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Has everyone forgotten Jonathan Ross and Sachsgate?

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Greedybilly · 18/10/2025 19:50

I love traitors but i detest Jonathon Ross. I clearly remember his vile phone calls to Andrew Sachs about his grandaughter. Along with his accomplice Russel Brand - vile, laddish behaviour. How is he even still working? Does he have mates in high places - people's careers have gone under for much less.
Also he makes my skin crawl and is ruining a damn good show.

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Rhaenys · 20/10/2025 13:13

CoffeeCantata · 20/10/2025 07:47

I see that as a family tragedy caused by Ross and that wanker, Brand though. On the face of it, that sounds harsh, but I guess there must have been rows, back and forths and huge upset involved so things might have been more complicated than them just going nc with her.

How this sad outcome, all caused by a cruel, bullying ‘prank’ is OK with some people is beyond me.

It seems like they just cut her off for it.

I found this
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sachs-doesn-t-talk-to-granddaughter-6841884.html

but I seem to remember reading it as part of a larger article, and I remember thinking that they did not come across well at all in it.

Sachs doesn't talk to granddaughter

Andrew Sachs has not spoken to his granddaughter Georgina Baillie since the row over obscene messages on his answering machine erupted, it was reported.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sachs-doesn-t-talk-to-granddaughter-6841884.html

dragonbreaths · 20/10/2025 10:51

CoffeeCantata · 18/10/2025 20:07

I always used to notice JR’s sexist and misogynistic behaviour - along with his brother Paul’s. They both crudely judged women for their appearance.

JR’s daughter, Honey Kinney, has since been very nastily bullies online and in the press for not having ‘model proportions’ and I wonder if JR has had cause to reflect on his own previous treatment of women.

I bet Honey Kinney has had a very weird and difficult time growing up in that environment.

I think of this every time I see his smug, irritating mug.

Cinaferna · 20/10/2025 10:15

FuzzyWolf · 18/10/2025 19:55

I can’t stand him but I also dislike the way people judge somebody for something that happened almost 20 years ago. People in the public eye can’t escape their mistakes but I bet most of us have something somewhere in our backgrounds that wouldn’t look great when published in the media and our flaws highlighted to everyone.

It's less a mistake - more showing people who you really are - a revolting bully, misogynistic, ageist who gets kicks from publicly humiliating someone far more talented than he will ever be. I loathed him before Sachsgate. He has always made my flesh crawl.

AgathaMayhem · 20/10/2025 10:13

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/10/2025 21:39

I don't like him. I stopped watching his shows before Sachsgate. I find him clichéd, formulaic and cringe. But other people like his shiz and professionalism otherwise he'd have disappeared by now.🤷‍♀️

He is interesting in the Traitors.😁

What is interesting about him in Traitors??
I'm watching and don't see anything interesting about him.
I was disappointed to watch Celia Imrie praising him to other contestants - I'm pretty sure she described him as delectable.

CoffeeCantata · 20/10/2025 08:21

Just to add - I think pps are divided between possibly younger people who see this in isolation. I see it as being part of the whole sexual abuse scandal in which the BBC enabled a whole spectrum of sexual misconduct from Saville and Harris at one end, to Wallace and things like this tacky and bullying incident (and Ross’s behaviour in interviews with female celebrities) at the milder end.

Not cool at all and shouldn’t be minimised.

CoffeeCantata · 20/10/2025 07:47

Rhaenys · 20/10/2025 06:49

It was gross, although I didn’t think so at the time as I was quite young and didn’t see what all the fuss was about.

However, I seem to remember Andrew Sachs and his wife stopped speaking to their granddaughter over it which I thought was awful of them.

I see that as a family tragedy caused by Ross and that wanker, Brand though. On the face of it, that sounds harsh, but I guess there must have been rows, back and forths and huge upset involved so things might have been more complicated than them just going nc with her.

How this sad outcome, all caused by a cruel, bullying ‘prank’ is OK with some people is beyond me.

Rhaenys · 20/10/2025 06:49

It was gross, although I didn’t think so at the time as I was quite young and didn’t see what all the fuss was about.

However, I seem to remember Andrew Sachs and his wife stopped speaking to their granddaughter over it which I thought was awful of them.

Audiprettier · 20/10/2025 00:41

CoffeeCantata · 19/10/2025 17:35

I’m not sure of the state of Andrew Sachs’s health at that stage, but he developed Alzheimer’s Disease as he aged and became wheelchair-bound. I’d hate to think that, if he’d been unable to turn up on the programme, it was because of Ill-health, and that he was pilloried by two oiks because of it.

Stunned at the pps who can’t see what’s wrong with shouting’I fucked your granddaughter’ to this veteran and much-loved performer on a broadcast.

Yuk. I wouldn’t want to be those people.🫩🤮

Hard agree!
Sickening to read ops saying it's no big deal!

It bloody is!

I'm sure it would be a complete U turn if it was your daughter (or dad) involved, being made a laughing stock to all & sundry!
Being in the public eye does not mean automatic redemption, in fact it usually means the opposite (John Torode) so why is JR not booted off?
He was off air for a while, but unfortunately has been regurgitated for some bizarre reason.

He should be put out to pasture, & quick!

Richtea1234 · 19/10/2025 23:02

Can’t stand him. I’ve never seen traitors.

Oldwmn · 19/10/2025 22:51

Viewing figures tell the tale. If people watch stuff with him in it, they can't really complain. I haven't watched anything with JR in since his chatshow years ago & I thought he was dreadful & boring then. As for the popularity of reality shows - the mation needs to get a grip.

Firefly1987 · 19/10/2025 22:31

carchi · 19/10/2025 21:19

Agree we should definitely not move on and forget what he did. It was not a mistake it was a calculated verbal nasty and completely unnecessary attack on a young girl. The fact that he also involved that other imbecile brand goes to show that they planned it. Why would someone do something like that especially pubically.

I thought it was more offensive to her grandad than her-it wouldn't have been news to her that she slept with RB.

CoffeeCantata · 19/10/2025 22:29

mydogisthebest · 19/10/2025 21:46

Well you may be amazed that he is still going strong but, as I said, plenty of people like him.

Did you not realise he still has his chat show, has a radio show and is often on various programmes such as Bake Off An Extra Slice

No - I’m sorry, I didn’t.

I’m not the biggest telly fan and avoid anything to do with ‘celebs’ like the plague.

mydogisthebest · 19/10/2025 21:46

CoffeeCantata · 19/10/2025 20:28

There’s no accounting for taste!

I’m amazed to hear he’s still going, tbh. I’d have thought he’d have passed his sell-by some time ago.

I’m genuinely surprised that his sleazy style is still popular these days.

Well you may be amazed that he is still going strong but, as I said, plenty of people like him.

Did you not realise he still has his chat show, has a radio show and is often on various programmes such as Bake Off An Extra Slice

ItWasTheBabycham · 19/10/2025 21:42

Yes, I had completely forgotten why I didn’t like him. Thank you for reminding me, I was beginning to think I was just being a grump

carchi · 19/10/2025 21:19

Greedybilly · 18/10/2025 20:09

@OwlBeThere-- but that doesn't make his behaviour right though does it? Should we all move on about every other pervert that works on tv? Erm...no.

Agree we should definitely not move on and forget what he did. It was not a mistake it was a calculated verbal nasty and completely unnecessary attack on a young girl. The fact that he also involved that other imbecile brand goes to show that they planned it. Why would someone do something like that especially pubically.

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 19/10/2025 21:18

Can't stand Jonathan Ross either Yes, and l think he does know stuff about his friends in hight places.Thatis how he gets work.

Traitors is a good concept but l really do think it is a complete set up from start to finish Also shows what scum bags and how two faced many of these people are in real life.

Gone right off Alan Carr! Claire Balding has real ntegrity.

Cat Burns is by far the worse and could buy and sell you..A real wide head. Very slippy.

Although the prize money will go to Charity the contestants also get a fat fee for taking part. Egos boosts.

Also helps pay for their upmarket life styles and the there kids School/Uni fees. Never forget that

Americano75 · 19/10/2025 20:42

slashlover · 18/10/2025 21:40

It wasn't live radio either, it was prerecorded which meant that producers etc thought it was fine. Also, nobody cared until the Mail ran a story about it a WEEK later.

Exactly. No one knew anything about it until the Mail created a whole shitshow that went on for weeks, absolutely wrung every last drop out of it.

RB's 'Scandalous' tour was based on the scandal. As abhorrent as he's turned out to be it was really funny.

CoffeeCantata · 19/10/2025 20:28

mydogisthebest · 19/10/2025 19:05

Of course I can see what is wrong with shouting those words BUT it was 20 years ago. He didn't rape or murder someone so for how long exactly should he be punished?

We all get that you hate him and don't think he should ever have been allowed back on tv and radio but there are plenty of people who like him and watch his tv shows and listen to his radio shows.

There’s no accounting for taste!

I’m amazed to hear he’s still going, tbh. I’d have thought he’d have passed his sell-by some time ago.

I’m genuinely surprised that his sleazy style is still popular these days.

PrincessSophieFrederike · 19/10/2025 20:11

SuffraJET · 19/10/2025 19:05

She was on the show later actually. I clearly remember him being lecherous towards her about her 'grow up' . Not really watched or listened to him ever since. Its not cancelling or wacamole just people having an opinion on what they want to consume and why. Perfectly normal. Telly and general celeb culture is full of creeps. I tend not to want to watch the ones who have displayed behaviour that in my opinion is unsavoury. Just my opinion ...others can form theirs.

Agree. Poor Charlotte Church got creeped on a lot back then. One good thing about today is that that kind of stuff wouldn't fly in the media, or at least would be disciplined more.

The Sun was one of the offenders ofc, but not the only one.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20554942&ved=2ahUKEwiA8I6K-7CQAxVGXUEAHZ4qKwEQFnoECFIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2IL78w-pe0Y72hMQRL2Q8j

https://www.google.com/url?opi=89978449&rct=j&sa=t&source=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fmagazine-20554942&usg=AOvVaw2IL78w-pe0Y72hMQRL2Q8j&ved=2ahUKEwiA8I6K-7CQAxVGXUEAHZ4qKwEQFnoECFIQAQ

SuffraJET · 19/10/2025 19:05

Puppylucky · 18/10/2025 21:49

God this thread is like whackamole! Charlotte Church made her TV debut on Jonathan Ross's show at 12 with her aunt - again her big break. He was not remotely creepy and there is no suggestion that she has any problems with him - why would she?

She was on the show later actually. I clearly remember him being lecherous towards her about her 'grow up' . Not really watched or listened to him ever since. Its not cancelling or wacamole just people having an opinion on what they want to consume and why. Perfectly normal. Telly and general celeb culture is full of creeps. I tend not to want to watch the ones who have displayed behaviour that in my opinion is unsavoury. Just my opinion ...others can form theirs.

mydogisthebest · 19/10/2025 19:05

CoffeeCantata · 19/10/2025 17:35

I’m not sure of the state of Andrew Sachs’s health at that stage, but he developed Alzheimer’s Disease as he aged and became wheelchair-bound. I’d hate to think that, if he’d been unable to turn up on the programme, it was because of Ill-health, and that he was pilloried by two oiks because of it.

Stunned at the pps who can’t see what’s wrong with shouting’I fucked your granddaughter’ to this veteran and much-loved performer on a broadcast.

Yuk. I wouldn’t want to be those people.🫩🤮

Of course I can see what is wrong with shouting those words BUT it was 20 years ago. He didn't rape or murder someone so for how long exactly should he be punished?

We all get that you hate him and don't think he should ever have been allowed back on tv and radio but there are plenty of people who like him and watch his tv shows and listen to his radio shows.

RobertJohnsonsShoes · 19/10/2025 18:12

He’s about as funny as gut rot

CoffeeCantata · 19/10/2025 18:05

This has made me join up the dots, OP. Thanks for reminding us of this incident.

i can’t bear oiks like JR, but I think the real villain in this is the BBC. They admitted during the Greg Wallace scandal that they now acknowledge it’s a mistake to let an ‘untouchable’ culture develop amongst the stars and teams who work on particular programmes. You can imagine how it happens. The ‘talent’ is indulged and treated like royalty, creating a feeling that they’re beyond criticism and that normal rules of decent human conduct don’t apply to them. This is what happened with Saville, Harris , Wallace and, I’m sure, many other stars with planet-sized egos.

I really hope the BBC have learned by now to rein these horrors in.

wisestbee23 · 19/10/2025 18:00

Whappy · 18/10/2025 20:04

It was awful and I have not forgotten. I am also surprised that there is little comment in the da t he started dating his wife when she was 16 and he was nearly 30. I seem to recall he made some bizarre comment about him being a bit of a dad to her. Makes me shudder.

Jonathan was born in 1960 and his wife 1970. They married in 1988 and are still together. Even so, I would have felt uncomfortable if my 16yo DD had started dating a man 10yrs older at that age.

Pomegranatecarnage · 19/10/2025 17:41

No, I won’t forget that. He’s horrible.