Has everyone forgotten Jonathan Ross and Sachsgate?

I haven't forgotten it but I disliked him before that and still do.

Ah yes, the heartening moral self righteousness of someone who slept with underage children.

What ? A prank call?! Come on

Also the sainted John Peel. He admitted to several encounters with underage fans in the 70s, but he died before the climate of sexual permissiveness changed.

The lesson from this is a depressing one: some powerful men will do whatever they want if allowed, and also the behaviour of famous people is very much influenced by the moral climate fostered by broadcasters such as as the BBC. While the BBC was tolerant of all kinds of misogyny, they took advantage of. And the BBC very much enabled such as Saville and Harris.

Oh, come off it. Most of us don’t have sonething quite this disgusting in our twenty-years-ago stories.

I’m no particular fan of Ross’s but I’m not sure it’s completely reasonable to compare him to someone convicted of assault and false imprisonment.

I also think you have an odd view about the real world if you think that someone would be widely shunned for a horrible “joke” they made nearly 20 years ago.

@Christwosheds - was not aware of that.

Honestly this whole thread (assuming it's genuine and not a bunch of bots) is everything that's wrong with the world at the moment. The guy's a fairly middle ranking celebrity - on TV once a week in the UK only plus a weekly radio show. He acted like an overgrown schoolboy shouting down the telephone on a prank call 15(?) years ago - apologised, resigned from all his broadcasting responsibilities with the BBC and has kept his head down ever since. He is a family man with 3 kids and a wife he clearly adores and supports multiple charities. And still vicious posters on here want to attack and smear him with the usual default "perv" / paedo allegations. And before anyone accuses me of anything - I quite like him and find him watchable but it's more about being totally sick of seeing human beings being ripped apart on line.

I agree. I mentioned Sachsgate to my daughter when she asked me if I liked Jonathan Ross on Celebrity Traitors. Obviously, we didn't know about all the allegations of sexual misconduct against Russell Brand at that point, but it was disgusting behaviour and Jonathan Ross was egging him on like a naughty school boy hanging out with the cool kids.

Never liked Jonathan Ross. He was a good enough interviewer when interviewing men but with women, it might start ok tl then in about 2 minutes he would just be letching all over them and not really listening to them or asking good questions to elicit interesting answers, just teeing up the next sleazy double entendre, if he could be bothered to even do that.

The past was certainly a different country!

I remember JR embarrassing several female guests with his crude sexual remarks and suggestions - Michelle Pfeifer was one. I felt ashamed of British TV on her behalf. She was clearly shocked.

Also, his brother Paul was on a reality show of some kind with the glamour model Abi someone..can’t remember her surname but she was very famous 15 years ago - and he just kept bullying her about her ‘beaky’ nose until she was extremely uncomfortable. His point was that she wasn’t the vision of perfection he thought she should have been. He was very, very far from an oil painting himself.🙄

I hope those times are gone.

@OnlyOnAFriday - never heard of the stories, I know he was a father and a husband and his declining the invitation showed respect for women, to me at least

Yes. 14 year olds I think ?

@FuzzyWolf - some people deal with others behaviour for fal longer than twenty years while the person responsible walks away and flourishes.
Others, when they make a mistake actually apologise to the people they hurt, whether they can affect their career or status or not.

"David Bowie never appeared on Ross’ show again, despite Ross persistently asking him to. Now there was a Star, May he Rest in Peace."

Ummm...

Bowie? There’s some not nice stories about him and underage groupies isn’t there?

She was 16 when they met though. He may have been 26 rather than 30 but at her age that’s a big age gap. But guess it must have been love as they’re still together aren’t they?

Not a fan of either.
At the time, Stephen Fry had JR on his shoe to, in Fry’s words, help him off the‘naughty step.’ Yep, their behaviour was trivialised to that extent.
David Bowie never appeared on Ross’ show again, despite Ross persistently asking him to. Now there was a Star, May he Rest in Peace.

I was talking to a friend about this very topic today. She can’t stand him. I don’t mind him on Traitors, he comes over like a nice enough guy but I did say I was very shocked and disappointed by what he did over Sach’s granddaughter. so is he an ok guy who made a stupid error of judgement or is he a really nasty bit of work who hides it well most of the time?

I think he probably thought it was banter and him and Brand (who is a scumbag on another level) egged each other on. I don’t think it was banter, I think it was nasty. But I get that doesn’t necessarily make him nasty. I don’t think he’s a predator but I was more disappointed with him because he had daughters. And also that he’s never properly apologised.

They are less than 10 years apart in age, it’s not possible he was ‘almost 30’ when she was 16. It’s a big age gap, so there’s no need to exaggerate it for effect,

He is a vile little man and should have been cancelled . Russel Brand is no better. Both are disgusting

Well, as with Epstein's buddies, who knows?

Well so should a lot of us - it's not a crime!