Angry at house seller?

This with bells on!!

Personally, id pull out of it.

But if you are going continue then this is solid advice. Also, id be pushing for your solicitors to hold on to some of the money for at least 6 months to ensure that any plumbing problems with the radiators can be paid for and not by you.

Be awkward back.

The mirror I wouldnt be fussed.

Having google the lights, they're not my cup of tea but are pricey so again, ensure the lights are suitably replaced with no visible damage to the walls and a electric safety certificate is supplied.

No way would I buy this house without seeing the new radiators in situ.

In fact I wouldn't proceed if they took them.

Eh? When my house was on the market my bed was in the pictures but wasn't included lol

Had one who took all the carpets - except stair carpet. Fitted wardrobe doors,
All the light bulbs. This was in the days before you had to do a list. They smashed a window in the front door and left a load of dog crap in the garden so that was nice !

Yeah, the radiators are fixtures and the replacements could be of a lesser design feature or decor could be damaged when they swop them out and on this basis, I would suggest you get your solicitor to either ask for a reduction in price or that they are still part of the deal.

Light fittings and bluetooth bathroom mirror are a bit of a push as its not unreasonable to take them.

Enjoy your new home.

Seek legal advice.

My non-legal opinion is that it is deception of sorts. Perhaps if the government does get round to changing the law in England and Wales for house sale and purchase, it can state what is presumed to be included unless explicitly stated otherwise in all advertising.

Unless stated in the particulars then nothing wrong with taking the light fittings and mirror

radiators are a bit odd though so I would push back on those

when I look around a house I expect everything ‘decor’ to go but expect integral items (bathroom fittings, radiators, boiler, white goods etc) to stay unless mentioned

I once saw a house where the owner had hand built a beautiful wooden kitchen and they were taking everything. They declared it up front so fine.

YANBU, you can work out how much they're worth and consider an adjusted offer - radiators would usually be left. Expensive light fittings would be expected to go I think.

I don’t think they can take radiators

stingy fuckers. i had the same with my house, they made me pay for the victorian fireplace surrounds. really pissed me off.

Taking the radiators is really weird, but I don't see a problem with the lights and mirror. The Bluetooth bathroom mirrors aren't all that expensive, so you could replace it easily.

I’d be concerned about holes in wall / messy walls. Are they planing to fit new radiators (presumably standard shape) and repipe/plaster/repaint and the same for the space where the mirror is. I’d speak to your solicitor it needs clarification

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Some seem to come on AIBU just to be contrary, but it definitely isn't normal or expected for vendors to take things like radiators, and frankly if you go ahead I'd wonder what else you'll find missing

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Taking the radiators is absolutely ridiculous, imo 🙄

I with you OP.

Even if they replaced the radiators, there might be a mark on the wall where the original ones were, sunlight over time darkens some paper and paintwork.

The wall light fittings, I would also expect to stay as any replacement might not exactly fit. Mirror, I could live with and replace.

I would seriously consider pulling out as the sellers have strange ideas about fixtures and fittings.

Anything that doesn't fall out if you were to turn the whole house upside down should be left.

I've honestly never heard of anyone taking radiators with them when they move house. That's ridiculous and I would be pissed off too.

Very unusual to take radiators.

Light fittings I can kind of understand but I still think it is stingy.

Did you knock them down significantly on price? Maybe that is why?

I always went by the rule of if something is fixed permanently to the walls/ plumbed in then it would be staying. So things like fitted furniture, light fittings, kitchen cupboards, radiators etc should stay.

The radiatiors are weird. But they are replacing.
the lights and Bluetooth mirror… I mean, why do you think they should leave those? That’s weird

Nah, not normal to take radiators, and the walls will need redecoration to cover the mess cos the replacements will be different shapes.

Dealbreaker for me. I don't mess about with sellers like this. Once they start this sort of palaver, they always end up being complete CFs who keep moving the goal posts in one way or another. They rely on people being held to ransom by sunk costs, but it's usually cheaper to pull out early doors and find a different place, because the CFery never ends once it's begun.

They should have changed the rads first really

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Every light fitting replaced is likely to leave marks / missing paint etc and as for replacing radiators! The house could look completely different.

I'd certainly reduce my offer but would consider pulling out in the face of such fuckery

So dd2 had her seller try this bullshit 2 years ago.
They basically were waiting for her to start offering money for them.
i told her no!
instead she insisted and instructed that all damage and holes be fully repaired and left in decorated state that matched property when she viewed it.
slso new gas safety certificate and guarantees for new radiators and electrical work to replace what they were removing.
they never took any of it!

Agreed, we have one in our kitchen and it's utter shite.

We have column rads, and they aren't very good! You've probably missed a bullet there!

Taking the mirror and light fittings is perfectly normal. The radiator thing is slightly odd but they're not technically doing anything 'wrong.' I'm assuming you didn't buy the house solely for the radiators.