Angry at house seller?

It should’ve been mentioned at the beginning to be fair.

Taking radiators is not normal & now is the time to adjust your offer to reflect that.
Light fittings can be taken but they have to leave a working standard white fitting.

If the garden is nice watch that too, they sounds like the types who would take a lot of the plants.

Mirrors have Bluetooth now? What fresh hell is this?

They do own these things though so of course they can take them.

They own the house and everything in it. Can they take the bath and the toilet and the kitchen sink?

It is not normal to take things that are actually fixed to the floor, walls or ceiling.

Regardless of whether they like them or not, taking them with them is ridiculous and very much not the done thing in the U.K.

reinstating the rads might be a not insignificant proportion of the purchase price and warrant a renegotiation.

I think your reaction depends on if you still want the house even without these fixtures.

I would be very off put by the radiator removals and replacements as they are likely to leave damaged walls and carpets and (if you are not overly in love with the house) tempted to say they stay untouched or you will pull out. But that does depend on you believing you can find another house that you like as much.

The light fitting and bathroom mirror you could try to look up their cost and make an offer for them to stay in situ but I don't really feel you should make an offer for the radiators as they are a basic part of the house.

It would be unusual for all of those things to fit their new property. If they are nice things, they may just want to get some money back for them by selling them on.

Could you offer to buy them from them? If you really like them. You get things you like, that fit, they recoup some of their money and don't have the hassle of having to take them out and replace them.

You can only ask, they are free to say no if they really want to take them with them.

Taking the radiators is a bit weird imo but lights are normal.

Taking the radiators is ridiculous. I don’t blame you being annoyed. I would absolutely challenge them on that as you agreed to buy the house with the radiators you saw when viewing, not whatever crap ones they’re likely to replace them with

YANBU @perfectpotato Who the fuck changes the RADIATORS!?

Like, what would people think if they changed all the windows to old basic windows made in 2007? Or had a fancy garage door, and changed it for a basic one, just before moving out of their house they had sold to a private buyer???

No-one would expect that. How on earth can anyone think it's OK/normal to take the bloody column radiators, and put basic ones in...? Column ones cost 3 times more than the normal 'panel' ones, and they (the column ones) would have been there/in place when the OP put the offer in on the house. I would be incredibly fucked off by this.

Consult your solicitor @perfectpotato

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I would be concerned they wouldn't actually replace the radiators or something. It is a big job, the system has to be drained etc. When will they do it?

They sound a bit nuts, really. I'd consider pulling out.

Never assume anything is included in a house sale. You could have asked whilst viewing. That said, radiators do seem a strange thing to take.

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And if you do make an offer to buy the lights and the mirror, remember that they are now second hand so don't be seduced into over paying unless that works for you.

Taking the radiators is weird but, I suppose, if they had them before the viewings, would that have changed your offer? Maybe think of it like that.

I hate vendor pettiness. One of mine took the light bulbs.

From a legal perspective if the photos of the house show the radiators and/ or they are mentioned then they are fixtures and they should be included with the house purchase. If they're not then I think you have a good argument that the estate agents details were misleading.

As a general rule if you turn the house upside down, anything that falls out is not included in the sale.

I would be arguing with the vendors tbh. It depends how much you love that particular house and whether the radiators and bathroom fittings were an intrinsic part of what made the house desirable from your perspective.

If they were part of the reason why you bought the house and you offered the price you did for them, then either lower your offer to take into account replacing them or pull out of the sale.

I can understand slightly why they are taking the radiators as we have them and and they are so much better than standard ones. I dont intend on taking mine though, I do think its weird?? Id be concerned the new radiators wont leak etc, you need to go back to the solicitor and see if theres a clause or comeback if you do have issues with them.

The mirror, odd too.....especially if its relatively new bathroom anyway but if it's expensive I can see why.

This is good advice.

I don't understand people here sometimes. No, it's not normal to take radiators and light fittings. Maybe a mirror, but that's stingy. Is this going to mean some redecoration and tiles with holes in? I'd be pissed off too.

If the radiators and lighting appeared in the estate agent’s listing of the house, then my understanding is they have to stay (as they were part of what is offered for sale).

It is so unusual to take radiators that you could possibly argue that, if they were in the photos and weren’t specifically excluded in the particulars, you expected them to stay.

Mirror - fair game.

Well you obviously like them enough that you’re angry they won’t be included, so it’s not a great leap to assume they like them enough to keep them.

Theres a legal difference between fixtures (things like radiators, kitchen cabinets etc) and fittings (fridge freezer, curtains etc).

Speak to your solicitor

These responses are so weird. Definitely not normal to take radiators and your offer was made based on them being included I assume. I would be reducing my offer by the amount it would cost to replace with like for like plus fitting. Light fittings I think are fair game though I can see why it’s disappointing - if you love them you can ask where they were from maybe.

No this doesn’t sit right.

Never heard of people taking radiators to be fair