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Angry at house seller?

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perfectpotato · 18/10/2025 17:17

Had our offer accepted, in the middle of the legal process and we’ve had got the fixtures and fittings form from the vendors.

They are taking with them all the column radiators (will be replacing with basic ones), all light fixtures - they had these beautiful sconce marble light fixtures that they will be taking and they are have a fixed mirror in the bathroom, has Bluetooth and different lighting and they are taking that too.

My partner doesn’t seem bothered but I’m really upset, Aibu?

OP posts:
DBD1975 · 18/10/2025 19:39

Cannot believe people think OP is unreasonable.
I have never had someone take radiators from a house, totally unacceptable.
Fitted mirror in bathroom way too much faff too remove.
Light fittings maybe but don't think I would.
The thing is those things fit in that house, if removed they will leave holes/ issues with decor which would be hassle to repair/make good.
I hate the holes left by picture hangings, whether leaving them or moving in to a property with them.
You are not being unreasonable, I would not be happy about the radiators, massive red flag for me, column radiators are a strong selling point and replacing them with normal radiators is a big job.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 18/10/2025 19:37

It would never cross my mind to remove any of those things - I think your sellers are CFs. I would ask for a make good payment to cover replacing them like for like and the work of fitting them.

Wexone · 18/10/2025 19:37

Sweet lord. when I sold my house all light fittings radiators curtains and poles etc where left. they were classed as part of the house. we also left our barstools (asked the buyers if they wanted them) as they were designed for that kitchen wouldn't have suited anywhere else. I would be very p off if i was you

Braygirlnow · 18/10/2025 19:36

perfectpotato · 18/10/2025 17:25

Because they are fixtures - who takes radiators with them?

So long as there are radiators and light fittings then they've done nothing wrong.

Edinvillian · 18/10/2025 19:35

I’m an estate agent and have been for 20 years, I’ve never heard of radiators being removed. Light fittings, yes, but then I’d mention that they would be removed and replaced with other fittings, in the sales
particulars. Same with the bathroom mirror.

Aluna · 18/10/2025 19:35

Deyjxh · 18/10/2025 19:33

It is called negotiation. i.e I am happy to buy radiators for 50% of new cost.
Saves them the hassle of removal, and you the hassle of putting back.
Did you offer below the asking price?!

Fuck that. Im happy to buy your house at agreed price with radiators. Without them I will drop the offer to x.

Deyjxh · 18/10/2025 19:33

It is called negotiation. i.e I am happy to buy radiators for 50% of new cost.
Saves them the hassle of removal, and you the hassle of putting back.
Did you offer below the asking price?!

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 18/10/2025 19:29

I took a radiator (cost £850 as part of the design of the kitchen) which I replaced with a normal one. Also a bathroom sink cabinet ( Fired Earth, gorgeous, saved up for 6 months for it) replaced with a pretty good copy. However, at viewings these two things were pointed out as not being part of the sale.

Pilfer · 18/10/2025 19:26

Our sellers were very much like this. They took a fitted in microwave from the kitchen, which was a custom size and wasn’t easily replaceable, so we ended up with a gap in the expensive fitted kitchen while we figured that out. They did multiple things like that, though. Dickheads. Pretty sure it was retaliation for something we didn’t want to buy from them.

OnGoldenPond · 18/10/2025 19:24

TheTortiePuffinNeedsHerBreakfast · 18/10/2025 17:25

I'd say it's irritating rather than anger inducing. The light fittings would annoy me because that's the sort of thing you need as soon as you move in, but presumably you have time to buy some and bring them with you, or at least get a few lamps as back up. They do own these things though so of course they can take them.

They would have to replace the light fittings with at least basic fittings that allowed a bulb to be fitted, they can’t just leave live bare wires hanging! They would be in breach of contract if they did that. This is why I have insisted on the estate agent letting me inspect the new place to check the vendors haven’t pulled a stunt like that before allowing my solicitor to release funds.

Uptightmumma · 18/10/2025 19:22

It’s actually quite common for expensive fittings to be removed and replaced with standard. The mirror is counted as furniture so that would expect to be taking

villanova · 18/10/2025 19:21

Can you ask the sellers where they go the fixtures, buy replacements for them & ask them to leave the originals? That way it saves you installing new ones, and they get to take the ones they like with them?

DeftWasp · 18/10/2025 19:20

TableTopTree · 18/10/2025 19:13

YANBU - they are fixtures, not fittings.

The rule is, if you turned the house upside down, anything that wouldn't move is a fixture, and therefore is part of the house.

I'd be negotiating a discount if I were you - cheeky fuckers.

Light fittings are just that, classed as fittings, it's what they are called.

OooPourUsACupLove · 18/10/2025 19:20

Winter2020 · 18/10/2025 19:07

So a house with cheap radiators, holes in the walls and gaps in the decoration is “the same” as a house with expensive ones and no decorative problems. How can that be?

No.

The buyer assumed, based on the viewings, that they were buying a house with expensive radiators and no decorative problems. That is what they believed when they made their offer.

The seller actually plans to sell them a house with cheap radiators, holes in the walls and gaps in the decoration.

No one is wrong here. The seller simply has information that the buyer did not have when they offered.

That is why there is a period for the buyer to gather as much information as possible between offer and exchange, so that as many of the buyer's assumptions as possible can be checked before the price and sale are finalised.

Noseynebs951 · 18/10/2025 19:20

As someone who’s just moved house most of this is normal to take, the radiators though does seem strange. However if they replaced them technically I don’t think they have done anything wrong legally? I asked my buyers if they wanted any of our lights/mirrors (bathroom only for mirrors) or bathroom cabinets but they would have had to pay extra for this as this is our furniture not a fixture. It wouldn’t have crossed my mind to take the brand new radiators with me lol

Livelovebehappy · 18/10/2025 19:18

Taking radiators seems bizarre tbh. But the other stuff i might have hoped they'd leave them, but its not a given. I remember when we bought ours that on moving day we found the sellers had taken all the light bulbs. Every single one. It was late afternoon in winter and we had to pop to tescos to buy light bulbs before we could move our furniture in!

DeftWasp · 18/10/2025 19:17

perfectpotato · 18/10/2025 17:25

Because they are fixtures - who takes radiators with them?

I'm an electrician, light fittings, always has been very normal to take them (they must be replaced with a working, safe, fitting or a blank plate if the room has many fittings, though.

Radiators, never heard of that - I would focus on that as a point of negotiation.

Roselily123 · 18/10/2025 19:15

perfectpotato · 18/10/2025 17:25

Because they are fixtures - who takes radiators with them?

Agree
Ridicules.
But Unfortunately some people ( petty ) take all the light fittings , curtains poles and toilet rolls.
We’ve never had this , or done this.
(we always clean throughly out , retouch any walls that pictures have marked, leave all fixtures and fittings (which we tick on the firm) light bulbs , toilet rolls, bottle of wine and a welcome to your new home card).
I’d be questioning the radiators bit.

SpaceRaccoon · 18/10/2025 19:14

ofcoursethatsnormal · 18/10/2025 19:04

I’d ask the date that the radiators are being replaced and say you want to inspect the standard of the work prior to moving any further along with the process.

This is an excellent point.

Notsandwiches · 18/10/2025 19:14

Definitely not normal to take radiators. Id definitely challenge that. What does the estate agents particulars say about the other things?

TableTopTree · 18/10/2025 19:13

YANBU - they are fixtures, not fittings.

The rule is, if you turned the house upside down, anything that wouldn't move is a fixture, and therefore is part of the house.

I'd be negotiating a discount if I were you - cheeky fuckers.

freakingscared · 18/10/2025 19:13

Was this mentioned to you ? The radiators are fixed items and if they change them now after you make a offer I would expect to be compensated for it .

MikeRafone · 18/10/2025 19:11

Why not just roll up the carpets and take them too?

back in the 1980s/1990s that was very common, or the vendor would offer to purchase the carpets

Lollipop2025 · 18/10/2025 19:08

Im a petty person and would just pull out.
God knows what you would walk into on completion day if they are planning on taking the radiators! Who even does that!

Winter2020 · 18/10/2025 19:07

LillyPJ · 18/10/2025 18:57

They aren't altering what is sold though. They are selling the house and telling the buyers which fixtures and fittings they are taking, which is their right. But yes, the buyers are free to pull out any time until exchange of contracts.

So a house with cheap radiators, holes in the walls and gaps in the decoration is “the same” as a house with expensive ones and no decorative problems. How can that be?