it.

The circle i'm trying to square is how creepy he was towards Charlotte Church when she was about 16 (i think will check) on his show.

Bet she hates him still.

God this thread is like whackamole! Charlotte Church made her TV debut on Jonathan Ross's show at 12 with her aunt - again her big break. He was not remotely creepy and there is no suggestion that she has any problems with him - why would she?

DarkRootsBlue · 18/10/2025 21:49

@Toucan123from Wiki re interview with Georgina.
“Neil further asked if the apology she received had helped, she replied yes, stating "definitely" to the follow-up comment from Neil of "better to get it than not get it?" When asked finally on the row by Neil if she thought the apologies from Brand and Ross were genuine, she replied that she thought Ross' was, but the fact that Brand had joked about the row on his later tour "negated" his apology.”

HRTQueen · 18/10/2025 21:45

I remember how creepy he was towards Charlotte Church

He played the game and it’s paid off