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To think the TV License should be scrapped

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Hedgehogbrown · 18/10/2025 19:09

Hear me out. I love the BBC, grew up on it, and want it preserved forever. The Television License is such an outdated and inefficient way to pay for the BBC though. Most young people don't have a TV, they have computers and they don't see why they should get a TV License, regardless of the law. They don't have a TV License. Most Millennials I know don't pay their TV License. When you are poor it is another stressful expense.

How much does it cost them to try to enforce? It seems so old fashioned and wasteful. In Australia they have a state run channel but it is paid for through general taxation. If the government grew some balls and taxed all the Tech Bros who are trying to destroy the world, they can ring fence some of that taxation for the BBC. The BBC is actually good at making money, it exports it's stuff around the world. Their profits can go to the Treasury. No more paying for people to go round in vans trying to catch people out for not having a license like it's the 1970s.

I think it would be such a vote winner for people to not have to pay this.

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OonaStubbs · 20/10/2025 18:16

Some people are just brainwashed and can't imagine life without the BBC. I remember knowing kids when I was young whose parents wouldn't let them watch ITV because it was "downmarket".

SushiForMe · 19/10/2025 13:41

Hedgehogbrown · 19/10/2025 09:41

No it shouldn't.

Why should everybody pay for it and not just the ones using it?

Rewis · 19/10/2025 12:52

Some countries have given up on tb licence and everyone has to pay for media tax. Write you own a tv/radio or not. Not sure of titbis good or bad, but at leas nobody has to invoice and check on tv licences.

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 12:49

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:18

If people could opt in monthly for a BBC licence rather than having to pay for a full year then it would be better.
I see the licence as a subscription - just one that is a 12 month contract.
Perhaps that could change.

That would be much better, it takes a very good show for me to subscribe say to Apple TV but I will for a couple of months if there’s a good one. I’d do the same if the BBC had something good.

The one I can think of that might have prompted me to opt in was Happy Valley. I haven’t watched the BBC for a while though.

CalzoneOnLegs · 19/10/2025 12:43

@dottiedodah the cheapest Netflix is £5.99 pm

x2boys · 19/10/2025 12:43

dottiedodah · 19/10/2025 12:37

I think the BBC is unequalled anywhere in the world really.In Canada my SIL/BIL pays a small fee to watch it ,and very few of the shows over there match up.If you want an ad free service. there has to be a charge .At £10.00 for a basic Netflix plan, this is similar to BBC.We like this. but still seem to watch the Beeb a lot!

That's your opinion though many ,many people don't think the BBC is great and don't want your watch their content.

dottiedodah · 19/10/2025 12:37

I think the BBC is unequalled anywhere in the world really.In Canada my SIL/BIL pays a small fee to watch it ,and very few of the shows over there match up.If you want an ad free service. there has to be a charge .At £10.00 for a basic Netflix plan, this is similar to BBC.We like this. but still seem to watch the Beeb a lot!

nosleepforme · 19/10/2025 12:28

Complete waste of money! And when grandma moved in with us, and we’ve no tv, they still insisted she pay. Just ignored.
Dh goes out to watch his games. Otherwise, what on earth is it needed for?! Their journalism is complete rubbish

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:18

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 12:13

Great you do that. We don’t all have to enjoy the BBC. We watch a series at a time and they’re streamed, which we pay for generally or opt in.

If people could opt in monthly for a BBC licence rather than having to pay for a full year then it would be better.
I see the licence as a subscription - just one that is a 12 month contract.
Perhaps that could change.

yellowspanner · 19/10/2025 12:17

And nobody 'needs' the BBC.

yellowspanner · 19/10/2025 12:14

My adult children have televisions as do some, but not all of my friend. Do I know exactly what is on the BBC as I am constantly hearing them complain about dumbing down the programmes

HelenaWaiting · 19/10/2025 12:13

I'll never forget the TV Licence Inspector who bullied my 14 year old autistic son to tears. He was the only one home at the time - InSET day at his school, siblings at work and I had just popped to the shops. The guy shouldn't have been talking to him at all. I made a complaint and got fobbed off until I gave up. We had a licence, btw, but had just moved house. I haven't paid for one since. I'm not subsidising an organisation that employs people who do this and make excuses for them. We lost access to iplayer but so what?

SquareElephant · 19/10/2025 12:13

Hedgehogbrown · 19/10/2025 09:49

Well I suppose that's answered my question. If any politician tries to scrap it and pay for it through general taxation, a loads of BBC haters like you lot will be all 'make it a subscription' blah blah. There are lots of things you get taxed for but don't use. How often do you use an ambulance or fire brigade? Australia and Canada have state channels that are paid for through taxation. They aren't saying ' of Maureen from Mumsnet thinks it's all shite, she shouldn't have to pay.

Lots of people enjoy and need the BBC. Also, you do need a license for BBC iPlayer by the way, those of you who think you don't need one. How many of you spend hours scrolling through Facebook. They pay fuck all tax. That's where I was suggesting the money comes from.

Didn't want this to become a BBC bashing thread.

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That is a very BBC attitude. We silly plebs don’t know what is good for us.

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 12:13

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:11

Yep.
There's also a lot of BBC crap I simply don't enjoy or hate with a passion.
I just don't watch those.
Same with my Netflix and Disney+ subscriptions.

Great you do that. We don’t all have to enjoy the BBC. We watch a series at a time and they’re streamed, which we pay for generally or opt in.

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:12

@EasternStandard what does "sell stuff in" mean?

x2boys · 19/10/2025 12:11

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:06

I only mentioned 3 programmes 😂😂
There's plenty more.

That you enjoy ,that's great I'm glad you think the licence fee is worthwhile for you
Why do you think we should all think the same ?

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:11

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 12:09

Yep and you can enjoy them. You don’t need to sell stuff in.

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Yep.
There's also a lot of BBC crap I simply don't enjoy or hate with a passion.
I just don't watch those.
Same with my Netflix and Disney+ subscriptions.

autienotnaughty · 19/10/2025 12:11

Needmorelego · 18/10/2025 19:16

It kind of is really.
It's a subscription for BBC channels plus iPlayer and for watching "live" ITV/Channel 4/Channel 5/Sky etc.
If you don't watch any BBC and only watch ITV etc via catch up channels online then you don't need a license.

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It should have a login like Netflix etc rather than this license which requires vans driving past your house or people knocking on your door to check your not using g it. BBC is a good service provider but it needs to update its subscription method

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 12:09

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:06

I only mentioned 3 programmes 😂😂
There's plenty more.

Yep and you can enjoy them. You don’t need to sell stuff in.

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:06

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 11:59

I agree at @x2boysthose shows don’t appeal.

I only mentioned 3 programmes 😂😂
There's plenty more.

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 12:05

x2boys · 19/10/2025 12:03

I can honestly say nothing much interests me on the BBC I stayed with my Dad for a few weeks recently who has a licence and doesn't subscribe to Netflix etc and i.didnt find anything interesting
I'm glad you enjoy the BBC but it wouldn't do for us all to like the same things.

Well yes.
So if you don't want the BBC channels or want to watch any "live" programmes then don't get a licence.
Simple.

OonaStubbs · 19/10/2025 12:04

I don't see what makes it different to any other content provider such as Netflix, Disney or Crunchyroll. It should be a subscription service for those who want to watch it, and those who do not should not be harassed.

x2boys · 19/10/2025 12:03

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 11:57

I never said they couldn't 😂
However I do think the "I hate the BBC but I haven't actually watched any BBC programmes for 20 years" people's opinion isn't really that valid.

I can honestly say nothing much interests me on the BBC I stayed with my Dad for a few weeks recently who has a licence and doesn't subscribe to Netflix etc and i.didnt find anything interesting
I'm glad you enjoy the BBC but it wouldn't do for us all to like the same things.

EasternStandard · 19/10/2025 11:59

x2boys · 19/10/2025 11:55

Again that's just your opinion though you clearly think it's worth the licence fee that's fine
People are allowed to disagree.

I agree at @x2boysthose shows don’t appeal.

Needmorelego · 19/10/2025 11:57

x2boys · 19/10/2025 11:55

Again that's just your opinion though you clearly think it's worth the licence fee that's fine
People are allowed to disagree.

I never said they couldn't 😂
However I do think the "I hate the BBC but I haven't actually watched any BBC programmes for 20 years" people's opinion isn't really that valid.