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Angry at house seller?

718 replies

perfectpotato · 18/10/2025 17:17

Had our offer accepted, in the middle of the legal process and we’ve had got the fixtures and fittings form from the vendors.

They are taking with them all the column radiators (will be replacing with basic ones), all light fixtures - they had these beautiful sconce marble light fixtures that they will be taking and they are have a fixed mirror in the bathroom, has Bluetooth and different lighting and they are taking that too.

My partner doesn’t seem bothered but I’m really upset, Aibu?

OP posts:
Dutchhouse14 · 19/10/2025 21:29

I don't think you are being unreasonable, radiators are definitely normally remain!
Light fittings and wired in mirrors are usually left but equally can be taken.
I would be particularly furious about the radiators.
Did you pay asking price or near asking price? Often houses are pitched at selling a lifestyle and if they have high quality fittings then the price often reflects that.
I do understand why the owners want to take these high quality expensive items but I am gobsmacked about the radiators!

Jello64 · 19/10/2025 21:29

Radiators and light fittings always used to remain. It’s not like washing machines or dishwashers where you would negotiate a price. I’ve never bought a property where rads and light fittings were removed. Pretty mean I would say.

Donsyb · 19/10/2025 21:21

Light fittings and mirror - normal
to take
radiators - not normal

Playdoughy · 19/10/2025 21:20

Taking sconces - fine. But radiators, I would be fuming too tbh...
These are often very much tailored to space, unlikely they will be able to use all of it in the new place, so feels more like they are making effort to leave you with just the basics....or nudging you to up the offer so they leave those in...
Shitty move imo - I would pull out or reduce the offer - just say that the column radiators were part of the appeal and sorry..

FallingIntoAutumn · 19/10/2025 21:18

If you still want the property I’d either offer money for their radiators, or offer to supply your own at their cost to fit.
bit of a dick move on their part but it is what it is

Dymaxion · 19/10/2025 21:11

You do understand that they are replacing the radiators and light fittings! Why cause such major disruption to your chain by pulling out over trivial things!

If so trivial why would the seller cause such major disruption to the chain by suggesting it ? It might be OP doesn't need to move, the Budget is coming up and the very slow selling period pre and post Christmas, I wouldn't be as confident as the seller clearly is about the chances of OP taking the hit on this.

OooPourUsACupLove · 19/10/2025 21:09

FlyMeSomewhere · 19/10/2025 21:01

Why go the extreme of pulling out and wasting money already spent on the process so far and not to mention risking a house sale that may be vital to the OP buying their property! They are replacing the fixtures and fittings, not leaving them without any. It's not fair on everyone else in the chain to pull out for trivial reasons.

It's not trivial. OP set her offer based on a house with nice rads. If that's not what she is now getting she's daft to pay the same amount. And she has absolutely no obligation to the rest of the chain to take a bad deal for their convenience.

Hey - perhaps the others in the chain could step in to buy the rads from the vendor for her so she can keep the current price? You know, to keep the chain going? I mean, that's just as reasonable as expecting her to suck up extra costs for them surely?

SummerEve · 19/10/2025 21:04

MrsJeanLuc · 19/10/2025 21:00

It's all part of a negotiation isn't it? You don't have to blindly accept what the other party puts on the form?

Exactly, so OP needs to temper her anger and get strategic.

FlyMeSomewhere · 19/10/2025 21:03

CRCGran · 19/10/2025 21:00

Pull out.... seems utterly ridiculous to me to take radiators and light fittings .... there are other houses.

You do understand that they are replacing the radiators and light fittings! Why cause such major disruption to your chain by pulling out over trivial things!

FlyMeSomewhere · 19/10/2025 21:01

Helpwithdivorce · 18/10/2025 17:19

Offer extra for them to leave them. Or pull out

Why go the extreme of pulling out and wasting money already spent on the process so far and not to mention risking a house sale that may be vital to the OP buying their property! They are replacing the fixtures and fittings, not leaving them without any. It's not fair on everyone else in the chain to pull out for trivial reasons.

CRCGran · 19/10/2025 21:00

Pull out.... seems utterly ridiculous to me to take radiators and light fittings .... there are other houses.

MrsJeanLuc · 19/10/2025 21:00

SummerEve · 19/10/2025 20:29

If that were the case nobody would be asked to complete the F&F form.

It's all part of a negotiation isn't it? You don't have to blindly accept what the other party puts on the form?

Lavenderblue11 · 19/10/2025 20:59

I think they're really cheeky. You bought the house based on how you liked the interior. The vendors are really naughty taking the radiators with them, I bet it wasn't disclosed at the time you were viewing the property that they'd be stripped out.
Reminds me of when I bought my cottage years ago, the guy selling it was such a tight arse, he took everything.
He would have taken wallpaper off the walls if he could have, the cf.

Rpop · 19/10/2025 20:58

I guess it is reasonable of them but a bit unusual. I would offer them some cash to leave them. Might be a better prospect for them than making good of any removal they undertake (I’m fairly sure they have to make good any marks etc).

Allergictoironing · 19/10/2025 20:55

Surely, it’s going to cost them to replace the existing radiators and light fittings with different ones, or are they planning to leave you completely without any?

Up thread it was explained that the seller intends to remove the expensive radiators and replace them with bog standard (i.e. cheapo) ones.

As a few have said, standard cheap radiators are exceptionally unlikely to fit exactly the same as the existing ones so there's very likely to be a need for new holes in the floor to have the pipes coming up in the right place, almost definitely some redecoration, maybe work done to the flooring to cover the old holes, full boiler system balancing and check. It would also impact the energy survey if already done so that would have to be repeated. At a rough guess at least quite a few hundred and probably well into 4 figures before you factor in the cost of the new radiators themselves, plus the cost of having the old ones fitted in the seller's next property.

And no guarantees the work has been carried out by reputable workers either.

Sennelier1 · 19/10/2025 20:55

Where we live (Belgium) you legally can't take anything that's fixed/bolted as it's juridically considered to be part of the house. I know it's different in the UK.

Allisnotlost1 · 19/10/2025 20:53

eatingandeating24 · 19/10/2025 17:59

Never known anything as "low" as this!! My seller took away the installed water softener!!

Also very normal. When they fit the softener they explain how easy it is to detach and move with you as one of the selling points. It’s not something that would be reflected in the cost of the property because it’s not a standard item.

Gagaandgag · 19/10/2025 20:52

I think plenty of people dig up plants and trees. Our previous owner did! We didn’t bat an eyelid. I don’t know how I feel about this radiator situation! We sold our previous house and we had installed the column radiators - we didn’t take them with us. Ours were expensive cast iron ones too. But I can also see vendors side too. She said they were gifted.

cheziebabe · 19/10/2025 20:51

ask your solicitor. if it wasnt made clear these items which are fixed to the property were not included then they have to leave them i think. thats why theyre called fixtures. speak to your solicitor. check property on the day, before the contracts are exchanged.

OooPourUsACupLove · 19/10/2025 20:51

SummerEve · 19/10/2025 20:29

If that were the case nobody would be asked to complete the F&F form.

The whole point of the F&F form being provided before exchange is to clarify what is being left and taken so that buyer can if necessary revise their offer based on this information.

If it wasn't part of the negotiation they could just list it at the end of the contract so the buyer knows what to check for when they move in.

Lotsnlotsoflove · 19/10/2025 20:50

I would not expect radiators to be taken - that’s a massive expense and also a basic fixture of the house. It’s like taking the original fireplaces! Obviously radiators like that give a certain vibe to a property that is massive selling point. Not to mention the cost of resourcing and reinstalling like for like.

I would think that light fixtures are somewhere in between…I would definitely be taking my pendant and chandelier fixtures as they were expensive designer items and I consider them furniture/furnishings that I have selected to match my decoration, rather than fixtures.

Every time I have bought or sold a house I have left/been left the bathroom mirror for one reason or another - however I would not be miffed if the mirror was taken as I usually take all the other mirrors in my home when I move.

so YABU for the radiators. Other stuff meh, won’t be that expensive or faffy to replace. I’d tell my solicitor I am not happy with the radiators and not worry about the rest. If it bothers you that much ask for a reduction in price to cover the cost of replacing radiators like for like.

OneKhakiFish · 19/10/2025 20:48

I would just call their estate agents and tell them im no longer interested in the property and wouldnt even give them a reason, their loss. Its very underhanded.

Greenshed · 19/10/2025 20:41

Unless things have changed since we bought our house (some time ago, admittedly), I would have thought that anything fixed and fitted comes under fixtures and fittings and should remain? I can understand your annoyance.
Surely, it’s going to cost them to replace the existing radiators and light fittings with different ones, or are they planning to leave you completely without any? That can’t be right, surely, but if that’s the case, then, if you can, pull out and leave them high and dry - it would serve them right.

WoodywoodpeckerTomandJerryRoadrunner · 19/10/2025 20:41

WoW, I love a claw foot tub. But holy shit!
I would never think of destroying an essential part of a house. Can you imagine all fixure taken away. What's next? Digging up the patio, digging up trees, removing railing? Rediculous

babyproblems · 19/10/2025 20:39

I’d be annoyed about the radiators. I think that’s cheeky and that will be worth quite a lot of money actually. I’d say consider pulling out or at least say you’re considering it due to the radiators… the rest I think is fine. If I bought a property with period features, I’d expect to be buying the period features! x